Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
Thanks for all the help and suggestions. I could not find a K7ACZ.~XL or DX4WIN.BAK file. I think this is because I opened DX4WIN right away again in a panic to see if those Q's were there or not. I should have taken a minute and looked for these files first. I think when I reopened the program I wrote over or canceled any DX4WIN.BAK or ~XL file that might have been saved. I do know from experience if the PC crashes and I reopen DX4WIN after a PC crash I will get a message telling me the program quit unexpectedly and a backup file had been created and I should possibly use this file. That has always been correct, Q's I would have lost when the PC crashed were saved in this backup file and I rename it to my DXL file and all is well. However, when closing DX4WIN and I got the message that I was in DEMO mode and my Q's would not be saved I didn't think about looking for a backup file if one was created. Some have suggested if you double or triple click the icon to open the program that might cause it to go to the demo mode. I tried that and sure enough after several attempts it did open in DEMO mode once. The lesson learned is that when I open D4W I look at the top of the main window and be sure it says the correct version number, my name and call. And if I work someone I really need do a ALT S to write that Q into the DXL file right away. ___ Alan Zack Amateur Radio Station K7ACZ Subject: Re: DX4WIN in DEMO mode You might have a backup file - check your dx4w707 directory for a .DXB or .~XB file, see if they are later than your log. You will have to copy the files to your SAVE directory and give them a .DXL extension. ALSO: Have you checked your K7ACZ.~XL and K7ACZ backup files? I think it's in the Backup subfolder in the DX4WIN folder. It may be named DX4WIN.BAK or something similar. The K7ACZ.~XL file will be in your DX4WIN SAVE folder. You might try each of those, to see if the missing Q's are in one or both of them. __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
Hi Mel, I cannot find your original email so quickly, where you suggested a few more packet priorities. One was to give a high priority to spots for a new country that you have worked but none of the contacts have been confirmed. There is such an option already: File Preferences | Packet1 | Alert unconfirmed country. Also looking into the journal file. I'm still looking for some OS calls that make sure the file is actually written to disk, and not staying in the memory cache too long. Anyone knows? --Paul, KK4HD -- ~~~ DX4WIN logging software Paul van der Eijk, KK4HD BrookHill Data Systems LLC http://www.dx4win.com __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
Hi Dick and others, I can confirm this behavior, It´s not a dx4win problem for sure but what we do, sometimes computers can be Full loaded and don´t start immediately what we double clicked(can be changed to 1 click also) if we do it again same problem will occure in dx4win -result- DEMO. I use Alt+S a lot and certainly after a new one , if for any reason I was in Demo mode it would Have warned me and could write down or even print out the changes I made to the log. Also I use AutoBackup professional from memeo, This programs auto back up every change I make in a file or log and this without delay on a USB stick. Guy ON4AOI -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] Namens Dick Flanagan Verzonden: zondag 8 maart 2009 1:23 Aan: Paul van der Eijk CC: dx4win list Onderwerp: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode At 04:10 PM 3/7/2009, Paul van der Eijk wrote: Again, looking at the code, the license status is checked when the program starts. Licensing can fail with a bad license file or mismatch in the 'checksum' of the executable. In the code, I do not see a possibility of changing the license back to demo mode. When the program runs, you can delete the license file, and the program does not switch into demo mode. I have my D4W shortcut in my Windows system tray (to the left, next to the Start button). From there it only takes a single click to run the program. However, sometimes I double-click on the icon out of habit and D4W will almost always start-up in Demo mode. There is obviously something going on with the almost simultaneous start-up. When that happens I simply Exit the Demo copy, restart D4W with a single click and all is good. Dick -- Dick Flanagan K7VC d...@k7vc.com __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
