I was looking at the public balances of E-Gold just before, and there
is a 16 gram account listed as 247287 "Chess for Gold Reward
Chest" 'Paid to he who allows chess4AU'. Does anyone know anything
about this? I did a meta-search but couldn't find anything.
Check out my homepage
Simple. Someone is trying to set you up by buying small amounts for a
while then placing a fraudulent order.
Do you operate OzziGold? I think I tried to buy some E-Gold from you
last year, but you didn't have a bank account or something. Or it may
be a different Kelly (Ned?)
Subject:
Anyone stupid enough to fall for one of those Nigerian scams doesn't
deserve to have that money in the first place (IMO).
On the subject of the 'who's regulating these off-shore unlicensed
casino/MLM schemes?' I can only say that there are a lot of idiots on
the Internet. There's the numerous
Perhaps E-Gold might want to reconsider hosting it's servers in the
US in the light of this raid. All it will take is a US Attorney or
two hopped up on cocaine who decides he wants a big publicity case
with little possible backlash. They can them say (and probably quite
truthfully) that
Ladies and Gentlemen,
For those that have not tried it yet, Pay By Gold allows you to pay
your bills anywhere in world. Its the easiest, and cheaper way to
send a check to your creditors or yourself.
In the coming weeks, you will have the ability to send a wire or
check anywhere in the
Sounds like a shill if you ask me?
Weren't there some people complaining he had swindled them? (May have
been on another list, but the name mentioned was definately Boggs).
Anything like the guy who prints his own postage stamps and uses them
to mail letters? Ones with Saddam Hussein or
Here is a reason I won't use escrow services, from the Ebay
announcements page
http://www2.ebay.com/aw/marketing.shtml#040301145756
*** Concerns Regarding Worldescrow Service***
We have been informed that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
is investigating complaints concerning
I just looked at their page now, and it's there with a claim that
they're re-working their website and anticipate re-opening on 27th of
March. Maybe try them one more time?
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And how come there are so many people from Australia into
egold??! :)
You've obviously never tried to open/operate an Australian bank
account. As well as needing roughly the same ID requirements to get a
passport, the incompetent, rude staff have to be seen to be believed,
and most banks
Is this dubious offer from the Mr. S Kurram Khan (or something
similar, apologies if I misspelt it) on this list, or is it someone
impersonating him?
Love the bit about them not wanting to sign for registered mail as it
is taking too long.
To:
Subject: Unite 1 Update ~ pass it on!!!
If bank fees are high, as you seem to be saying, bank branches
should be profitable if they have custom. Bank branches have been
closed down, are being closed down and will continue to be closed
down because the fees from branch use is less than the costs of
providing the branch services.
If
I had a little trouble finding the legal tender laws when I wrote
the last email on this topic (I was sure I had seen them in the
Reserve Bank of Australia Act but could not find them there, i found
some in another statute). I should do some research on this topic.
The relevant act is I think
That great Australian Eddie Solomon (is he still around? He used to
be a regular fixture on 'The Investigators') used to swear by this
method. His technique, which he claimed made it legal (or at least
very difficult to prosecute you) was to buy a property at auction,
then run around in one
I am writing to e-gold Ltd and to the e-gold list and Western Union
with a complaint and warning about the market maker GITGOLD.COM
If the customer is willing to wire the money, why not get them to
wire it straight to you? Why bother with a MM at all?
Does sound a bit fishy IMO.
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Crook posted
please change your egold password immediately!!!
I have just checked and realised that my account
and that of my family members were cleaned out!
My account was okay just a few minutes back and
when I login again the money is GONE!!!
PLEASE CHANGE YOUR ACCOUNT PASSWORD NOW!! OR GET
Or maybe someone entered their password to your account number (I've
made this mistake occasionally). That doesn't therefore follow that
it was an attempt to hack the password.
#1 Did you lose any funds?
#2 How many times did they try your password? Once = someone made a
mistake. Twice =
I seem to have trouble getting messages through to the e-gold list,
and thus, am sending this directly to you.
Well I'll just send it to the list and see if it posts, shall I?
I debated whether to even respond, but since this statement is so
blatant, felt a short response was in order.
This
I just checked out the e-qold website. After the first login
(obviously I used a false acct and pw, it directs you to the front
page of the real e-gold page. Pretty bloody cunning.
I'm sure if some public minded individual was willing to donate a few
grams of e-gold to a worth-while charity
' or somesuch would help the division of spoils.
Ben Legume
E-Gold Acct #168466
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I note that E-Qold and E-Glox 9the site it directs you to) are
currently dead. I'll speak to my friend tonight about how permanent
it is, hopefully if there are still spams out there using the address
they will fail now.
