Re: [Elecraft] Mac Mini, cocoamodem, and k3

2011-02-20 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 20, 2011, at 3:50 PM, David Guernsey wrote: Has anyone used cocoamodem with the k3 and a mac mini computer? ... In the manual I find a microphone in plug which would be the line in, but find no line out to take the computer audio back to the k3. Which vintage of the Mac mini?

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Observations Digital Modes and SSB

2011-02-02 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 2, 2011, at 2/21:37 AM, Julian, G4ILO wrote: The most important thing when using PSK modes is not how much power you are using, but that the signal is *clean*, with the minimum of IMD products. And that is why with a barefoot K3 or any other 100W radio you should not

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Observations Digital Modes and SSB

2011-02-02 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 2, 2011, at 2/29:47 AM, gold...@charter.net wrote: What is a good IMD report number and good SN number from a receiveing station and what are the numbers that state you are messing up the bands. The transmit IMD that you see bandied about are 3rd order IMD numbers. If you

Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft K3] ALC readout

2011-02-02 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 2, 2011, at 2/210:23 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Lyle's the designer and he has stated that for data modes, 4 bars with the 5th bar flickering is correct. The 5th bar indicates the onset of ALC. When I measured the transmit IMD from my K3 (using a dummy load and a directional

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Observations Digital Modes and SSB

2011-02-02 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 2, 2011, at 2/211:14 AM, gold...@charter.net wrote: Thanks that now makes sense to me. However, than almost every signal that I am looking at is outside of the two main carriers. Like little spikes, I don't know how else to define it. You only see two clean rails (plus IMD

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Observations Digital Modes and SSB

2011-02-02 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 2, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Jim Brown wrote: An important source of IMD (and harmonic distortion) is the sound card used to generate the digital signal. In the case of the K3, it is definitely poor IMD from the transmitter, since my K3's transmit IMD was even worse when set to use the

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Suggestions/Considerations speaking of digimodes functionality

2011-02-02 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 2, 2011, at 11:51 AM, ik1bxn wrote: Usb : I'm not suggesting to integrate a conventional 232/Usb converter inside k3... That by the way, is what the TS-590S has done. Not just for serial, but for audio also. There is a single USB connector which hubs to a serial port for

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Slow power change

2011-01-27 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 27, 2011, at 1/277:46 AM, Rich - K1HTV wrote: Here is how long it takes the power, as read on the K3 and on a W2 watt meter, to recover after the PWR control is changed slightly... Is this normal? No, it is not normal. It is not hard to make it go away, however. The power

Re: [Elecraft] unequal power output per tone in FSK

2011-01-12 Thread Kok Chen
I did a simulation also this evening (after off line discussion with N1AL) and can confirm what Alan has said. A 1 dB amplitude modulation only increases the keyclick noise floor by 0.5 dB 2 kHz away from the signal. It took a 6 dB difference in amplitude to raise the keyclicks 2 kHz away by

Re: [Elecraft] unequal power output per tone in FSK

2011-01-10 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 10, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: The effect on transmission bandwidth is negligible, and it's also extremely unlikely to affect copy. It depends. Consider an RTTY demodulator that includes automatic threshold correction (ATC). It will treat such a signal as one with 1 dB

Re: [Elecraft] unequal power output per tone in FSK

2011-01-10 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 10, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: The effect on transmission bandwidth is negligible, and it's also extremely unlikely to affect copy. Hank W6SX had written to ask me for a rough guess of transmission bandwidth when there is a 1 dB difference in level between mark and

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SMT breadboarding

2011-01-06 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 6, 2011, at 1/610:32 AM, Brian Alsop wrote: Just how does one breadboard something with IC SMT parts having 0.025 (or other similarly small) lead spacing? I have a few projects here that require this. I am not sure they have precisely what you are looking for, but Sparkfun has

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual iTunes

2011-01-06 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 6, 2011, at 1/63:02 PM, Phil LaMarche wrote: Will there be an app soon or the iPad which has a larger screen? A good way to get K3 documentation onto an iPad is to take the PDF files for the K3 Owner's manual, Programmer's Manual and schematics from the Elecraft web site and drop

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Software for RTTY

2011-01-05 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 5, 2011, at 1/510:10 AM, robt...@comcast.net wrote: the K3 user manual states “The K3 directly supports CW/PSK31/RTTY ASCII text transmit and receive via its RS232 port.” You will need software that understands the KY command to transmit RTTY data (Baudot, not ASCII) through