To Paul, Guy Dick etc... Like Guy said, I have only experienced the DEMO mode when I have double clicked on the desktop item; on a slow PC. for those that have seen this problem - ask yourselves - is your PC slow to open up ? Actually - it's a treble click - once to select desktop item, 2nd to open desktop item; 3rd if it didn't open, do I click again to make sure I tried to open it ? !! It has only happened to me on my old desktop; my shack uses a laptop that is fast. If this is really the cause; could the software start up behaviour be changed Paul ? If someone tried to open a 2nd application, where the first is recognised as a licensed copy with a key, rather than revert to DEMO mode, could you force it to stay in licensed user mode; in this case opening only the 1st application, not the 2nd ? Just an idea 73 Dave G3NKC __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
I don't have a particularly slow computer... but it will start in Demo mode if I double click the icon on the taskbar. Dave Sharred wrote: To Paul, Guy Dick etc... Like Guy said, I have only experienced the DEMO mode when I have double clicked on the desktop item; on a slow PC. for those that have seen this problem - ask yourselves - is your PC slow to open up ? Actually - it's a treble click - once to select desktop item, 2nd to open desktop item; 3rd if it didn't open, do I click again to make sure I tried to open it ? !! It has only happened to me on my old desktop; my shack uses a laptop that is fast. If this is really the cause; could the software start up behaviour be changed Paul ? If someone tried to open a 2nd application, where the first is recognised as a licensed copy with a key, rather than revert to DEMO mode, could you force it to stay in licensed user mode; in this case opening only the 1st application, not the 2nd ? Just an idea 73 Dave G3NKC __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Mel, VE2DC __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
Hi Mel, This is normal, because we shouldn´t double click in the taskbar, I have programs in my taskbar that freeze my PC when I accidently double click on the icon, even with ctrl+alt+del it takes a while to shutdown that program, don´t think this is a better solution. Guy ON4AOI -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] Namens Mel Martin Verzonden: zondag 8 maart 2009 13:41 Aan: Dave Sharred CC: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Onderwerp: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode I don't have a particularly slow computer... but it will start in Demo mode if I double click the icon on the taskbar. Dave Sharred wrote: To Paul, Guy Dick etc... Like Guy said, I have only experienced the DEMO mode when I have double clicked on the desktop item; on a slow PC. for those that have seen this problem - ask yourselves - is your PC slow to open up ? Actually - it's a treble click - once to select desktop item, 2nd to open desktop item; 3rd if it didn't open, do I click again to make sure I tried to open it ? !! It has only happened to me on my old desktop; my shack uses a laptop that is fast. If this is really the cause; could the software start up behaviour be changed Paul ? If someone tried to open a 2nd application, where the first is recognised as a licensed copy with a key, rather than revert to DEMO mode, could you force it to stay in licensed user mode; in this case opening only the 1st application, not the 2nd ? Just an idea 73 Dave G3NKC __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Mel, VE2DC __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:20 AM, ON4AOI on4...@skynet.be wrote: Hi Mel, This is normal, because we shouldn´t double click in the taskbar, I have programs in my taskbar that freeze my PC when I accidently double click on the icon, even with ctrl+alt+del it takes a while to shutdown that program, don´t think this is a better solution. There's a program that you can use to work around this - you put it in your taskbar instead of the direct dx4win shortcut, and it keeps you from having more than one instance of the program started. It's called RunOnlyOne, and you can find it at http://huddledmasses.org/run-only-one-copy-of-an-application/ Paul, this is something you can do at startup - look to see if there's another copy of DX4WIN running, and if so, pass focus to the running copy then quit. 73, -Rick -- Rick Murphy, CISSP-ISSAP, K1MU/4, Annandale VA USA __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
Patient: I know I'm not supposed to do this, but when I do it hurts. Doctor: wait for it... wait for it... DON'T DO THAT! One of life's hard-earned home remedies. Dick -- Dick Flanagan K7VC d...@k7vc.com __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
