Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-24 Thread Jozef Hand-Boniakowski
Sorry: Nonsense. The ability to talk via ham radio overseas, Norway. etc., is indeed unique when you can consider that no hardware corporate, nor any other, infrastructure is necessary to achieve the task. Shut down the cell-phone infrastructure and/or the Internet and communications

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-24 Thread W2AGN
Cathy James wrote: W2AGN wrote: The term Ham Radio has been used at least for 75 years, possibly more. Most of us old-timers are proud to be Hams. But then, we took real exams and even, back in the olden days, had to pass a Morse Code test. (After walking barefoot in the snow 5 miles to the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jozef, For what it is worth, the lone term ham should be used carefully in my opinion. It is also used in theater and other efforts of endeavor, and in some cases, it is not always viewed in a positive light. I am always careful to use the words Ham Radio together except in cases where I

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-24 Thread Phil Kane
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 09:52:44 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To that end, the magnetic signs we are making to put on vehicles when we are doing public service communications at events will read - (with BRARC Club and ARRL logos) Baton Rouge Amateur Radio

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-24 Thread Phil Kane
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:26:20 -0700, Fred Jensen wrote: Then somewhere along the way, some fairly dim bulb threw away our brand name and renamed us the First Combat Communications Group. Go ahead ... make a cool nickname out of that one :-( The ComComms. Why not? g -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-23 Thread W2AGN
DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: So Ken hates the word Ham when used to describe us, well, hams. ME TOO! 1. As a adjective to RADIO, it adds no meaning except to other hams 2. To the uninitiated, is sounds rather silly (at best) 3. It does not convey the technical nor operating skill levels

RE: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-23 Thread Craig Rairdin
So Ken hates the word Ham when used to describe us, well, hams. ME TOO! It fits with the old-fashioned-ness of the hobby. The other embarrassing word we use is Elmer to refer to a mentor. In terms of its reputation and usefulness, ham radio seems stuck in the 50's to me. Technology-wise it's

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-23 Thread n5ib
I'll offer a comment here... I beleive that the phrase ham radio operators carries more recognition with the public than amateur radio operators. At least here along the hurricane coast if you tell someone your hobby is amatuer radio you might get a quizzical look, but if you say you're a ham

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-23 Thread Julian G4ILO
On 6/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll offer a comment here... I beleive that the phrase ham radio operators carries more recognition with the public than amateur radio operators. At least here along the hurricane coast if you tell someone your hobby is amatuer radio you

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-23 Thread Jozef Hand-Boniakowski
I always remember wanting to be a Ham. I have now been a ham for 43 plus years having acquired WN2MIC in 1963. It is a respectful term as well as one of endearment, in my opinion. If the public at large is unfamiliar with or find the term ham as odd or unusual, then I suggest an

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-23 Thread Ian Stirling
I don't mind the term, Ham. What I really hate is Amateur Radio operator. Many Radio Amateurs are much more than mere operators - designers, builders, elmers, experimenters and so on. Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962 -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-23 Thread Ken Kopp
Hard to say which name carries the most negative implications to the public ... ham or amateur - but I'd expect ham is the most negative. Yes -WE- think of ham fondly, but to someone who knows little or nothing about the hobby it means something less than good. Perhaps the best we can do is Ham

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-23 Thread W6NEK
- W6NEK - (A HAM since 1959) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham I'll offer a comment here... I beleive that the phrase ham radio operators carries more recognition

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word ham

2007-06-23 Thread Fred Jensen
Julian G4ILO wrote: I'm with you on this. When you have a recognizable brand name you don't throw it away, and ham radio means more to most people than any new name you might make up. During the US adventure in SE Asia, I served in the First Mobile Communications Group. We had