Re: [Elecraft] 6m

2022-05-20 Thread Robie Elms
Josep, Yes, the K3S covers the 6 meter and. Robie AJ4F On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 1:38 AM Josep via Elecraft wrote: > Hi guys, > maybe a silly question but, does all K3s have 6m band..? Looks like my > hexbeam resonates on that band according tomy Ant analyzer, but when I > connect the coax to

Re: [Elecraft] 6M E-skip

2020-08-28 Thread Jim Brown
Great, Marv. And I'm sure your presence has been appreciated! I was on 6M in my high school days in WV in '57-'59, which included the F2 openings from the sunspot max in '58. Otherwise, I mostly worked CW, so I was prepared for Aurora openings, and had a lot of fun there too. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] 6M E-skip

2020-08-27 Thread marvwheeler
In 58 years of amateur radio operation, I had never been on 6 meters until last year. I was told about the Fred Fish Award and the rarity of CN77 on 6 meters I decided to dive it. I did not get on the band until late July last year but was able, this year, to confirm 2261 contacts this year. It

Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter

2018-12-06 Thread Chris Cox, N0UK
In my opinion, although it works great on 6m, where high-speed meteor scatter techniques really shine (no pun intended) is when used on 2m and 1.25m bands. There are frequently enough longer pings and burns on 6m that SSB can be used effectively, especially during meteor showers. Many new (and

Re: [Elecraft] 6m Meteor Scatter

2018-12-06 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/6/2018 12:59 AM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: MSK144 encodes and decodes very differently than FT8. Lots of great info in this post. I'll expand on this comment. FT8, JT65, and JT9 are noise reduction modes -- the transmit the same message several times in the message cycle, and

Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter

2018-12-06 Thread Edward R Cole
Many years ago I made some 600 mile contacts using 100w SSB on 6m with a 3-element yagi. Pretty sure it was during Perseids shower. BTW best frequency for ms is 44-MHz (that's where professional ms circuits are run) so 6m is the best band to try out ms. On Saturday I finally raised my new

Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter

2018-12-05 Thread Jim - N4ST
John, I only dabble with meteor scatter from time to time but did make ~70 QSOs with 80 watts and a 3-el beam at 15 feet. The beam is on a 10' pole on my back deck and no rotor. I normally have it parked pointing due West but rotate it by hand on occasion according to the activity maps. As

Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter

2018-12-05 Thread David Olean
Good point, Wes. If you have a really good station on both ends, SSB would be a lot faster and more fun in my opinion.  I used to get sked requests from K9NS for contest points on 50 and 144 a few years back. We used SSB and not digi mode. In September it took about 1 minute to complete with

Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter

2018-12-05 Thread lmarion
SSB/CW is all I have ever used. I have 41 logged SSB MS with 24 cards for some of those. Leroy AB7CE -Original Message- From: Wes Stewart Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 12:44 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter Why not just use CW (or even

Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter

2018-12-05 Thread Wes Stewart
Why not just use CW (or even SSB)? Disclaimer.  I have zero experience with 6M MS.  That said, I have confirmed QSOs with every continental state west of the Mississippi and a few east on 2M MS (or tropo) :-) Wes  N7WS On 12/5/2018 12:08 PM, Jim Brown wrote: While MS QSOs can be made with

Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter

2018-12-05 Thread Jim Brown
While MS QSOs can be made with random CQing on 50.260, most are scheduled via Ping Jockey or ON4KST chat. There's a learning curve to operating MS, and QSOs via MS can take a while to complete. It's not unusual for it to take 30 minutes for "rocks" to align in the space between QSO partners to

Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter

2018-12-05 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Use WSJT-X. Mode is MSK-144. Band is 6M. WSJT has the frequencies in the band table. 50.260 and 50.360 as I recall. If your station is configured for FT-8 and CAT control then you are ready to go. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Gordon LaPoint wrote: > >

Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter

2018-12-05 Thread Mike Cizek W0VTT
...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 10:44 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter On 6Mtrs what mode and frequency should we be using?? Thanks, Gordon - N1MGO On 12/5/18 11:29 AM, David Olean

Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter

2018-12-05 Thread Gordon LaPoint
On 6Mtrs what mode and frequency should we be using?? Thanks, Gordon - N1MGO On 12/5/18 11:29 AM, David Olean wrote: Sporadic meteors are arriving from all sorts of directions, and the best time for sporadic meteors is at 6 AM local time because that is the time when your location on Earth is

Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter

2018-12-05 Thread David Olean
Sporadic meteors are arriving from all sorts of directions, and the best time for sporadic meteors is at 6 AM local time because that is the time when your location on Earth is moving into the wind so to speak.  The Earth's travel in its orbit and the forward momentum of the spinning Earth

Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter

2018-12-05 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Meteors can enter the atmosphere from just about any direction.    I generally point east to north to west, although any meteors entering to the south of me would also leave trails that reflect radio waves.    Depending on activity, very low at present, one should look for predominant

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Beacons

2018-07-01 Thread KC7QY
beacons moved up into the 50.150MHz region. A bad idea in my opinion. Jim KC7QY From: W2xj To: KC7QY Cc: "414c6432-07b4-4d92-a502-06e47f34c...@elecraft.com" <414c6432-07b4-4d92-a502-06e47f34c...@elecraft.com>; Elecraft Mailist Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2018 4:05 PM Subjec

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Beacons

2018-07-01 Thread W2xj
Context? Sent from my iPad > On Jul 1, 2018, at 5:48 PM, KC7QY wrote: > > A quick check of Part 97 says: > Under 97.203 Beacon Stations > > > Jim KC7QY > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home:

Re: [Elecraft] 6m REPORT

2018-06-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
Richard, This is an issue on a small number of units. We know the cause and have a simple fix. Please call support on Monday. 73, Wayne N6KR http://www.elecraft.com > On Jun 10, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Richard Zalewski wrote: > > First attempt to put amp on 6m. No problem with antennas

Re: [Elecraft] 6m REPORT

2018-06-10 Thread Jim N7US
I had it about a week ago on 15M and reported it to Elecraft. It hasn't recurred. 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- First attempt to put amp on 6m. No problem with antennas our output but display disappears after about a minute of calling cq on cw. At first only half the screen

Re: [Elecraft] 6m and 10m openings

2018-06-06 Thread W5RDW
Six meters is open so good here in NTexas, I have to take a coke/water/beer, etc. break ever so often! Even my dog is mad at me sitting in front of the rig (running primarily FT8). Surprisingly, the openings to EU and Asiatic Russia have been almost common place here recently! I'm having too much

Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency

2017-06-12 Thread Richard Lamont
On 11/06/17 22:41, Erik Basilier wrote: > I don't have any suggestions for a solution beyond what others have already > mentioned, but as a side note I would like to discuss the concept of "off > frequency". > > It seems to me that these days, on the HF bands that I frequent, more and > more

Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency

2017-06-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rhodes Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 6:10 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency ...would certainly be interesting to set those operators who tune for the "zeros" down in front of a vintage rig with a tunin

Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency

2017-06-11 Thread Mike Rhodes
...would certainly be interesting to set those operators who tune for the "zeros" down in front of a vintage rig with a tuning dial - although I think Erik alluded to that a bit in his post. Better yet, how about a stint in the crystal controlled Novice band where you tuned from one end of the

Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency

2017-06-11 Thread Jim - N4ST
ct: Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency Ian, I don't have any suggestions for a solution beyond what others have already mentioned, but as a side note I would like to discuss the concept of "off frequency". It seems to me that these days, on the HF bands that I frequent, more and more people t

Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency

2017-06-11 Thread Nr4c
une 11, 2017 11:55 AM > To: Ian Kahn <km4ik@gmail.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency > > Have you experienced this on other bands, during casual operating since the > rig was returned to you? > > I find that when I am on

Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency

2017-06-11 Thread Erik Basilier
Ian, I don't have any suggestions for a solution beyond what others have already mentioned, but as a side note I would like to discuss the concept of "off frequency". It seems to me that these days, on the HF bands that I frequent, more and more people tune SSB to where the displayed frequency

Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency

2017-06-11 Thread Fred Jensen
Indeed! The huge gulf between "precision" and "accuracy." A display with gobs of decimal places can be colossally but precisely wrong. It is also true that frequencies that end in .000 are "better" for many people so I avoid them when looking for a run frequency. [:-) This problem on 6

Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency

2017-06-11 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
You say RIT is not engaged, but what about XIT? Either of these being ON can cause an issue in this regard.Additionally, the way one person tunes to a SSB station may cause some frequency disparity between two stations. Excercise: with eyes closed, tune to a station and then look at

Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency

2017-06-11 Thread Ian Kahn, KM4IK
...@embarqmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 12:55 PM To: Ian Kahn, KM4IK <km4ik@gmail.com>; 'Ron Manfredi' <wa2...@optonline.net>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency Ian, Can you receive any station at a known frequency. Here in the US it is easy

Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency

2017-06-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ian, Can you receive any station at a known frequency. Here in the US it is easy to use WWV, but other standard frequency stations exist around the world. Tune to the standard frequency station and do the Reference Oscillator Calibration. K3 manual page 50. Use Method 2. I cannot

Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency

2017-06-11 Thread Ian Kahn, KM4IK
:55 AM To: Ian Kahn <km4ik@gmail.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency Have you experienced this on other bands, during casual operating since the rig was returned to you? I find that when I am on SSB, I tune until my ear may likes what I am h

Re: [Elecraft] 6m off-frequency

2017-06-11 Thread Ron Manfredi
Have you experienced this on other bands, during casual operating since the rig was returned to you? I find that when I am on SSB, I tune until my ear may likes what I am hearing , and as such, I may not be exactly on their frequency. (that is one reason for RIT!) Also, I have found that

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-26 Thread Dave G3WGN M6O
Thanks Joe for a very helpful note. This will materially aid my 'birdie hunting' when I upgrade S/N 4474 with new synths and internal preamp in a couple of weeks time. 73 Dave G3WGN M6O WJ6O -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-25 Thread Ken_ke2n via Elecraft
My K3 with the new synth (and upgraded DSP board) has an unfortunate birdy on 50.276 (unfortunate because this is the JT65 calling frequency in the US). I know it is a DSP-type artifact because the pitch of the birdy changes with the IF Shift control. The IF shift control does not change the

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-25 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
The spur also changes with bandwidth. In my K3 it happens to fall at 50.279.00 with FC=1.50, BW=2.80 in DATA_A when the rig is at 50.276.00. When going to FC=2.20, BW=4.00 the spur moves to ~50.285.5 and in USB NORM it falls at 50.275.71 (zero beat). Again, this is fortunate in that the spur

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-23 Thread Brian Hemmis
David, Your friend states there are 2 dozen birdies on 6 meters with the antenna DISCONNECTED. This tells me nothing. Please tell him to connect a RESONANT 6 meter antenna to the radio then tell me how many birdies he hears. 73, Brian K3USC On Jun 23, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Wayne Burdick

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-23 Thread Wayne Burdick
David, When we designed the K3S, we very carefully evaluated internally generated spurs on all bands. We found that the KSYN3 and KSYN3A had roughly the same number. This is consistent with both being high-level signal sources; you can't get rid of spurs entirely. All but a very few are masked

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-23 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Yes indeed. Checking for birdies or any such with an unterminated antenna jack is invalid. You can terminate with a dummy load, or more practically with an antenna listening to normal band noise. 73, Guy K2AV On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Brian Hemmis bhem...@mac.com wrote: David, Your friend

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-23 Thread David Aslin G3WGN
...@aslinvc.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards Yes indeed. Checking for birdies or any such with an unterminated antenna jack is invalid. You can terminate with a dummy load, or more practically with an antenna listening to normal band noise. 73, Guy K2AV On Tuesday, June

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-23 Thread David Aslin G3WGN
) To: David Aslin G3WGN da...@aslinvc.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards David, When we designed the K3S, we very carefully evaluated internally generated spurs on all bands. We found that the KSYN3 and KSYN3A had roughly the same number

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-23 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue,6/23/2015 10:44 AM, Brian Hemmis wrote: David, Your friend states there are 2 dozen birdies on 6 meters with the antenna DISCONNECTED. This tells me nothing. Please tell him to connect a RESONANT 6 meter antenna to the radio then tell me how many birdies he hears. It tells me a LOT.