We have drifted from the original thread. The fact that you can screw up DX4Win by starting two instances almost simultaneously is perhaps an interesting bit of trivia... and the RunOnlyOne utility is interesting... I never heard of it before... but has little to do with the problem that some have had after the program has been running for some time and suddenly changes to DEMO mode disabling the saving any new or changed data. Rick Murphy wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:20 AM, ON4AOI on4...@skynet.be wrote: Hi Mel, This is normal, because we shouldn´t double click in the taskbar, I have programs in my taskbar that freeze my PC when I accidently double click on the icon, even with ctrl+alt+del it takes a while to shutdown that program, don´t think this is a better solution. There's a program that you can use to work around this - you put it in your taskbar instead of the direct dx4win shortcut, and it keeps you from having more than one instance of the program started. It's called RunOnlyOne, and you can find it at http://huddledmasses.org/run-only-one-copy-of-an-application/ Paul, this is something you can do at startup - look to see if there's another copy of DX4WIN running, and if so, pass focus to the running copy then quit. 73, -Rick -- Mel, VE2DC __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
LOL... exactly! Dick Flanagan wrote: Patient: I know I'm not supposed to do this, but when I do it hurts. Doctor: wait for it... wait for it... DON'T DO THAT! One of life's hard-earned home remedies. Dick -- Dick Flanagan K7VC d...@k7vc.com -- Mel, VE2DC __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
Hi Rick, That is what I do already inside the code to avoid a second copy of DX4WIN running. I also open the license file in shared mode, but I don't think the code will ever reach that point. --Paul, KK4HD Rick Murphy wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:20 AM, ON4AOI on4...@skynet.be wrote: Hi Mel, This is normal, because we shouldn´t double click in the taskbar, I have programs in my taskbar that freeze my PC when I accidently double click on the icon, even with ctrl+alt+del it takes a while to shutdown that program, don´t think this is a better solution. There's a program that you can use to work around this - you put it in your taskbar instead of the direct dx4win shortcut, and it keeps you from having more than one instance of the program started. It's called RunOnlyOne, and you can find it at http://huddledmasses.org/run-only-one-copy-of-an-application/ Paul, this is something you can do at startup - look to see if there's another copy of DX4WIN running, and if so, pass focus to the running copy then quit. 73, -Rick No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release Date: 03/07/09 18:43:00 __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Paul van der Eijk pvandere...@cox.net wrote: Hi Rick, That is what I do already inside the code to avoid a second copy of DX4WIN running. Now that I've actually tried it (7.07.02) when I try to start up a second copy it just transfers focus to the currently running copy. Sorry for the incorrect assumption. I also open the license file in shared mode, but I don't think the code will ever reach that point. The only way I've ever seen Demo mode entered was at startup when the starting directory for DX4WIN was wrong. Are people actually seeing it go into Demo mode, or is it just refusing to save the log file? I ask this because there's a feature in Windows Vista that marks files on removable media (like thumb drives, or USB hard drives) read-only after they've been opened for a while. My XYL sees this: open a word document on the thumb drive, edit for a while, then try to close it. You get a permission error, and the original document is GONE. Microsoft, rather than fixing this, blames the victim and says that the files must be copied to the hard drive before being edited: http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.word.docmanagementtid=f7a01f32-8177-47b8-93de-9bd66ca62f29cat=en-us-officelang=encr=USsloc=en-usm=1p=1 If you're keeping your log on anything but your C drive, and you're running Vista, this may be what's happening. If not, never mind. :-) 73, -Rick -- Rick Murphy, CISSP-ISSAP, K1MU/4, Annandale VA USA __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
