Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first...

2011-06-30 Thread Tony Estep
On 6/30/2011 7:37 AM, William Ravenel wrote: ...Bought a paddle and decided to learn to use it with my left hand so my dominant right hand could take notes. I also decided to set the paddle up with dits on the left === Very cool. As we all know (or should know), Jimi

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first...

2011-06-30 Thread Ross Primrose N4RP
On 6/30/2011 11:17 AM, Tony Estep wrote: === Very cool. As we all know (or should know), Jimi Hendrix's guitar was strung the standard right-handed way. No, it wasn't. He used a right-handed guitar, but it was strung in the standard left-handed way. 73, Ross N4RP -- FCC

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first?

2011-06-29 Thread John Ragle
I like the keyer in the K3. Long ago, my straight key was all I had. For a while I used a bug, but keeping it adjusted was a nuisance. As soon as Heath came out with their keyer, I built one and loved it. My own experience is that it becomes very hard to copy fast CW if the sender is careless

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first?

2011-06-29 Thread Bill W4ZV
Edward R. Cole wrote: I didn't get a paddle until a couple years ago, even though my radios had internal keyers. I am finding it hard to use the paddle. I guess too many years with a straight key where your hand makes each character. I guess in time I will get the reflexes to use an

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first? (was: Re: K3 in the Media)

2011-06-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2011 28 Jun 23:20 -0500, Buddy Brannan wrote: Completely agree. To this day, I still can't send properly with an iambic paddle and tend to use them as though they were single lever paddles. Even though I've never owned such a beast. Really, really want another bug, though. In late

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first?

2011-06-29 Thread Lou Kolb
-- WA3MIX - Original Message - From: Wayne Conrad wcon...@yagni.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first? I'm too new to this to know much, but it seems to me that one might best learn to send Morse well by copying

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first?

2011-06-29 Thread PTA_ABD
There is a certain value in learning to use a straight key. Requires no power or batteries, is immune to RF, and passable CW can be generated with just about any type of contacts. I recall using gum wrappers taped to my fingers when I was a kid ( just fer fun). I still have one hooked up. I

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first?

2011-06-29 Thread Tony Estep
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:19 AM, John Ragle tpcj1...@crocker.com wrote: I like the keyer in the K3 Good point. The keyer in the K3 is excellent, but not every rig with a built-in keyer is as good. I have an SDR radio. The accompanying computer program contains a keyer that produces

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first?

2011-06-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2011 29 Jun 08:31 -0500, Tony Estep wrote: So I had to add an outboard keyer (Ham Gadgets MK1, highly recommended). Agreed. Not to take anything away from the K3's keyer, but the fact that the MK1 has K1EL keyer command compatibility makes it useful with a wide range of programs. It

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first?

2011-06-29 Thread Kevin Rock
You will easily use a straight key if you ever need to now that the rhythm of the code is built into your mind. Good luck and have fun, Kevin. KD5ONS On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:14:43 -0700, Wayne Conrad wcon...@yagni.com wrote: I'm too new to this to know much, but it seems to me

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first?

2011-06-29 Thread Kevin Rock
I once had an op check into ECN who I knew but his fist sounded rather odd. Spacing was good but the keying sounded flaky. He was also slower than his normal speed. After the nets he emailed me and told me his story. He had been using two pieces of stranded wire to send code. I think

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first?

2011-06-29 Thread WILLIS COOKE
: Wed, June 29, 2011 12:14:43 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first? I'm too new to this to know much, but it seems to me that one might best learn to send Morse well by copying a lot of well sent Morse.  I only say this because I listened to computer generated Morse for months before I

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first? (was: Re: K3 in the Media)

2011-06-29 Thread Jim Dunstan
At 06:06 PM 6/28/2011 -0700, you wrote: The hardest CW to copy (for me anyway) has insufficient spacing between letters or words. This is exactly what a keyer does NOT help you with! The operator has to learn to recognize what good CW sounds like. Does sending with a straight key help with

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first? (was: Re: K3 in the Media)

2011-06-28 Thread stan levandowski
There is a product called the CW Machine invented by Ulrich Steinberg N2DE/DJ8GO and marketed by Begali which has vast capabilities beyond a standard keyer. One of the things it can do is analyze one's keying and provide feedback regarding spacing, etc. It appears to be a fabulous investment

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first? (was: Re: K3 in the Media)

2011-06-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
The banana boat swing is a combination of pure laziness and the limitations of many Vibroplex bugs. Vibroplex made many, many bugs with thick springs that prevent their dit rates being slowed below 35 wpm or so. So QRSing below that speed (most marine communications occurred between 15 and 20 wpm

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first? (was: Re: K3 in the Media)

2011-06-28 Thread Kevin Rock
The decoder on the K3 can be used to monitor one's sending. Getting the word spaces correct can be checked with it. However, thinking, copying, and sending simultaneously with the slight delay inherent in the decoder is like juggling five balls at once. It can be done but it makes life

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first? (was: Re: K3 in the Media)

2011-06-28 Thread Buddy Brannan
On Jun 28, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote: The hardest CW to copy (for me anyway) has insufficient spacing between letters or words. This is exactly what a keyer does NOT help you with! The operator has to learn to recognize what good CW sounds like. Does sending with a straight key

Re: [Elecraft] Straight key first?

2011-06-28 Thread Wayne Conrad
I'm too new to this to know much, but it seems to me that one might best learn to send Morse well by copying a lot of well sent Morse. I only say this because I listened to computer generated Morse for months before I got on the air. When I finally did send, I got compliments right away on