Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-12 Thread Walker, David
[mw...@iupui.edu] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 8:15 AM To: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 11:04:51AM -0700, Walker, David wrote: [quoting Mark Diggory, I believe] So, to be clear, the ability to construct nested divisions

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-12 Thread Tim Donohue
From: Mark H. Wood [mw...@iupui.edu] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 8:15 AM To: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 11:04:51AM -0700, Walker, David wrote: [quoting Mark Diggory, I believe] So

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-12 Thread Walker, David
://xerxes.calstate.edu From: Tim Donohue [tdono...@duraspace.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:52 AM To: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Hi all, Very interesting discussion. I think there really are two layers

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-12 Thread Tim Donohue
On 10/12/2010 10:50 AM, Walker, David wrote: This is a very reasonable proposal, Tim. I feel compelled to put my development time where my mouth is -- and at least get something started. Although we need a cooler name than QuickStart theme. ;-) Fine by me -- that's just a codename :)

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-12 Thread Peter Dietz
Library Web Services Manager California State University http://xerxes.calstate.edu From: Tim Donohue [tdono...@duraspace.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:52 AM To: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Hi

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-11 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 11:04:51AM -0700, Walker, David wrote: [quoting Mark Diggory, I believe] So, to be clear, the ability to construct nested divisions, lists, options, meta sections is quite powerful for getting the structure of the content pushed into the presentation layer. I

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-11 Thread TAYLOR Robin
of Edinburgh Tel. 0131 6513808 -Original Message- From: Mark H. Wood [mailto:mw...@iupui.edu] Sent: 11 October 2010 16:15 To: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 11:04:51AM -0700, Walker, David wrote: [quoting Mark

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-10 Thread Graham Triggs
On 8 October 2010 19:06, Walker, David dwal...@calstate.edu wrote: breaking up the xslt into separate files for each page actually defeats the design goals of the XMLUI theming tier. I.E. having one file within which all customizations reside to manage your theme. I think there are

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-08 Thread helix84
Hello DSpace developers, I want to add my 2 cents not as a developer who understands DSpace internals (because so far I don't) but as a user who wants to customize the interface for his institution. With all respect to you, I have to agree with the point David brought - Java shouldn't create user

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-08 Thread Mark H. Wood
The problems I've run into in comprehending the Theme layer: o The library files are too big and contain too many ideas. A single river of templates makes it hard for me to grasp their relationships. I'd like to see them broken down into a larger set of smaller, more focused files,

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-08 Thread Walker, David
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question David et al. I have been following this discussion and trying to determine an appropriate point of entry. So lets dive in... In @mire, we are highly invested in the DRI solution at this time, proposing a major change in DRI for DSpace 1.7

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-08 Thread Walker, David
; dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question David et al. I have been following this discussion and trying to determine an appropriate point of entry. So lets dive in... In @mire, we are highly invested in the DRI solution at this time, proposing a major change

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-07 Thread Blanco, Jose
] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:26 AM To: Blanco, Jose Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Hi Jose, Actually, that's exactly my point. There is not a single template that renders the entire middle of the page. It's rendered by several

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-07 Thread Walker, David
...@umich.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 7:20 AM To: Tim Donohue Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question I'm really having a hard time with this. In order to understand the code a bit more, I'm trying to find the line in the themes dir that would put

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-07 Thread Tim Donohue
Hi Dave, Meant to get back to this discussion -- but, as you can see, it has taken me a while to do so :) On 10/1/2010 4:22 PM, Walker, David wrote: If the goal here is to add an input button to the interface -- on the 'confirm item' page, let's say -- I think it would be *significantly*

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-07 Thread Blanco, Jose
But how does it get from that file to the page? -Original Message- From: Walker, David [mailto:dwal...@calstate.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 10:58 AM To: Blanco, Jose; Tim Donohue Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Hi Jose, Text

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-07 Thread Pottinger, Hardy J.
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question But how does it get from that file to the page? -Original Message- From: Walker, David [mailto:dwal...@calstate.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 10:58 AM To: Blanco, Jose; Tim Donohue Cc: dspace-tech

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-07 Thread Blanco, Jose
Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Hi, Jose: would put the message Find Item in the url I'm guessing you actually mean in the title of the page? I believe your answer is somewhere in this file: dspace-src/dspace-xmlui/dspace-xmlui-api/src/main

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-07 Thread Tim Donohue
Donohue [mailto:tdono...@duraspace.org] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 10:00 AM To: Walker, David Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Hi Dave, Meant to get back to this discussion -- but, as you can see, it has taken me a while to do so :) On 10