When Paul told you it was impossible he was probably referring to the logic of the program with which he is very familiar. However there are bugs in code that can make it do something totally unexpected. Examples are buffer overruns, dangling pointers etc. Depending on the development language used some can be ferociously hard to track down. I do agree with you that Paul should do something to mitigate this bug... and I think the best way is to write a transaction journal file... writing the whole log requires too much IO bandwidth... but just writing an ADIF journal file, especially if it could be written to removable media, would mean that any kind of failure, hardware or software, including the occasional and inevitable bug, would not result in the loss of data and would be very easy to recover from as you could just import the missing transactions. I really really think you should do this Paul. Please Mel, VE2DC Jack Shirley wrote: Yes This same thing happened to me. Almost exactly as you describe. ( I will leave out the *four letter explicitives*.) I described this to PAUL at Dayton and he told me this was impossible. For me it happened while N8S was on and I lost a lot of contacts. I had to go back and dupe most of them.As you have found out, after you try to close the program and it tells you it can't be saved, you really fd. You can even say no and get back into the program to hand write the last contacts. I started backing up all my important QSOs on paper log. I suggested they get rid of the Demo mode and make a version maybe excludes certain features. But not being able to save...?? There is a lot of free logging programs and have better support and features than this one, so why the demo mode. The most value in this program is in the updates which are done by AD1C and that's why I stay with the software. If the updates to the databases were done with the enthusiasm of Paul, this would be go to the same place as DX Desktop. So you might have someone in your computer that you don't know about. I suggest you run a offsite program by microtrend and run house call and see if it finds anything major. Start it at night when you are ready to go to bed as it take a long time for it to scan everything. The other bugs I think the program currently has and Paul won't address: Random going into: ignore Mode in real time Spots/sort by frequency/stupid program toggles between the lowest freq and current freq. Very annoying. Older versions of DX4WIN didn't behave this poorly. And the good old switching to Demo mode without a reason. 73 and good luck. N8DX On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Alan Zack k7...@cox.net wrote: Yesterday I had a very strange thing occur with DX4WIN. I have been a registered user for many years. Currently using ver 7.07.02. I have NEVER seen this happen before. I opened DX4WIN using the same shortcut as always. It appeared to open normally. I saw ZL7T spotted on 17m CW on the DXCluster (I did not have PACKET open on DX4WIN, instead I was using the separate VE3SUN DX Monitor program for my spotting). I did an F8 search for ZL7 to see if I needed them on 17m CW. I did, so I worked them, and all seemed OK. I had received some QSL cards in the mail so I did F8 searches for those calls and marked them as confirmed. Over the next few hours I worked C6/W6DXC on 20m SSB, C56YK on RTTY, and H40FN on 17m CW. Again, before working H40FN I did a F8 search to see if I needed H40 on 17m CW. All my F8 searches went normally and when I logged each new contact I searched for their QSL info and put the info and address in the QSL MGR window. Everything seemed to be working FB. My complete log was open and seemed to be working normally. But then, when I was ready to shut down I did an ALT+S to save the changes. OK. I then clicked on the uppermost right corner X to close the program. When I did that a window opened saying C:\PROGRAM FILES\DX4WIN707\SAVE\K7ACZ.DXL WAS MODIFIED, SAVE LOG TO DISK? I clicked on YES. Another window opened saying something to the effect that changes could not be saved in DEMO mode. I looked at the top of the main menu. It read something to the effect DX4WIN DEMO MODE. It should have read DX4WIN 7.07.2 K7ACZ, etc. At this point I knew I was in trouble. I needed to close the window that said: C:\PROGRAM FILES\DX4WIN707\SAVE\K7ACZ.DXL WAS MODIFIED, SAVE LOG TO DISK? so I could write down on a pad the calls, times, modes, etc, of the contacts I had made during the day so I could reenter them when I could open the program back to normal logging again. So I hit the CANCEL option thinking that would cancel the closing of the program. But it closed anyway causing me to lose all the contact s I had made during the day including a new mode (RTTY) for C56YK and a new band/mode (18m CW) for ZL7T and H40FN. I can't remember when during the 6 or so hours DX4WIN was open I
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
