RE: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx - To SMT or not to SMT - That is the question!

2005-07-20 Thread Stewart Baker
Sorry, I must have missed something. Why would a KNBx have to be built using ALL SMT. There is a fair amount of vertical (and some horizontal) space where the existing KNB2 fits. I have found no space issue with my Pre-Filter. The requested noise blanker could be a hybrid like the KDSP2, with

[Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx

2005-07-19 Thread Joe Squarzini
Wayne, regarding your post on an upgraded KNB2. The time has come for all of us in the kit building community to embrace surface mount. We need to start installing these devices ourselves. It's really not that hard. I've done it and it is easy to do if you are careful and have good instruction.

RE: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx

2005-07-19 Thread Dan Barker
And, the big bugaboo of kitting smt devices (no markings) is easily remedied. You get the parts sorted on strips. Use spray paint! If you need more than 8 colors, I'd be quite surprised. Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 snip The time has come for all of us in the kit building community to embrace

RE: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx

2005-07-19 Thread EricJ
KE6US -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Squarzini Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:21 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx Wayne, regarding your post on an upgraded KNB2. The time has come for all of us

Re: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx

2005-07-19 Thread Vic Rosenthal
Joe Squarzini wrote: Wayne, regarding your post on an upgraded KNB2. The time has come for all of us in the kit building community to embrace surface mount. We need to start installing these devices ourselves. It's really not that hard. There's a difference between replacing a couple of

Re: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx

2005-07-19 Thread Mike Morrow
Eric wrote: Maybe many hams don't consider building with SMTs relaxing or fun although THEY CAN DO IT. It may not be that hard, but for many it is not much FUN. snip many other good points Maybe we forget that SMTs were developed for MACHINE assembly, not hand assembly. snip many more good

RE: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx

2005-07-19 Thread EricJ
KE6US -Original Message- From: Mike Morrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:57 AM To: EricJ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx Eric wrote: Maybe many hams don't consider building with SMTs relaxing or fun although THEY CAN DO IT. It may

Re: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx

2005-07-19 Thread Andrea Borgia
EricJ wrote: built some SMT kits that weren't significantly smaller than they would have been using traditional 1/8 resistors mounted on end. And I've built some Conversely, I have built an incredibly small adapter into a DB9 minishell using ordinary components, just for the sake of let's see

RE: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx

2005-07-19 Thread Neal Campbell
Morrow'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx Heh heh heh. I've been their target on QRP-L. Almost 50 years ago, my friends gave me a cigarette to try. I did. I puked for hours afterward. They all laughed and said I'd get used to it. I asked them, But why would I want

RE: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx

2005-07-19 Thread Thom R LaCosta
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, EricJ wrote: I'll pass on the beta testing. I'll probably pass on an SMT kit. I build for fun. If it isn't fun, I might as well get one built better than hand assembly by some machine. But, Maybe some of us that would like to operate who can't now because the existing

RE: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx - To SMT or not to SMT - That is the question!

2005-07-19 Thread Lee Buller
Gotta get my two cents in here too.. I'll try anything once (except something that is detrimental to my health)...but...it seems that if the designer needs more components to make something work...well why not make the everything bigger. Small little radios are nice...but...large radios

RE: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx

2005-07-19 Thread EricJ
LaCosta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 1:35 PM To: EricJ Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, EricJ wrote: I'll pass on the beta testing. I'll probably pass on an SMT kit. I build for fun. If it isn't fun, I might as well

RE: [Elecraft] Wayne on KNBx

2005-07-19 Thread Thom R LaCosta
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, EricJ wrote: I have no problem with that. I'd probably buy it myself fully assembled to contend with my S5-S8 afternoon noise level. My last sentence quoted below actually says that. Sorry if I mis-read it. BUT, if Elecraft starts offering more and more pressembled