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-07 Thread Walker, David
From: Tim Donohue [tdono...@duraspace.org] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 7:59 AM To: Walker, David Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Hi Dave, Meant to get back to this discussion -- but, as you can see, it has taken

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-07 Thread Mark H. Wood
Well, one thing which occurs to me is that dri:field type='button'/ should instead be something like dri:action/ and let the Theme figure out whether it wants to lay out a button (or anything else) which links to the action. These button fields are really just abstract handles for things the user

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-07 Thread Walker, David
From: Mark H. Wood [mw...@iupui.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 10:40 AM To: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Well, one thing which occurs to me is that dri:field type='button'/ should instead be something like dri:action

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-07 Thread Mark Diggory
-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Well, one thing which occurs to me is that dri:field type='button'/ should instead be something like dri:action/ and let the Theme figure out whether it wants to lay out a button (or anything else) which links to the action

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-01 Thread Mark H. Wood
Picky point: the Theme stage does not produce HTML; it produces XHTML. So we really are transforming one XML dialect to another. It's just that the output dialect has (by design) the nice property that it has an agreed-upon meaning to web browsers and can be rendered in a standardized way as

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-01 Thread Walker, David
== David Walker Library Web Services Manager California State University http://xerxes.calstate.edu From: Mark H. Wood [mw...@iupui.edu] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 7:45 AM To: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Picky

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-01 Thread Tim Donohue
Hi Dave all, First off sorry for the semi-long email. On 9/30/2010 4:56 PM, Walker, David wrote: So, wrapping up this long-winded criticism -- you did say this was okay right, Tim? ;-) -- I don't think it would actually take much to improve Manakin. Yes. Perfectly OK. I actually got a

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-01 Thread Hilton Gibson
Hi All For those interested here is a link to our theme files. See: http://staff.lib.sun.ac.za/~hgibson/files/SCHOLAR.tar.gz These are from the webapp modules folder. All are welcome to use it. We did a mod to remove the login and search on the front page. See:

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-10-01 Thread Walker, David
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Hi Dave all, First off sorry for the semi-long email. On 9/30/2010 4:56 PM, Walker, David wrote: So, wrapping up this long-winded criticism -- you did say this was okay right, Tim? ;-) -- I don't think it would actually take much

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-09-30 Thread Blanco, Jose
that renders the stuff in the middle. -Jose From: Tim Donohue [tdono...@duraspace.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 5:37 PM To: Blanco, Jose Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Jose, I'm not sure I fully

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-09-30 Thread Tim Donohue
: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 5:37 PM To: Blanco, Jose Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Jose, I'm not sure I fully understand the question? Manakin works much differently than JSPUI -- so there is never really a one template to one page

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-09-30 Thread Walker, David
://xerxes.calstate.edu From: Tim Donohue [tdono...@duraspace.org] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:25 AM To: Blanco, Jose Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Hi Jose, Actually, that's exactly my point

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-09-30 Thread Tim Donohue
From: Tim Donohue [tdono...@duraspace.org] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:25 AM To: Blanco, Jose Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Hi Jose, Actually, that's exactly my point. There is not a single

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-09-30 Thread Sands Alden Fish
http://xerxes.calstate.edu From: Tim Donohue [tdono...@duraspace.org] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:25 AM To: Blanco, Jose Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Hi

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-09-30 Thread Walker, David
...@mit.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:42 PM To: Tim Donohue Cc: Walker, David; dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net; Blanco, Jose Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question I think one of the real challenges people run into with Manakin's templating is that there is no direct corollary

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-09-30 Thread Walker, David
Services Manager California State University http://xerxes.calstate.edu From: Walker, David Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:42 PM To: Tim Donohue Cc: Blanco, Jose; dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Dspace-tech] manikin question The root

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-09-30 Thread Walker, David
, September 30, 2010 12:28 PM To: Walker, David Cc: Blanco, Jose; dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question Hi Dave, Feedback (whether positive or critical) is always welcome! Though, obviously, it is even more helpful if we can better understand what is difficult

[Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-09-29 Thread Blanco, Jose
I'm trying to get a better understanding of Manakin, and I've made a change in the aspect ConfirmItemForm.java And would like now to experiment with the theme that handles the display of DRIs coming from this aspect, but I can't find the template that is responsible for displaying the page

Re: [Dspace-tech] manikin question

2010-09-29 Thread Tim Donohue
Jose, I'm not sure I fully understand the question? Manakin works much differently than JSPUI -- so there is never really a one template to one page relationship. XSL Templates (in a theme) are usually used across many different pages in the system. Also, obviously many templates are used to