Jack, Looking around in my code, the only 'unexpected' way to get the program to ignore the mode from the radio is to double-click in the PSK32 or MMTTY Window. The assumption is that you double-click a callsign, and that you want to add a QSO with that callsign. As many radios do not indicate the mode PSK31 or RTTY, the program sets the mode to the mode of the window the double-click came from (PSK31 or RTTY). To have the mode stick, we need to set IgnoreMode, otherwise the next radio poll will set the mode back to the mode obtained from the radio. Again, looking at the code, the license status is checked when the program starts. Licensing can fail with a bad license file or mismatch in the 'checksum' of the executable. In the code, I do not see a possibility of changing the license back to demo mode. When the program runs, you can delete the license file, and the program does not switch into demo mode. When the radio interface gets a bad frequency from the radio, you will see the jumping in the spots window. To me that means there is something 'funny' in the interface you are using. I have heard about interfaces that drop or change a byte so now and than. I don't know what I can do about that, but will give it another look. We all appreciate very much what Jim, AD1C, does for us; no doubt about that! --73, Paul, KK4HD Jack Shirley wrote: Yes This same thing happened to me. Almost exactly as you describe. ( I will leave out the *four letter explicitives*.) I described this to PAUL at Dayton and he told me this was impossible. For me it happened while N8S was on and I lost a lot of contacts. I had to go back and dupe most of them.As you have found out, after you try to close the program and it tells you it can't be saved, you really fd. You can even say no and get back into the program to hand write the last contacts. I started backing up all my important QSOs on paper log. I suggested they get rid of the Demo mode and make a version maybe excludes certain features. But not being able to save...?? There is a lot of free logging programs and have better support and features than this one, so why the demo mode. The most value in this program is in the updates which are done by AD1C and that's why I stay with the software. If the updates to the databases were done with the enthusiasm of Paul, this would be go to the same place as DX Desktop. So you might have someone in your computer that you don't know about. I suggest you run a offsite program by microtrend and run house call and see if it finds anything major. Start it at night when you are ready to go to bed as it take a long time for it to scan everything. The other bugs I think the program currently has and Paul won't address: Random going into: ignore Mode in real time Spots/sort by frequency/stupid program toggles between the lowest freq and current freq. Very annoying. Older versions of DX4WIN didn't behave this poorly. And the good old switching to Demo mode without a reason. 73 and good luck. N8DX On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Alan Zack k7...@cox.net wrote: Yesterday I had a very strange thing occur with DX4WIN. I have been a registered user for many years. Currently using ver 7.07.02. I have NEVER seen this happen before. I opened DX4WIN using the same shortcut as always. It appeared to open normally. I saw ZL7T spotted on 17m CW on the DXCluster (I did not have PACKET open on DX4WIN, instead I was using the separate VE3SUN DX Monitor program for my spotting). I did an F8 search for ZL7 to see if I needed them on 17m CW. I did, so I worked them, and all seemed OK. I had received some QSL cards in the mail so I did F8 searches for those calls and marked them as confirmed. Over the next few hours I worked C6/W6DXC on 20m SSB, C56YK on RTTY, and H40FN on 17m CW. Again, before working H40FN I did a F8 search to see if I needed H40 on 17m CW. All my F8 searches went normally and when I logged each new contact I searched for their QSL info and put the info and address in the QSL MGR window. Everything seemed to be working FB. My complete log was open and seemed to be working normally. But then, when I was ready to shut down I did an ALT+S to save the changes. OK. I then clicked on the uppermost right corner X to close the program. When I did that a window opened saying C:\PROGRAM FILES\DX4WIN707\SAVE\K7ACZ.DXL WAS MODIFIED, SAVE LOG TO DISK? I clicked on YES. Another window opened saying something to the effect that changes could not be saved in DEMO mode. I looked at the top of the main menu. It read something to the effect DX4WIN DEMO MODE. It should have read DX4WIN 7.07.2 K7ACZ, etc. At this point I knew I was in trouble. I needed to close the window that said: C:\PROGRAM FILES\DX4WIN707\SAVE\K7ACZ.DXL WAS MODIFIED, SAVE LOG TO DISK? so I could write down on a pad the calls, times, modes, etc, of the contacts I had made during the day so I could