Donations as always to
E-Gold acct #168466
Ben
Actually, Ben only
Also irrespective of the merits or non merits of 'HYIP' and
'investments' one presumes the people participating are over 21 (or
18 in some states) and in their right minds and not wearing bright
green trousers and a propeller on their heads.
pictures Harry Secombe and the other Goons as
Lil Abner wasn't something I had available in my childhood
regretably.
Moriarty Look Seagoon, here is a photograph of a pound note!
Ned Seagoon What Wealth!
Moriarty Yes, and theres more photographs where that came from!
I mean, short of locking them in a rubber room, what can be done
Steven wrote:
Care to elaborate on that HYIP reference ?
How many have you tried and what were their names.
This is amazing. I cannot decide between (1) this is just bull or
(2) a genuine inability to think.
If it is taken seriously then it explains a lot!
Seriously making such an
Theres also a strong factor of trying to cover up embarrasment. If
you're silly enough to lose some money in a scam, you rarely would
want people to know about it because they'll think (know?) that
you're a fool.
Similarly some of the big leaps of faith after the person believes
they have
A discussion thread on the Ebay chatrooms mentioning a scammer using
e-gold to sell laptops which have failed to materialise:
http://remarq.ebay.com/ebay/transcript.asp?g=discuss%2Eebay%2Etrust%
2Eand%2Esafetytn=98081sh=0288a28ccedad6aaidx=-1
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I sure hope nothing has happened to goldchanger!! I got some e-gold
credited from them about a week ago, with some more due any day now
(I have to wait for the cheques to clear).
Then again, if your customer sent payment in cash, there's always the
danger it could be stolen by post office
If I ran such a company I'd try to take some basic precautions
against
insuring morons in the first place, maybe not an aptitude test per
se, but something that would screen out the bottom-feeders.
Have a sign up page for the insurance scheme where it asks the
potential insuree to enter
Maybe you (and other e-gold lists) should have a section on suspect
or known criminal MMs/scammers? I know it's a bit of a downer, esp.
for people who are thinking about using E-gold, however the benefit
of keeping everyone aware far outweigh the negative.
I mean, if Heap of Gold hadn't put a
Has anyone ever heard the statement 'As thick as two short New
Zealanders'?
Ohio in 1982, which is highly suspicious. The
website is located in
New Zealand, which is another sure sign of fraud.
You are obviously a complete dick for making such idiotic
statements.
Lin Ronald
NEW ZEALAND
Suggestion: Why don't all those who owe Citibank via personal or
business loans or credit cards write or call them and explain that,
as gun owners and shooting enthusiasts, they will be only too happy
to blacklist Citibank and not pay back their loans. Also, ring them
up from a payphone and
I'd be interested in how much of the private Scottish money turned
out to be bogus (either counterfeit, or being issued by the 18th
century equivalent of Romanian scammers)?
It would be great in an ideal world, but given the problems with the
existing fiat currencies, and the suspicions many
Yes, I've done quite well with funbonds over the last year. They're
especially good to stop you gambling all your money away at one, as
they pay you a return every 24 hours for 10 days.
Join the gold casino, if only to compare it to other real-life or
virtual establishments. The other day I
Slavery was well suited to producing wealth (for the owner) in the
ancient world or middle ages, where there really wasn't that big a
distinction between a slave and a serf or a farmer/tradesman. In the
19th century, the capitalists realised that with the labour intensive
jobs done by slaves
I believe it. As I've said before on the list (and many more times
off-list!) Australian banks are the biggest bunch of crooked f*cks in
the country, and that's including the politicans and the lawyers.
Banks here regularly steal customer's funds (sometimes substantial
amounts, sometimes
SHOULD ALL EGOLD RELATED SITES DO THIS?
Certainly not! If people are told quite clearly by both E-Gold and
the site they are joining not to do something as it is unsafe, yet
they do it anyway, on their own heads be it. We are all adults. I
think the exact analogy in the real world is a
Some scam artist just sent me this, asking me to go to his e-gold
website and enter my password etc.
You have been warned!!!
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I think the article is here
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/hoodwink.html
it's the 2nd last paragraph.
Everybody be sure to read (or at least skim) the rest of his web
site. The only thing missing are UFO abductions, black helicopters
and credible sources.
Yes, UFOs and black helicopters
Can someone explain the facts on this case so we can make a
good judgment call. Does someone really know the facts ?