Re: [Elecraft] 6M repeater use K3

2015-03-05 Thread Michael Eberle
I think there is a setting in the config menu for FM deviation.  Maybe it is set too low?  Mike  KI0HA Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com /divdivDate:03/05/2015 5:22 PM (GMT-06:00) /divdivTo:

Re: [Elecraft] 6M repeater use K3

2015-03-05 Thread Bill Frantz
Mine is set to the default, 5.0. FWIW, the microcode is version 05.10 D1 is 02.83 D2 is 00.00 only one receiver FL is 01.17 dr is 00.00 no DVR When I checked the versions, the utility found newer software. I tried hitting the repeater with microcode 05.14 and FL 1.19, but it still fails. There

Re: [Elecraft] 6M repeater use K3 - fixed

2015-03-05 Thread Bill Frantz
Well, I found the problem. I had been playing with PL DEV at Wayne't request back in September. Wayne wanted to know what the minimum deviation that would work on the transverters. On 9/6/14 at 8:36 AM, Wayne wrote: 2. To adjust the PL DEViation, locate the FM DEV menu entry, then tap '1' to

Re: [Elecraft] 6m......just my thoughts

2014-02-27 Thread Jim Brown
My interest in 6M goes back to that memorable solar cycle around 1958, when from my QTH in WV I worked ZS in the morning, W6, in the afternoon, KH6 a bit later with a ground plane and 25W AM. As an active CW op on HF, I had great fun keying my 2E26 rig to work AU. 40 years later, I enjoyed 6M

Re: [Elecraft] 6m......just my thoughts

2014-02-27 Thread Donald Butler
-round, you really need to allocate time to the other HF bands. Don, N5LZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:01 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] 6m......just my thoughts

2014-02-26 Thread Keith Heimbold
Not to rain on the folks in Europe or eastern US or even Texas but 6m is a totally different animal out west. It is still super fun but we get about 1/4 or less of the openings of these other regions. So yes put up a 3 element antenna but don't expect to even come close to those DX numbers.

Re: [Elecraft] 6m......just my thoughts

2014-02-26 Thread Jeff Stai
True, but when I lived in so cal I managed to work most of SA and the pacific rim as well as 48 states (missed AR and NJ) with that three element. Not that forlorn. 73 jeff wk6i On Wednesday, February 26, 2014, Keith Heimbold ag...@hotmail.com wrote: Not to rain on the folks in Europe or

Re: [Elecraft] 6m......just my thoughts

2014-02-26 Thread Keith Heimbold
To better put this in perspective out of the entire San Diego DX club we have only one member who has 6m DXCC and it has taken him many solar cycles to do it. And it was all from the west coast. The SDDXC is a pretty large club too. Last I looked we have a second member who is closing in on

Re: [Elecraft] 6m QRN on my K3

2013-05-25 Thread Lance Collister, W7GJ
I wish it were than easy ;-) I can hear it fine and get a good bearing here at home with 4x9 element yagis, but I can't hear the noise at all with the dipole or vertical in the car. I just have to hope that the intermittent noise is on when I drive out to the spots along the line where the

Re: [Elecraft] 6m QRN on my K3

2013-05-24 Thread K7WIA
I hope they find a fix for it Lance, I have the same sounding noise at my QTH EdK7WIA -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/6m-QRN-on-my-K3-tp7574150p7574151.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] 6m QRN on my K3