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KAT3 and 160 with 40m long doublet

2011-01-02 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 2, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Adding or subtracting a 1/8 wavelength of feedline will often bring it into range, and that is normally the easiest solution if the only thing you are considering is the ability of the tuner to produce a match. You can see what Don means by

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KAT3 and 160 with 40m long doublet

2011-01-02 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 2, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Kok Chen wrote: You can see what Don means by taking a look at this figure (KAT3 at 1.8 MHz, with Smith Chart centered at 50+i0 ohms): http://homepage.mac.com/chen/Technical/Tuner/tuner1.8.png I should add that, if memory serves (it has been a while ago that I

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KAT3 and 160 with 40m long doublet

2011-01-02 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 2, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Kok Chen wrote: In the case of the K3, you may have to try everything up to about 3/4 of a wavelength since the green and blue parts are not symmetrical. (Yes, 3/4 wavelength at 160m is no fun :-). My mistake, that should be everything up to 3/8 of a wavelength

Re: [Elecraft] Latest Sherwood table

2010-12-31 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 31, 2010, at 12/316:22 AM, Bob Naumann wrote: 1) Why is the FT5000 at the top of the list? (And not the K3 when they both get a 101 in the column the table is sorted on?) Is it because the FT5000 is newer so it goes at the top? I don't know if it is Rob Sherwood's rationale,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 DM 780

2010-12-31 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 31, 2010, at 2:27 PM, gold...@charter.net wrote: I have tried different settings for mike input for rear line in and everything that everyone has suggested. If you have already turned on VOX in DATA-A mode and nothing works still, try measuring the sound card's audio with a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 DM 780

2010-12-31 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 31, 2010, at 12/313:09 PM, don Swetzig wrote: VOX is not an option in DATA-A mode K3 says N/A in the menu. VOX should be available in DATA A and AFSK A modes, but not in FSK D and PSK D data modes. Use the MODE button to switch to DATA mode and then hold down the DATA MD

Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-29 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 29, 2010, at 12/2910:12 AM, radioshoppe wrote: As mentioned in my email about the best I can do with Method 2 is about +/20 hz. Do you have an RTTY program that has a crossed-ellipse display (affectionately called crossed bananas by RTTY nuts)? If so, that might get you

Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter

2010-12-25 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 25, 2010, at 3:45 PM, George Jan wrote: My SignaLink (USB sound card) worked just as easily. It is a completely different story with that one. 16 bit Audio is an integral part of the USB Class specifications. The chip in the SignaLink (TI/Burr-Brown) is compliant with the USB

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] WTB: Low Band DXing

2010-12-20 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 20, 2010, at 12/203:36 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: http://www.elecraft.com/books/books.htm Is Elecraft still shipping the Second Edition of the ARRL HF Digital Handbook whose cover is on that page? The 4th Edition has been out since 2007! 73 Chen, W7AY

Re: [Elecraft] Winmor and K3

2010-12-13 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Andrew Meyer wrote: I had considered using a Signal Link but is there really any reason to do so? In your case, there is no reason unless the K3's turn around time is too slow for Winmor when using the built-in VOX. You'll have to check that part out. The

Re: [Elecraft] Apple MacBook Pro Audio for PSK-31 with K2?

2010-12-10 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 10, 2010, at 12/1011:32 AM, Paul Wilton wrote: Just about any old USB soundcard will work with a MacBook Pro - I use an old Creative USB Soundblaster that I picked up second hand. Noting that you can plug in an iPhone headset, I did experiment using an iPod Classic 4 pin

Re: [Elecraft] An AGC story

2010-12-09 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 9, 2010, at 12/99:17 AM, k...@aol.com wrote: But, since AGC works on every signal in the passband, if there are two signals - one S9 and the other S3 appearing at the same time, the S3 signal will disappear because the AGC is knocking down the S9 signal to an S3 level and

Re: [Elecraft] Service Manual and old time experience

2010-12-09 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 9, 2010, at 12/910:04 AM, Edward R. Cole wrote: But reading, over and over and building kits got me more knowledge about real electronics than 80% of my fellow EE majors had. There were a few with military training that had hands-on. My knowledge came with the years, and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 docs ... clarification

2010-12-07 Thread Kok Chen
The K3 manual, like the FT-1000MP manual, seems to have an index that is ordered by Functions, which is natural for manufacturers and designers but perhaps not so much for users. The manual is written from the point of view of somebody who already knows how to use the K3. Someone had