Hear hear. For all I know E-gold's charges are quite justified. Is
Mr. Evans involved in other online currencies at present? Has he made
any statements denying or otherwise
Nice looking site, although most of seems to be uncannily familiar to
Ebay. I like some of the extra categories however (privacy, mail
forwarding services, lock-picks etc).
Unfortunately when I tried to join up it gave me an error message.
And $2.50 US per listing is a bit steep for a site
Certain slapheads on this list seem to be missing the main reason
that MMs will never be able to tell where e-gold originated from. It
is 100% instantly transferrable. If I set up an e-gold account and
swindle an old lady in Ohio while pretending to be a door-to-door
weather-vane salesman, I
Regarding news articles, there is a statement that I always
quote there is no such thing as bad publicity. The origin is
unknown, although Brendan Behan (Irish author d. 1964) has been
quoted as the author. So, the trick now is to turn this article into
a good piece.
I think it was Phineas
OK, the price of funbonds at thegoldcasino has dropped to c. 4 grams
each, which i think is excellent value. I have just bought 4, and if
anyone else is interested now is the time to invest!
If not already a TGCmember, go to
http://www.thegoldcasino.com/win.cgi?9784630
to join. You must
OK, after yesterday's disappointing result (.27) todays funbond
payout is .52 grams per bond. And the price is hard to beat, at a
mere 3.5 grams per bond!
Now is the time for anyone interested to jump aboard! If you're not
already a gold casino member, you can join at this URL
And check my weblog daily!
http://www.geocities.com/gordongriggs/WhyIownaRealdoll.html
Oops, this isn't my page, honest. I have a real girlfriend. Over the
internet. Well, at least I don't have a mannequin for a GF like this
sad, sad individual.
Check my actual weblog daily
OK, the funbonds are now at 0.5569.
So the last 3 days history are:
0.2734 grams per bond
0.5282 grams per bond
0.5569 grams per bond
And the bonds are only 3.75 grams each at present! What a bargain.
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I think some people are missing something as regards the gold bars,
the weight thereof.
These gold bars are similar to security on a loan. While they do
sometimes bail new ones in (or out), this is not their main
intention. If you put these gold bars in a vault in London and the
bank states
It is interesting that both China and Russia are ENCOURAGING their
citizens to buy gold. This is a whacky world when the red commies
are encouraging private ownership of gold but the governments of
the capitalist West are playing smoke and mirror games to KEEP
their citizens from buying
Maybe do what I do (this may not work unless you are logged into
Yahoo):
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Omnipay had to bail them out and sell them to cover the 2 cheques
I've gotten from them in the last week :-)
Well, maybe partly, or maybe they're doing a bit of speculating and
selling when the price is high?
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Thanks David for your comments.
A trust is not a legal entity and the trust assets are owned by the
trustee(s) which obviously is not the role of the account holder.
That is also how I understand it.
The trust, along with the other governance structures of the e-gold
system, protects the
I just noticed that Thegoldcasino has a staggering -70 funbonds
available. Knowing that computer programs sometimes do screwy things
when they get into negatives, I tried to purchase some. Drat, no such
luck.
You've attempted to purchase more bonds then are currently available!
There are
So I think it is very clear that the trust is not an entity that
holds property but a contract (deed) between a settlor and trustee
(s). The assets are owned by the trustee(s). Anyone employed by a
trust is employed by the trustee(s). Any trading done by a trust is
done by the trustee(s).
I was just listening to the latest Off The Hook show and E-gold gets
a quite favourable, but brief, mention. The show (4th of September)
can be streamed or downloaded from
http://www.2600.com/offthehook/2001/0901.html
It's at about the 40 minute mark (it's a 1 hour show).
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Dreadful. Of course, I'd have a lot more sympathy if the US hadn't
spent the last decade destabilising and bombing other countries and
killing civilians and damaging economies. As ye have reaped, so ye
shall sow.
Hopefully some sanity will return by the time this email goes out.
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Yes, and I didn't say that I thought it was justified or warranted.
However that doesn't change the fact that the Americans who have been
merrily bombing other countries as a matter of policy are now very
upset that they have been similarly targeted. And I'm not going to
pretend I'm even the
This is from Yahoo, and i thought it was on-topic sufficiently to
post here.
Get daily updates (barring international crises etc.) at
http://leviathan.weblogs.com
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WTC wreckage guards buried treasure of COMEX gold
By Alden Bentley
NEW YORK,
There are more e-gold auction on ebay, specifically a fine selection
of cds, dvds and videos (with more to come) at
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewListedItemsuserid=northcote-auctionscompleted=0sort=0since=30
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Some might call us unscrupulous, but it isn't true! We have
scruples. Chattel human slavery is absolutely forbidden on our site.