2013-05-24 Thread Lance Collister, W7GJ
Good luck to both of us! I spent several hours out in the car this morning trying to track it down, but when I got home again, it was gone :-( I could have driven right by the problem and never noticed it, if it was off at that particular time. This is going to be a really tough one to

Re: [Elecraft] 6m QRN on my K3

2013-05-24 Thread Bill Frantz
Consider trying to triangulate it. Find the bearing from two locations and see where they cross on a map. Go to that area when it acts up again. Lather, rinse, repeat. :-) The bearing from most any Yagi should help. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV On 5/24/13 at 11:16 AM, w...@q.com (Lance Collister,

Re: [Elecraft] 6M on K3 (SAD)

2012-06-22 Thread Bill K9YEQ
I fired up the K3 for the recent Vhf contest. I have the preamp installed. I used the SmallIR at 3/4 wave with only 11 radials running 100 watts. I worked to east coast stations Q5 both ends. SWR was 3.2:1 as I need to add more radials. It was a pleasure. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-06 Thread Edward R Cole
Comparing 6m to 17m is not very fair. My impression of 17m is its an extension of 20m in nature and use. Some regard 6m is our lowest VHF band; others as the highest HF band. IMO it is neither. I find line-of-sight propagation quite inferior to 2m and even 70cm. As a band with ionospheric

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-06 Thread Brett Howard
- Original Message - From: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com To: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW I don't feel that way at all. A contact in which only grids are exchanged leaves me

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-06 Thread GD0TEP
2010 06:12 To: Sandy Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW Heck I guess I'll stop doing that... I've just kinda learned from listening to the bands. I'm finally getting my speed up fast enough that actually carrying on a QSO is possible. At 8WPM your RST, Name, QTH, RIG and ANT

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-06 Thread John Ragle
When I started ham radio, there were just two modes in use: CW and AM phone. RTTY certainly existed commercially, but I can not recall anyone mentioning that mode in those long-ago times. Moreover, transceivers didn't exist...one had a transmitter, a receiver, and an antenna change-over

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-06 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Even if you send QRZ? de W5TVW K you may just get a callsign sent ONCE! This is standard contesting procedure. Sending your call more than once in clear conditions could be wasting time for those who copy CW well. And in a pile up sending your call the second time could be over the top of the

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-06 Thread N2TK, Tony
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Sandy Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 5:14 PM To: WILLIS COOKE; Jim Brown; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW This phenomenon is not restricted to 6 meters! The same thing happens on HF as well: people looking for club numbers, grid

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-06 Thread David leDuc
I know this is not a 6 meter discussion group but I do have a K3. I am hearing a lot of people on 6 meters working DX which I cannot hear, also calling CQDX. I am wondering what kind of antennas you are using? I am using a 3 element SteppIr and am in FN42 Dave N1IX

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-06 Thread Ken Roberson
dxing Ken K5DNL - --- On Tue, 7/6/10, David leDuc n...@n1ix.com wrote: From: David leDuc n...@n1ix.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 8:53 AM I know this is not a 6

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:53:44 -0400, David leDuc wrote: I am wondering what kind of antennas you are using? I am using a 3 element SteppIr and am in FN42 About a year ago, I put a 3-el SteppIR with 6M element on a tower. Before that I worked a lot of 6M DX with my K3 by loading my 40M dipole.

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-06 Thread Wes Stewart
During the 2009 ARRL Field Day I was working from home on emergency power.  I had cobbled together a 6-meter preamp for the K3 and decided to take a listen.  I don't have a 6-meter antenna so I was using my paralleled wire 40-80 meter inverted V with almost 200' of RG214. Two of the local

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-06 Thread Rich - K1HTV
http:www.k1htv.us = = = Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:53:44 -0400 From: David leDuc n...@n1ix.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 001a01cb1d12$a6627bc0$f32773...@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know this is not a 6 meter discussion group but I do

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-05 Thread WILLIS COOKE
I don't feel that way at all.  A contact in which only grids are exchanged leaves me with little satisfaction at all.  I at least like to exchange names and QTH.  I get enough of the quicky QSOs with contests.  I don't need more on six meters or digital contacts.  I know I am out of step with