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 3, 2010, at 12/36:44 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote: So now we have a 2 ms claim for the K3. I know I measured it to 5 ms but this was something like 2 years ago. What is it? Can Elecraft please tell. Quite possibly the waveshaping is done by an FIR window. So the design parameter

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote: Yes 99% of all CW stations clicks at the break side. That makes perfect sense, Jan. If they are using simple IIR filters, the slope discontinuity is worse at the onset of switching than when it is at the end of the leading edge or trailing

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Key Clicks

2010-12-03 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 3, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Corboy - Poteet wrote: So my question is: if someone puts a spectrum analyzer on the CW output of a K3, are key clicks detectable? On make, on break? Close in, far out, in between? If you have one of these new fangled digital 'scope that takes a USB memory

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-02 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 1, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU wrote: Kok Chen provides some good references for CW transmit shaping, but cocoaModem source isn't available for hams to look at. Sure it is. cocoaModem sources has been public from the time cocoaModem was written in the days Mac OS X

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-02 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 2, 2010, at 12/24:32 AM, Barry N1EU wrote: Are you saying that wide sidebands measured with the rig at 4msec rise-time are probably not going to be even wider with the rig at 1 msec rise-time? Not that much, since the really far off keyclicks are mostly from higher order

Re: [Elecraft] Interesting Conversation about FT-5000 vs K3

2010-12-01 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 1, 2010, at 12/112:32 PM, K9ZTV wrote: The list goes on and on . . . Sako Hasegawa, JA1MP (General Television Co and Yaesu Musen) 73 Chen, W7AY __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-01 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:26 PM, K9ZTV wrote: Sherwood sorts on Dynamic Range-Narrow Spaced, and both rigs are 101db at 2 Kcs. If I correctly grok Rob's numbers, the K3 requires the use of a very narrow roofing filter (200 Hz) to attain the 101 dB of dynamic range (i.e., the two beating

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-01 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 1, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Barry N1EU wrote: It's absolutely amazing, after years of Yaesu being called out and doing nothing about key clicks in their rigs, that they would bring out a radio (FT-5000) and provide the user the ability to reduce the cw rise-time to 1 msec (menu mode, cw

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Line out, speakers, and L-mix-R settings...

2010-11-27 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 27, 2010, at 11/275:14 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: MixW has a dual [RTTY] receive capability - I don't know about any of the other software. On the Mac OS X side, cocoaModem has two independent receive channels in the wideband RTTY and the dual RTTY interfaces. There are two

Re: [Elecraft] Final K3 APF Lab Test Results

2010-11-20 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 20, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Any difference must be attributed to noise and signal conditions, filter bandwidth settings, or APF tuning vs. actual signal pitch. This is the nature of APF; it is most effective under specific conditions. Try turning it on, and if it

Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 16, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: There is a serious misconception by some true believers that Elecraft invented down-conversion (or at least conversion) to an i-f in the 8 to 9 MHz range. Nothing could be further from the truth, and I know that the folks at Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 16, 2010, at 3:17 PM, Kok Chen wrote: Check out Solid-state Receiver Design with the MOS Transistor in April and May 1967 issues of QST (WB6AIG is now K6GT). Whoops, George beat me to it :-). 73 Chen, W7AY __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Are the birdies really birdies

2010-11-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 16, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Mike K2MK wrote: Moving the shack CAT 5 cable away from other radio related cables is having a positive effect. Next I'm going to try a shielded CAT 5 cable from the wall to the shack PC. I can attest to the effectiveness of shielded Ethernet cables (for me

Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 16, 2010, at 3:51 PM, ab2tc wrote: I'd love to but where do I find the article? I don't think my local library has many back issues of QST. You should be able to read (some of) them at the ARRL web site if you are an ARRL member. If not, you can try the QST View CD-ROMs. ARRL no

Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Adjustable Q

2010-11-01 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 1, 2010, at 12:53 AM, David Woolley (E.L) wrote: Quote para 2, both points: Reciprocity still applies with respect to gain and off axis effects. My mistake. David is correct on this point. Given a constant signal power across the receiving antenna terminals, the SNR would be

Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Adjustable Q

2010-10-31 Thread Kok Chen
On Oct 31, 2010, at 10/3110:05 AM, Byron Servies wrote: Naieve newbie question, because im missing something here: if the signal you want is that hard to receive, what are the chances the other station will be able to hear your reply? Since I use simple antennas, and even though I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF

