Re: [Elecraft] 240V Line

2014-12-30 Thread Edward R Cole
@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 240V Line Message-ID: 54a20a1e.20...@mesanetworks.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed What Jim says here is correct. The old exception that allowed returning 120V loads to the bare or green grounding wire of a 240V circuit was very limited

Re: [Elecraft] 240V Line

2014-12-30 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue,12/30/2014 12:01 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: I concur. As result of this discussion and because I will soon add another 240vac outlet to serve my 50v-50a switching PS being installed to power a 1100w surplus ch.2 TV Harris amplifier (for use on 6m), I looked closely at some of the

Re: [Elecraft] 240V Line

2014-12-30 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/30/2014 9:35 AM, Jim Brown wrote: In general, the ground conductor must be sized at least equal to the phase conductors. I was always under the impression that the ground wire must be sized for the circuit overcurrent rating (i.e. breaker/fuse rating). I have on several occasions

Re: [Elecraft] 240V Line

2014-12-30 Thread Alan
I'm not an electrician, but I am currently having my house wiring re-done by an electrician and this is my understanding: If you want to run 220V and 110V outlets from the same breaker, you need to use a sub-panel with separate breakers for the 110V circuits. Four wires are needed from the

Re: [Elecraft] 240V Line

2014-12-30 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - Let's close this thread for now to reduce list SNR due to the large volume of posts. In the future, please also refrain from using ALL CAPS and ! in emails, as those are interpreted as shouting and are not appropriate for this list. 73, Eric elecraft.com On 12/30/2014 9:35 AM,

Re: [Elecraft] 240V Line

2014-12-29 Thread Tim Groat
What Jim says here is correct. The old exception that allowed returning 120V loads to the bare or green grounding wire of a 240V circuit was very limited, allowed only for a few large appliances (dryers, stoves/ovens, and water heaters IIRC) which would be disconnected only for maintenance or

Re: [Elecraft] 240V Line

2014-12-25 Thread Edward R Cole
In retrospect, its better if you contract a licensed electrician to run 240v wiring as his license is at risk and is liable if codes are violated. If you are not sure of the code and regulations, then I would say don't DIY. I am lucky as there is no zoning or covenants where I live.

[Elecraft] 240V Line

2014-12-24 Thread Jim Brown
Installing a 240V outlet is not a big deal unless the construction of your home makes it difficult to run the cable. Barring that, a competent electrician should be able to do that in a half day; a difficult run could double the work. All that is required is a pair plus a Green wire. If you

Re: [Elecraft] 240V Line

2014-12-24 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/24/2014 10:39 AM, Jim Brown wrote: Installing a 240V outlet is not a big deal unless the construction of your home makes it difficult to run the cable. Barring that, a competent electrician should be able to do that in a half day; a difficult run could double the work. All that is

Re: [Elecraft] 240V Line

2014-12-24 Thread George Dubovsky
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Phil Kane k2...@kanafi.org wrote: On 12/24/2014 10:39 AM, Jim Brown wrote: Installing a 240V outlet is not a big deal unless the construction of your home makes it difficult to run the cable. Barring that, a competent electrician should be able to do that

Re: [Elecraft] 240V Line

2014-12-24 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed,12/24/2014 11:41 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: A lot of the older amps (Thunderbolt for example) had 120 V fans wired from one hot to ground. I always wondered about that. I think that used to be legal, but it is no longer, and it's very bad practice. The better ones (Ten Tec Titan,

Re: [Elecraft] 240V Line

2014-12-24 Thread Alan
Electric ranges used to have a 110 VAC outlet in which the ground and neutral were wired together. (The 220V plug had only three prongs.) I always wondered how they got away with that. Alan N1AL On 12/24/2014 01:50 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Wed,12/24/2014 11:41 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: A

Re: [Elecraft] 240V Line

2014-12-24 Thread Fred Townsend
] 240V Line On Wed,12/24/2014 11:41 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: A lot of the older amps (Thunderbolt for example) had 120 V fans wired from one hot to ground. I always wondered about that. I think that used to be legal, but it is no longer, and it's very bad practice. The better ones (Ten Tec