Re: Revisiting MSSQL and Azure SQL Support in Django

2022-04-01 Thread Florian Apolloner
Hi Waren, On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 6:30:06 PM UTC+2 vwa...@gmail.com wrote: > We'd love to hear thoughts and feedback around the possibility of moving > forward with a DEP enhancement proposal, with a commitment from Microsoft > to providing continued dedicated support for the 1st party

Re: Revisiting MSSQL and Azure SQL Support in Django

2022-04-01 Thread Carlton Gibson
> Then there is also the question on how to ensure continued commitment from Microsoft -- what happens when Microsoft (or the current PM/PO or whatever) looses interest? IMO. This is the biggest one. What I'd expect to see here is MS taking up a long-term corporate sponsorship of the DSF,

Re: Revisiting MSSQL and Azure SQL Support in Django

2022-04-01 Thread Salman Mohammadi
Hi, IMO, Django is there to create value for *its* users. I'm not aware how MS Team reached this conclusion that merging their incomplete package into Django core creates more value for Django users than when it is a third-party package. Would you please tell me how? I have access to only two

RE: Revisiting MSSQL and Azure SQL Support in Django

2022-04-01 Thread Matthew Pava
I agree with Tim’s sentiment here. Had a solid SQL Server backend been available 7 or 8 years ago, I would probably have used that due to the requirements from my supervisor. I had to convince him that PostgreSQL would be just as good. Based on what I read on the Git page, though, the backend

Re: Revisiting MSSQL and Azure SQL Support in Django

2022-04-01 Thread Tim Allen
Full disclosure: I've helped maintain SQL Server Django engine packages in the past, and was involved in getting the project started for the official Microsoft Django engine package. First, thanks to Warren and the folks from Microsoft for creating this backend. There are a fair amount of

Re: Revisiting MSSQL and Azure SQL Support in Django

2022-04-01 Thread Warren Chu
Hi All, Thanks for the feedback thus far - this is going to help inform my ongoing discussions within Microsoft and I feel like we are getting to the heart of pros/cons/concerns around MSSQL + Django. I appreciate there are diverse stances on this subject, and feel like this conversation is a