If you are selling people, keep that off our site. But, otherwise,
if you have something to sell, sell it.
Why ever not? As a founding member of The Slavery
The sarcasism of your first paragraph notwithstanding, I am unsure
as to what the last sentence means in relation to the whole. The only
thing forbidden on goldbarter.com is the sale of human begins as
chattel. What transactions, then, are you avoiding on our site?
My sarcasism is renowned.
Yes, wonderful if you have a soft head, and are into MLM scams. No
doubt you will enjoy reading about matrix overflows and downlines and
so forth almost as much as I did.
Next!
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From
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?
xml=/news/2001/11/02/wnyc02.xml
Thieves try to steal gold under rubble
By Philip Delves Broughton in New York
(Filed: 02/11/2001)
EVIDENCE of a daring but failed heist from vaults beneath the
collapsed World Trade Centre was revealed by
According to the Gold Changer site they are no longer
accepting any types of cheques, (personal, business, bank
or 3rd party) as they have been hit by fraud.
It must have been pretty serious because they aren't able
to fulfill orders for several days according to their site.
Does anyone know
Another Australian phrase I laugh at is sacked (means fired from
place of employment), that always gives me a laugh! eg JP was
sacked from the ad agency for swearing at the client.
It sounds like a football term, to American ears.
Is that the equivalent of a 'low blow' or a blow to the 'lower
It would be like if Americans said he got handballed from IBM
(meaning fired)!
In Oz 'handballed' is usually used in a work-related setting when
someone or (more likely) something is transferred to another
department/person. Such as 'the report was a real bugger so I
handballed it to that
Haha. I was just reading some of the posts at freedomhound.com. This
one takes the cake. Is this MLM idiot actually scamming people, or is
he so stupid that he fell victim to one of the 'your e-gold account
has been frozen please give us your password' spam scams? Or maybe
both...
There were 0 matches for virtu and lots of matches for pay.
Says a lot about the internet as a whole.
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Goldchanger's web page seems to have disappeared. Has this
been the case for a while? I only just noticed it.
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don't forget also that if large numbers of people are selling
(redeeming) their e-gold for whatever reasons (higher value, concerns
about safety of deposits, people are broke and need their money in a
way they can spend it etc.), some of the bars will need to be sold by
E-Gold to cover their
Just to stop the site getting flooded by eager bargain-hunters, what
he actually means is that the small surcharge has been waived.
Unfortunately you still have to pay Amazon's prices.
Oh well, maybe someone will hack Amazon and set all the prices to
zero or something. Until then, or unless
I've just finished listing my new round of auctions at Ebay. There
are still a few of the older ones running at
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewListedItemsuserid=scholarlymonkinclude=0since=-1sort=2rows=25
The new ones can be seen at
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
If you have enough wealth to worry about such things, diversify your
holdings! Put some in DGCs (more than 1), some in gold bars or coins,
some in real estate, some in commodities, some in appropriate shares
etc. If all else fails, buy canned goods, ammunition and LOTS of
toilet paper and
Mark Tantam, financial crime specialist at accountants Deloitte
Touche, was quoted in the London Sun, said The advent of the euro is
the biggest shot in the arm for terrorists and organized crime since
the sale of alcohol was outlawed in the US.
blah blah blah
Does anyone else spot the
Somehow I don't think paying tax is high on the to-do list of illegal
immigrants.
Damn it, just when someone pays me for one of my auctions
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewListedItemsuserid=cloud-dragoninclude=0since=30
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
Perhaps it's not a good idea for a market-maker to admit that 'their
Gyros won't fly in Scotland', given that a Gyro is roughly equivalent
to a money-order in Britain.
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I just finished the latest round of e-bay auctions accepting e-gold,
mainly CDs and a few DVDs and videos, which can be viewed here
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewListedItemsuserid=www.emailcash.com.aucompleted=0sort=0since=1
And some of the older auctions can be seen here:
Apologies if this has already been answered, as I get a daily digest
I may be a few messages behind.
There is no way for a merchant to avoid chargebacks if a sale is done
over the internet. The credit card companies simply don't work that
way. The only way for a merchant to have protection
An associate of my father has been trying to order an educational
series of video tapes from Amazon.com recently. Due to some sort of
restrictive and probably illegal practice they won't ship them to
Australia but only within the US. I am hoping someone reloiable on
the list would be willing,
Thanks JPM! I considered Banana, but I thought that Amazon shipped
the items as per normal.
I'll check it out!
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Now it just takes me straight to e-gold.com, as a referral! Nice, was
he doing anything in particualr with it before?