2010-10-31 Thread Kok Chen
On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF wrote: I know nothing of CW and it's esoterics but it seems to me that maybe this APF thingy maybe of some use to digital signals too, as in peaking up a (very) weak PSK31 signal or something of that nature. Would that be the case? IMHO,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF

2010-10-31 Thread Kok Chen
On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Paul Christensen wrote: Perhaps a quasi anti-LMS algorithm could be used to establish Auto APF. Does such an algorithm now exi[s]t by name? (For those who are not familiar with LMS, it was an algorithm created by Ted Hoff for his dissertation, under the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF (audio peaking filter) progress report #2

2010-10-27 Thread Kok Chen
On Oct 27, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Paul Christensen wrote: And the reason why some of us have been stating that roofing filters and brick-wall DSP filters, as good as they are for their intended purpose, cannot equate to the results obtained by the APF. Indeed. If you squint a little at the

Re: [Elecraft] Double Trouble Sound Card or MMTTY

2010-10-27 Thread Kok Chen
On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:38 PM, Robert Seymour wrote: Instead of two-ring figure for the MMTTY XY plot, I only get a blob and jibberish printing out. When running WriteLog, the sound card is able to take WAV files and input them to my K3 transceiver. If you are seeing a fuzzy blob at the

Re: [Elecraft] APF For K3: progress report

2010-10-26 Thread Kok Chen
On Oct 26, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: It simply boggles my mind that someone would want to change his chosen sidetone pitch. Don, the difference on usability could perhaps boil down to this: In one case you are trying to peak a signal with a fixed pitched inside noise. There is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - MicroKeyer 2 - mmtty transmit issues on RTTY using FSK-D mode

2010-10-24 Thread Kok Chen
On Oct 24, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Jim Spears wrote: I hear a single tone in the monitor and the P3 also shows the same thing. A microKeyer does not modulate the FSK keying signal unless the keyer is commanded to do so by the software that is controlling it. If nothing is sent to the keyer from

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna (Definitely OT)

2010-10-17 Thread Kok Chen
On 10/17/2010 1:40 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote: This will go nicely with my K3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tIZUhu21sQ Seawater has electrical conductivity of seven *orders* of magnitude lower than copper! As a quick and dirty check, I created a simple 10m ground plane antenna in NEC-4.

Re: [Elecraft] Digital, Smigital...

2010-10-05 Thread Kok Chen
On Oct 5, 2010, at 12:36 AM, David Woolley (E.L) wrote: The Shannon formula, and in particular the error free condition, is only valid for gaussian noise. Yes, the main Shannon Theorem (Theorem 17) mentions thermal noise. (In addition to being Gaussian, Theorem 17 also requires that the

Re: [Elecraft] Digital, Smigital...

2010-10-04 Thread Kok Chen
On Oct 4, 2010, at 12:41 PM, John Ragle wrote: I must be missing something here. How can one expect high fidelity audio (e.g. 20 HZ to 20 kHz) with a receiver with a pass-band of 2.5 or 3.0 kHz? With those strictures, one is always going to get carbon mike or slightly better audio,

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

2010-09-30 Thread Kok Chen
/ --- The disadvantage of Java loggers is that there is no way for them to interoperate with other Mac OS applications through AppleScript. 73 Chen, W7AY On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Kok Chen wrote: On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:42 AM, J FRANCIS G3LWI wrote: Anyone know of suitable logging program that I can

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

2010-09-29 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:42 AM, J FRANCIS G3LWI wrote: Anyone know of suitable logging program that I can use with the Apple/Mac computer MacLoggerDX . by Don, VE3VRW . not free . everything and the kitchen sink . Cocoa framework http://www.dogparksoftware.com/MacLoggerDX.html ---

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

2010-09-29 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 29, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Tom is using a DigiKeyer II and K3 with RUMlog, uH Router and cocoaModem during his current stay in Rwanda. Tom was using RUMped, not RUMlog at 9X0TL. And µH Router was never in the loop; RUMped talks directly to the digiKeyer II.

