Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-05-01 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi Keith, 2015-04-29 19:09 GMT+02:00 Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net: Greetings All; Just checked the archives and it is just shy of 2.5 years since this list was started and what do we have to show for it? Basically nothing. There are pieces and sections of guides in various

Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-04-30 Thread Guy Waterval
Hello Dave, Hi all, 2015-04-30 9:19 GMT+02:00 Dave davepo...@gmail.com: Is it completely unrealistic to ask O'Reilly if they might publish a newer version of their book on OpenOffice? The principal issue is to having something under the Apache License and reusable by the AOO project. As the

Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-04-30 Thread Dave
Is it completely unrealistic to ask O'Reilly if they might publish a newer version of their book on OpenOffice? On 30 April 2015 at 07:27, jonathon toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: On 30/04/15 02:36, Keith N. McKenna wrote: about the current effort to do documentation for version 4 by the

Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-04-30 Thread Dave
Hi all can someone briefly explain the (dis)advantages of working with odf-authors? how far are they with their documentation? On 30 April 2015 at 17:29, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Jonathon, jonathon schrieb: Let's rephrase the question. Do you understand why

Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-04-30 Thread De Angela Jackson
Throwing in another 2 cents (I'm up to 4!): Why not try to get an objective outside opinion? http://idratherbewriting.com/ --pretty good blog from a technical writer who wasn't always a technical writer. He might be able to look at the whole situation and maybe give some advice and direction

Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-04-30 Thread jonathon
On 30/04/15 15:29, Regina Henschel wrote: And you cannot blame the people, who write for LibreOffice. There are so few persons working on LibreOffice documentation, that they cannot follow the changes in LibreOffice soon. I'll grant that ODFAuthors doesn't have many people. Regardless, that

Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-04-30 Thread Keith N. McKenna
jonathon wrote: On 30/04/15 15:29, Regina Henschel wrote: And you cannot blame the people, who write for LibreOffice. There are so few persons working on LibreOffice documentation, that they cannot follow the changes in LibreOffice soon. I'll grant that ODFAuthors doesn't have many

Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-04-30 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Jonathon, jonathon schrieb: Let's rephrase the question. Do you understand why ODFAuthor's is not creating documentation for specifically for Apache OpenOffice? ODF Authors is only the working environment. The website starts with This is a development site for LibreOffice and Apache

Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-04-29 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Alexandro I agree and would like to propose a roadmap that people can follow (hands off) and they can continue ongoing work. emphasizing that if they want to contribute, they need to self-taught and self-do without waiting for approval. We just dont have enough

Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-04-29 Thread Keith N. McKenna
jonathon wrote: On 29/04/15 17:09, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Jonathon; We have a tracking document that is supposed to be used so all members of the team know where things are and what is needed but it rarely gets used. I'd suggest the tracking document is rarely used, because nobody is

Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-04-29 Thread De Angela Jackson
Hi. Just adding my two cents: I never knew that you guys had a tracking document. So, maybe it doesn't get used because no one knows it's there? I like Rania's idea of a spreadsheet--something up front where it's easily found, and everyone can see what's going on. I had noticed too that there

Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-04-29 Thread Keith N. McKenna
De Angela Jackson wrote: Hi. Just adding my two cents: I never knew that you guys had a tracking document. So, maybe it doesn't get used because no one knows it's there? If you didn't realize that it was there I apologize. It is referenced in the main index of the user guide with a link to

Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-04-29 Thread Keith N. McKenna
jonathon wrote: On 29/04/15 19:58, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Work has been on certain pieces of the documentation but the status document has never been updated, Other than some documentation on the wiki, what has been produced within the last two years, that is not currently listed?

Re: Where are we with the documentation?

2015-04-29 Thread jonathon
On 30/04/15 02:36, Keith N. McKenna wrote: about the current effort to do documentation for version 4 by the project under the Apache license. What is your proposal to prevent/minimize the odds of a repeat of why ODFAuthors no longer is providing documentation for Apache OpenOffice? jonathon