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
At 04:10 PM 3/7/2009, Paul van der Eijk wrote: Again, looking at the code, the license status is checked when the program starts. Licensing can fail with a bad license file or mismatch in the 'checksum' of the executable. In the code, I do not see a possibility of changing the license back to demo mode. When the program runs, you can delete the license file, and the program does not switch into demo mode. I have my D4W shortcut in my Windows system tray (to the left, next to the Start button). From there it only takes a single click to run the program. However, sometimes I double-click on the icon out of habit and D4W will almost always start-up in Demo mode. There is obviously something going on with the almost simultaneous start-up. When that happens I simply Exit the Demo copy, restart D4W with a single click and all is good. Dick -- Dick Flanagan K7VC d...@k7vc.com __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
This bug has been around a long time... I'm not sure how far back it goes. It happened to me once... I have no idea why and has never happened since (so I can understand why it's hard to track down). However I ALWAYS hit alt-s immediately after working a new one. It's kinda stupid you have to do this... but another overdue item for Paul is a journal file. That can't be hard to accomplish... just write a record to an ADIF text file after each Add Paul... and make it optional if you are concerned about performance in case someone is still running DX4Win off a floppy drive ;-) Alan Zack wrote: Yesterday I had a very strange thing occur with DX4WIN. I have been a registered user for many years. Currently using ver 7.07.02. I have NEVER seen this happen before. I opened DX4WIN using the same shortcut as always. It appeared to open normally. I saw ZL7T spotted on 17m CW on the DXCluster (I did not have PACKET open on DX4WIN, instead I was using the separate VE3SUN DX Monitor program for my spotting). I did an F8 search for ZL7 to see if I needed them on 17m CW. I did, so I worked them, and all seemed OK. I had received some QSL cards in the mail so I did F8 searches for those calls and marked them as confirmed. Over the next few hours I worked C6/W6DXC on 20m SSB, C56YK on RTTY, and H40FN on 17m CW. Again, before working H40FN I did a F8 search to see if I needed H40 on 17m CW. All my F8 searches went normally and when I logged each new contact I searched for their QSL info and put the info and address in the QSL MGR window. Everything seemed to be working FB. My complete log was open and seemed to be working normally. But then, when I was ready to shut down I did an ALT+S to save the changes. OK. I then clicked on the uppermost right corner X to close the program. When I did that a window opened saying C:\PROGRAM FILES\DX4WIN707\SAVE\K7ACZ.DXL WAS MODIFIED, SAVE LOG TO DISK? I clicked on YES. Another window opened saying something to the effect that changes could not be saved in DEMO mode. I looked at the top of the main menu. It read something to the effect DX4WIN DEMO MODE. It should have read DX4WIN 7.07.2 K7ACZ, etc. At this point I knew I was in trouble. I needed to close the window that said: C:\PROGRAM FILES\DX4WIN707\SAVE\K7ACZ.DXL WAS MODIFIED, SAVE LOG TO DISK? so I could write down on a pad the calls, times, modes, etc, of the contacts I had made during the day so I could reenter them when I could open the program back to normal logging again. So I hit the CANCEL option thinking that would cancel the closing of the program. But it closed anyway causing me to lose all the cont act s I had made during the day including a new mode (RTTY) for C56YK and a new band/mode (18m CW) for ZL7T and H40FN. I can't remember when during the 6 or so hours DX4WIN was open I actually made those contacts, all I can do is guess within an hour or so. When I restarted DX4WIN of course those contacts and changes made while in DEMO mode were gone. Is there anyway to retrieve those contacts? Could they be saved someplace I can't think of? How and why did DX4WIN get into the DEMO mode anyway? I can't duplicate it. I don't see how to get it into DEMO mode even if I wanted to. ___ Alan Zack Amateur Radio Station K7ACZ Las Vegas, Nevada, USA Delta Rocket Quality Engineer, The Boeing Company, Retired Aviation Chief Warrant Officer, U.S. Coast Guard, Retired __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Mel, VE2DC __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN in DEMO mode
