Re: [DQSD-Users] Addons
Hi guys, I wonder if addons are simply searches that require additional files, beyond the .xml spec? It seems so, looking at the existing ones. Other than that, I don't see how being an addon would allow greater reach than a search, except perhaps by convention. I think that's it, anyway: an addon is a search with additional stuff, be it COM components (timesync), a group of related searches (genealogy), web service wrappers (googlespell), that won't fit in a single xml file. Thanks for the usage statistics :) - Kim On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 20:49, Steve Babineau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kim. I'm not well-versed yet in DSDQ, but as far as I'm aware, addons allow you to get to areas on your system that searches do not. I'm guessing that the iptools addon could be re-written as a search, but I didn't (don't) know any better. :) -Steve. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Kim Gräsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, I noticed from the e-mail archives that we discussed this back in April. It had totally slipped my mind... How does an addon differ from a search? Thanks, - Kim On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 15:54, Steve Babineau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That one comes from me I think :) I use it as well... -Steve. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Kim Gräsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bill, On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 14:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only have ShowIP (ShowIP Ext) installed in /addons for the latest release of DQSD. It is working, and I find useful on that odd occasion when you just need to know your external IP. Ho hum, I wonder where that one comes from... :) Oh well, as long as it works. - Kim - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 -- --Steve. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 -- --Steve. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Addons
I think that's probably pretty close to being accurate. In fact, I bet I could rewrite iptools as a search to keep in line with DQSD convention. iptools doesn't use anything special, really. When I made it I didn't know any better *shrug*, but I think the terminology is a little confusing. iptools isn't a search, really, it's an add-on to a product that allows you to search websites. Pedantic, I know, but that's what confused me at first and why I headed down the path of an add-on. :) Maybe the docs could be changed a little to describe the differences a bit better? I'd be happy to write a tutorial on how to write a search, and then extend it to show how you do not, in fact, need to search anything with a search add-on ;) -Steve. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Kim Gräsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I wonder if addons are simply searches that require additional files, beyond the .xml spec? It seems so, looking at the existing ones. Other than that, I don't see how being an addon would allow greater reach than a search, except perhaps by convention. I think that's it, anyway: an addon is a search with additional stuff, be it COM components (timesync), a group of related searches (genealogy), web service wrappers (googlespell), that won't fit in a single xml file. Thanks for the usage statistics :) - Kim On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 20:49, Steve Babineau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kim. I'm not well-versed yet in DSDQ, but as far as I'm aware, addons allow you to get to areas on your system that searches do not. I'm guessing that the iptools addon could be re-written as a search, but I didn't (don't) know any better. :) -Steve. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Kim Gräsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, I noticed from the e-mail archives that we discussed this back in April. It had totally slipped my mind... How does an addon differ from a search? Thanks, - Kim On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 15:54, Steve Babineau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That one comes from me I think :) I use it as well... -Steve. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Kim Gräsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bill, On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 14:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only have ShowIP (ShowIP Ext) installed in /addons for the latest release of DQSD. It is working, and I find useful on that odd occasion when you just need to know your external IP. Ho hum, I wonder where that one comes from... :) Oh well, as long as it works. - Kim - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 -- --Steve. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 -- --Steve. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 -
Re: [DQSD-Users] Addons
Quoting Steve Babineau [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I made it I didn't know any better *shrug*, but I think the terminology is a little confusing. iptools isn't a search, really, it's an add-on to a product that allows you to search websites. Pedantic, I know, but that's what confused me at first and why I headed down the path of an add-on. :) I agree with Steve that the terminology can be a little confusing. An awful lot of the 'searches' I use with dqsd are not searches at all but website logins. Tom. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Addons
Hi Kim Gräsman, On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:04:43 +0200, you [Kim Gräsman] wrote: }Is anybody using the DQSD addons [1], and do they still work? } }I've never really gotten my head around them... I only have ShowIP (ShowIP Ext) installed in /addons for the latest release of DQSD. It is working, and I find useful on that odd occasion when you just need to know your external IP. -- Bill - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Addons
Hi Bill, On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 14:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only have ShowIP (ShowIP Ext) installed in /addons for the latest release of DQSD. It is working, and I find useful on that odd occasion when you just need to know your external IP. Ho hum, I wonder where that one comes from... :) Oh well, as long as it works. - Kim - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Addons
That one comes from me I think :) I use it as well... -Steve. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Kim Gräsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bill, On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 14:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only have ShowIP (ShowIP Ext) installed in /addons for the latest release of DQSD. It is working, and I find useful on that odd occasion when you just need to know your external IP. Ho hum, I wonder where that one comes from... :) Oh well, as long as it works. - Kim - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 -- --Steve. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Addons
Hi Steve, I noticed from the e-mail archives that we discussed this back in April. It had totally slipped my mind... How does an addon differ from a search? Thanks, - Kim On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 15:54, Steve Babineau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That one comes from me I think :) I use it as well... -Steve. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Kim Gräsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bill, On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 14:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only have ShowIP (ShowIP Ext) installed in /addons for the latest release of DQSD. It is working, and I find useful on that odd occasion when you just need to know your external IP. Ho hum, I wonder where that one comes from... :) Oh well, as long as it works. - Kim - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 -- --Steve. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Addons
I have used most of the add-ons, and have the (3rd party) iptools addon installed now, but have given up on most of the others over time. The functionality exposed by addons is almost always available directly as a search, so I use that method now - writing a replacement for it if I have to. I do think we should provide hooks for searches so they can chain themselves in the auto- parsing featureset. It would make it a lot easier to integrate things that have a consistent style and form, and still be able to use DQSD in those situations where one has disabled the search that is hard-coded into the auto- functionality now. And, of course, I still think we should consider migrating to an xml storage format so we can have a user-interface for building and maintaining settings. The chrome idea is a good one, and I think it would be quite useful for the novice market. You know, I don't know how people function without DQSD. Seriously. I have a client that uninstalled it over the weekend and called me up at 3am because her calendar was gone. It was one of those next time call me first moments, 'cause she deleted the user settings, too, which included a couple searches I created just for her to manager her sites. Sigh. I really can't imagine having to manually do all the stuff DQSD does for me. -Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Gräsman Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:05 AM To: DQSD users mailing list Subject: [DQSD-Users] Addons Hi people, Is anybody using the DQSD addons [1], and do they still work? I've never really gotten my head around them... Thanks, - Kim [1] bookmarks, dictionarypop, genealogy, googlespell, timesync -- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Addons
Hi Kim. I'm not well-versed yet in DSDQ, but as far as I'm aware, addons allow you to get to areas on your system that searches do not. I'm guessing that the iptools addon could be re-written as a search, but I didn't (don't) know any better. :) -Steve. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Kim Gräsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, I noticed from the e-mail archives that we discussed this back in April. It had totally slipped my mind... How does an addon differ from a search? Thanks, - Kim On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 15:54, Steve Babineau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That one comes from me I think :) I use it as well... -Steve. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Kim Gräsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bill, On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 14:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only have ShowIP (ShowIP Ext) installed in /addons for the latest release of DQSD. It is working, and I find useful on that odd occasion when you just need to know your external IP. Ho hum, I wonder where that one comes from... :) Oh well, as long as it works. - Kim - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 -- --Steve. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 -- --Steve. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