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-05 Thread Gary Gregory
Cookie, You are not alone. My sentiments exactly. Gary On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:29 AM, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't feel that way at all. A contact in which only grids are exchanged leaves me with little satisfaction at all. I at least like to exchange names and QTH. I

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-05 Thread The Smiths
person has already gone. What kind of enjoyment is that? To each their own.. I'll save that kind of operation for Contesters... Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 12:29:59 -0700 From: wrco...@yahoo.com To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW I don't

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-05 Thread David Gilbert
...@audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW I don't feel that way at all. A contact in which only grids are exchanged leaves me with little satisfaction at all. I at least like to exchange names and QTH. I get enough of the quicky QSOs with contests

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-05 Thread Sandy
the politeness gone? 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com To: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW I don't feel that way at all. A contact in which only grids

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-05 Thread Lee Buller
The issue here is Awards. Working grids, states and countries on 6 meters. It is my feeling that is what makes QSOs so quick on 6 meters, or conducted in contest mode. Now, I am not an long time 6 meter operator (in fact, I've been on the band since July 1, 2010) but I have been able to

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-05 Thread ussv dharma
change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM USSV DHARMA  --- On Mon, 7/5/10, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: From: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW To: Jim Brown j

Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-05 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 11:26:40 -0700, David Yarnes wrote: However, I find myself on both sides of the fence. Sometimes I get antsy wanting to work a particular grid square, but other times I get into a longer exchange First, there's no fence. Do what you wanna. :) But do what makes sense in

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-24 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Jim Cox wrote: Amen Joe. It is amazing the gripes you hear and the justifications for them. The specs were advertised; if you didnt like them, why did you purchase a K3? I am a very satisfied K3 customer and I have used the K3 to work weak dx on all the bands 160-6

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
David Ferrington, M0XDF, wrote on Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:10 AM . hell, no 6M until next May anyway! :-) 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 Don't count on that! :-) At any point in a solar cycle 6m 'Sporadic E' openings do occur during any month

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Well, I 'may' not be QRV on 6M until then - depends when the PR6 ships :-) Thanks for the insight Geoff - I don't have a brilliant Ant for 6 here, so hoping the pre-amp will help me hear better. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Dear God, Did you mean for the giraffe to look like that or was it an

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Julian, G4ILO
David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Well, I 'may' not be QRV on 6M until then - depends when the PR6 ships :-) Thanks for the insight Geoff - I don't have a brilliant Ant for 6 here, so hoping the pre-amp will help me hear better. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 Well, given the current economic

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Well, difficult for me to tell, since I don't have a great 6m ant., but I think about par with 857 - a good many people on here have said is quiet deaf. I have the KXV3 since I also have the XV144 - which I'll get around to building sometime! -- Study without desire spoils the memory, and

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread LANCE COLLISTER
David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: sorry, found it - thanks for the heads up - ordered mine to ship with KDVR3 - hell, no 6M until next May anyway! :-) 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 You will appreciate the extra dB improvement if you try to make any weak signal contacts. I know that most of the 6m

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Dave G4AON
Julian, from my earlier measurements (from per my web site): Adding an external pre-amplifier between the RF out and RF in of a KXV3 interface improves the sensitivity by 10 dBm giving 10 dB SINAD at -136 dBm in 400 Hz bandwidth and a MDS of -146 dBm -which compares to an MDS of -136 dBm

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Dave G4AON wrote: Julian, from my earlier measurements (from per my web site): Adding an external pre-amplifier between the RF out and RF in of a KXV3 interface improves the sensitivity by 10 dBm giving 10 dB SINAD at -136 dBm in 400 Hz bandwidth and a MDS of -146 dBm -which compares

RE: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
will never benefit from it. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 1:35 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp Dave G4AON wrote

RE: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Joe Subich, W4TV-3 wrote: I don't know that you can say performance on six meters should have been higher than the performance on the HF bands. There are probably more K3 users who will never use six meters in any serious way than those who will. However, the Elecraft preamp does