Yes This same thing happened to me. Almost exactly as you describe. ( I will leave out the *four letter explicitives*.) I described this to PAUL at Dayton and he told me this was impossible. For me it happened while N8S was on and I lost a lot of contacts. I had to go back and dupe most of them.As you have found out, after you try to close the program and it tells you it can't be saved, you really fd. You can even say no and get back into the program to hand write the last contacts. I started backing up all my important QSOs on paper log. I suggested they get rid of the Demo mode and make a version maybe excludes certain features. But not being able to save...?? There is a lot of free logging programs and have better support and features than this one, so why the demo mode. The most value in this program is in the updates which are done by AD1C and that's why I stay with the software. If the updates to the databases were done with the enthusiasm of Paul, this would be go to the same place as DX Desktop. So you might have someone in your computer that you don't know about. I suggest you run a offsite program by microtrend and run house call and see if it finds anything major. Start it at night when you are ready to go to bed as it take a long time for it to scan everything. The other bugs I think the program currently has and Paul won't address: Random going into: ignore Mode in real time Spots/sort by frequency/stupid program toggles between the lowest freq and current freq. Very annoying. Older versions of DX4WIN didn't behave this poorly. And the good old switching to Demo mode without a reason. 73 and good luck. N8DX On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Alan Zack k7...@cox.net wrote: Yesterday I had a very strange thing occur with DX4WIN. I have been a registered user for many years. Currently using ver 7.07.02. I have NEVER seen this happen before. I opened DX4WIN using the same shortcut as always. It appeared to open normally. I saw ZL7T spotted on 17m CW on the DXCluster (I did not have PACKET open on DX4WIN, instead I was using the separate VE3SUN DX Monitor program for my spotting). I did an F8 search for ZL7 to see if I needed them on 17m CW. I did, so I worked them, and all seemed OK. I had received some QSL cards in the mail so I did F8 searches for those calls and marked them as confirmed. Over the next few hours I worked C6/W6DXC on 20m SSB, C56YK on RTTY, and H40FN on 17m CW. Again, before working H40FN I did a F8 search to see if I needed H40 on 17m CW. All my F8 searches went normally and when I logged each new contact I searched for their QSL info and put the info and address in the QSL MGR window. Everything seemed to be working FB. My complete log was open and seemed to be working normally. But then, when I was ready to shut down I did an ALT+S to save the changes. OK. I then clicked on the uppermost right corner X to close the program. When I did that a window opened saying C:\PROGRAM FILES\DX4WIN707\SAVE\K7ACZ.DXL WAS MODIFIED, SAVE LOG TO DISK? I clicked on YES. Another window opened saying something to the effect that changes could not be saved in DEMO mode. I looked at the top of the main menu. It read something to the effect DX4WIN DEMO MODE. It should have read DX4WIN 7.07.2 K7ACZ, etc. At this point I knew I was in trouble. I needed to close the window that said: C:\PROGRAM FILES\DX4WIN707\SAVE\K7ACZ.DXL WAS MODIFIED, SAVE LOG TO DISK? so I could write down on a pad the calls, times, modes, etc, of the contacts I had made during the day so I could reenter them when I could open the program back to normal logging again. So I hit the CANCEL option thinking that would cancel the closing of the program. But it closed anyway causing me to lose all the contact s I had made during the day including a new mode (RTTY) for C56YK and a new band/mode (18m CW) for ZL7T and H40FN. I can't remember when during the 6 or so hours DX4WIN was open I actually made those contacts, all I can do is guess within an hour or so. When I restarted DX4WIN of course those contacts and changes made while in DEMO mode were gone. Is there anyway to retrieve those contacts? Could they be saved someplace I can't think of? How and why did DX4WIN get into the DEMO mode anyway? I can't duplicate it. I don't see how to get it into DEMO mode even if I wanted to. ___ Alan Zack Amateur Radio Station K7ACZ Las Vegas, Nevada, USA Delta Rocket Quality Engineer, The Boeing Company, Retired Aviation Chief Warrant Officer, U.S. Coast Guard, Retired __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