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A few people on the list have been asking recently about
the 'Nigerian scam' and as I have received some offers also, it seems
likely that the list members' emails have been harvested, so I think
it would be a good idea if I wrote about the '419 scam' briefly.
In one form or another this scam
I don't quite understand this fraud you are alleging. You seem to be
saying that he was unable to register a domain for you so you went to
the domain registrar he was using and did it yourself, and got a
refund. Now you seem to be saying that because you have found out
that someone else is
This morning I finished listing a few bits and pieces on Ebay. All
auctions, naturally, take e-gold.
DVDs and CDs can be viewed here
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewListedItemsuserid=cash_money_brotherinclude=0since=-2
Doctor Who items (cards, some books) can be seen here
I read a fascinating article in Time last year about another online
RPG, the world's Biggest. It is a South Korean game, I think it is
called Homelands, and it is fascinating how real-life gangsters have
muscled into the online world, running protection rackets for
characters and threatening
Someone mentioned that ICafe was involved in scams. Could someone
advise me (off list if irrelevant to e-gold) whaqt this is about, and
does it refer to the icafe.com?
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I thought this might be beneficial to some on this list, esp. given
the way the stockmarket is heading. It is from the redoubtable
www.skolnicksreport.com
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/straps1.html
THE SUCKER TRAPS, Part One
by Sherman H. Skolnick 12/29/01
Some people are just busy with
Here is a question for The Gold Casino interview: Why, when I have a
balance of 1.5 grams and have placed a .75 gram bet on a blackjack
hand, won't it let me double (claiming I have insufficient gold)? A
minor glitch but rather annoying. I may not be a professor of
probabilities and advanced
Which reminds me, the following auctions of mine also accept e-gold.
Collectables, trading cards etc:
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=mythoscardssort=0page=1rows=500since=
30include=0showpics=1stab=30
DVDs (a few left)
From one of the local rags:
http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5078933%255E2862,00.html
Disgust over coin offer
By KAREN COLLIER, consumer reporter
September 12, 2002
COIN dealers are cashing in on the World Trade Centre tragedy.
Australia's biggest coin dealer is selling silver and
Yes, but how many of those 17 million accounts have been suspended
due to chargebacks (buyer or seller) or are now dormant due to being
sick of getting ripped off?
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remember that being a country peopled entirely by criminals (see my
upcoming work 'Australia: What Went Wrong' in 18 volumes), they are
largely used for crime and unsavoury enterprises.
Get your facts right Ben. Australia is not populated entirely by
criminals.
There is one person down in
Australian ... being a country peopled entirely by criminals
Speak for yourself! My ancestors were free settlers.
I thought we were all Princess Bride fans here? Anyway, if you had a
choice of where to settle, why would you choose the worst continent
on Earth, with the most inhospitable
I can't tell you how you get an account as an American company - I'd
actually like to know the answer to that before I head back there -
but perhaps knowing who the big banks are there can give you
somewhere to start.
Which isn't much help for the person who asked the question. Have you
ever
If you believe the writings of Lyndon LaRouche, among others (and
although he is fairly mad his research is very reliable) HSBC is one
of the biggest gangster/organised crime banks in the world. That
said, as far as their customers are concerned this is not necessarily
a bad thing for many
The best way to protect your privacy against computerised financial
records is to change your date of birth. While most names aren't
unique, the way They distinguish among the different Ian Greens is
the date of birth. ID numbers of one sort or another are secondary to
that.
Many years ago
Sorry if this has been address already, but I get a daily digest
which doesn't get released for a couple of hours.
This announcement was on the Goldchanger.com webpage:
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As some of you have discovered, we have been behind our two day
turnaround time for a while now. We have
I object to this request and will not comply. Individuals are
not required to have socialist security numbers, and many do
not for religious and other reasons. (For example, King David
was rebuked by God for enumerating his people. He only had
to suffer three days of plague or pestilence; I
It's also a movement that has been linked strongly to violence; to
attacks on IRS agents; to blowing up IRS offices, as well as many
other crimes, he said. There's a great deal of criminal activity
associated with the movement.
Do they take e-gold donations?
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Now available for instant purchase at Ebay, using E-gold (plus
traditional payment methods): Books, books and more books. Lots of
science fiction including some Frank Herbert and H P Lovecraft, plus
some RPG books still left (at time of writing)!
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
To sidestep the flame war brewing here, the best chance for a private
individual to be able to examine the gold holdings would be to becoem
a journalist for, say, wyred magazine, and start making enquiries.
You should at least be able to get an interview with the management
of the facilities,
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