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread dalspaugh
: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp Joe Subich, W4TV-3 wrote: I don't know that you can say performance on six meters should have been higher than the performance on the HF bands. There are probably more K3 users who will never use six meters in any serious way than those who will. However, the Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread LANCE COLLISTER
Julian, G4ILO wrote: I'm not saying that performance on six meters should have been higher than the performance on the HF bands. I'm saying that it should not be worse than an IC-756 PRO III, a TS-2000 or an FT-2000 would be, considering the claims made about the K3's performance. I have

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Jim Wiley
While having a 6-meter preamplifier may help when signals are weak, if the band well and truly opens, signals will be so strong that overload will be most operator's main problem. Remember that during the openings of 1948 and 1959, many stations managed to work WAS with transmitters that

RE: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp K3

2008-10-23 Thread Bill Johnson
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Wiley Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:32 PM To: Greg-N4CC Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp While having a 6-meter preamplifier may help when signals are weak, if the band well and truly opens, signals will be so

RE: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread gd0tep
://www.gd0tep.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO Sent: 23 October 2008 19:52 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp Joe Subich, W4TV-3 wrote: I don't know that you can say performance on six meters

RE: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
, G4ILO Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:52 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp Joe Subich, W4TV-3 wrote: I don't know that you can say performance on six meters should have been higher than the performance on the HF bands. There are probably more

RE: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Joe Subich, W4TV-3 wrote: No, you are asking for a lower MDS than on HF without regard to the overall performance of the radio in terms of dynamic range. There are many K3 users who rely on dynamic range and freedom from interference on HF that blows away any of the radios you list.

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
gd0tep wrote: As some one who bought the K3 purely for it's RX performance on 6m, can some one tell me once and for all if it is as good as, or better/worse than, other radios like the Icom 756 pro etc... It was my understanding from information provided that it was, is this not the case??

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Brendan Minish
On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 05:05 -0700, Julian, G4ILO wrote: I can always use the FT-817. Just how deaf is the K3 on 6m really, anyway? Not very deaf at all. It's just not capable of hearing to the thermal nose floor at a good setup. Having said that Stock K3's have managed EME contacts so it's not

RE: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
: Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:23 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp gd0tep wrote: As some one who bought the K3 purely for it's RX performance on 6m, can some one tell me once and for all if it is as good as, or better/worse than, other radios like

RE: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Bill Johnson
Julian, clear that this is as a result of a design compromise made on the basis that HF performance was paramount I don't think it was a compromise, if it was intentional to keep performance at peak. Weak signal work usually requires preamp at the antenna not at the radio, and personally

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread Jim Cox
- Original Message - From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Ian White GM3SEK' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:57 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp The K3's sensitivity specification corresponds to a noise figure of about 13dB. My K3

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-23 Thread ab2tc
Hi all, Personally I wish Elecraft had resisted the temptation to include the 6m band in the K3. Grafting the 6m band, which is a VHF band, on to a HF transceiver will always be a compromise at best and at worst it might affect HF performance negatively. In my opinion ICOM made a good choice in

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-22 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
sorry, found it - thanks for the heads up - ordered mine to ship with KDVR3 - hell, no 6M until next May anyway! :-) 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book. -Marcus Tullius Cicero, statesman, orator and writer (106-43 BC) On

Re: [Elecraft] 6M Preamp

2008-10-22 Thread Augie Hansen
David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: sorry, found it - thanks for the heads up - ordered mine to ship with KDVR3 - hell, no 6M until next May anyway! The 6m band often has great single and double hop E skip during late November and most of December here in the USA. My European 6m DX contacts were

Re: [Elecraft] 6m preamp news?

2008-10-21 Thread David F. Reed
Perhaps I am missing something; its 10/21 and I still can't find it? Is there a link we can get, or is it not up yet? Thanks and 73 de Dave, W5SV Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote: I'll be putting it up on the order page and on the main web page by Monday. We've released it to production

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