Re: [Elecraft] FSK power

2010-09-23 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 23, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Ray Sills wrote: The difference in power between 50 watts and 100 watts is essentially insignificant. Whether 3 dB of power difference is important depends on band conditions. Alex (Mr. CW Skimmer) VE3NEA has a nice set of measurements that he'd made a few years

Re: [Elecraft] 700 Hz roofing filters

2010-09-21 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 21, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF wrote: SSB is called mode A3J in most of the legal documents that govern our hobby. The reason why the mode is called A3J in all the legal stuff is that the 3 is the maximum bandwidth in khz that is permitted.) The 3 in A3J has nothing to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 :: firmware update failure

2010-09-19 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 19, 2010, at 9/199:47 AM, Bill K9YEQ wrote: I find the process simple and it works well for upgrading any of the K3 devices. The procedures for firmware updating both P3 and K3 aren't fool proof. While better but still not 100% foolproof, the Canon cameras that I have can

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 16, 2010, at 9/169:59 AM, Jim Brown wrote: A VERY large component of fading is due to multipath -- that is, the arrival of more two or more wavefronts that travel different paths, and thus have slightly different travel times. Selective fading does not require multipath. The

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Kok Chen
I just rummaged around in Google and found a different paper that Watterson wrote related to HF propagation and digital modes (almost 10 years after his HF channel model paper): http://www.its.bldrdoc.gov/pub/ntia-rpt/79-29/79-29.pdf His conclusion definitely advocates the use of diversity

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 16, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Alan Bloom wrote: I think there are some free filter design programs on the web that can design an all-pass network. It may need to be a big filter (i.e. lots of coefficients) to get good amplitude and phase accuracy over a 10:1 frequency range (300 Hz to 3

Re: [Elecraft] LP Pan versus P3 Panadapters

2010-09-15 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Alan Bloom wrote: If you turn on averaging in the waterfall you can see farther down into the noise. It works best on steady carriers. With CW signals you have to keep the averaging time less than a dit. I have found that per-bin averaging of the power

Re: [Elecraft] Dual Soundcards

2010-09-13 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 13, 2010, at 3:00 PM, David Gilbert wrote: If I install two identical sound cards in my computer, is there any way to separately identify them so that one Windows application would always use one of them... On the current version of Mac OS X, every sound device has a unique device

Re: [Elecraft] USB/Serial adapters and sleep mode on OS X

2010-09-05 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 5, 2010, at 5:21 PM, David Fleming wrote: But the Keyspan and FTDI adapters get very grumpy when they wake up after being put to sleep. The way I handled this in µH Router (the microHAM devices uses FTDI chips) is to register for MacOS X Power Manager callbacks. Before the Mac OS X

Re: [Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-14 Thread Kok Chen
On Aug 14, 2010, at 8/149:57 AM, Dennis KB7ST wrote: KB7ST: What is the advantage of choosing a MARK tone other than 2125? Many RTTY ops don't like to listen to such a high pitched tone pair in their headphones. If you are tuning by ear, it is also easier to figure out how far and

Re: [Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-12 Thread Kok Chen
On Aug 12, 2010, at 8/129:09 AM, Lyle Johnson wrote: ... Tuning is critical and an error of more than 5 Hz changes from solid copy to no copy. With a binary PSK demodulator, you can be off tuned up to an amount of plus or minus 90 degrees of perfect phase coherency between bit

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor

2010-08-05 Thread Kok Chen
On Aug 5, 2010, at 8/58:16 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: I might be asking for an iPad version soon (or has Wayne beaten me to that? :-) You might find that it is a challenging exercise to connect the iPad to the RS-232 port of the K3. There is a USB jack in the iPad Camera

Re: [Elecraft] Balun Questions

2010-07-23 Thread Kok Chen
On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Brett Howard wrote: Just bought the last copy of this book that Amazon had in stock for 17.95 + 3.99 in shipping. Looks like it will be a very nice reference to have on the shelf... Understanding, Building and Using Baluns and Ununs by the late Jerry Sevick,

Re: [Elecraft] 250 Hz and 400 Hz Filter Measurements

2010-07-18 Thread Kok Chen
I just did a quick experiment. First, I lied to my K3 that my 400 Hz filter is really a 2.8 kHz filter. I then turned AGC off and set the K3 WIDTH setting to 2.4 kHz. This way, I will be able to see the response of both the 2.4 kHz DSP filter and the 400 Hz roofing filter, as Dr.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - 250 Hz and 400 Hz Filter Settings

2010-07-18 Thread Kok Chen
On Jul 18, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Jim Miller KG0KP wrote: Made me wonder though if one could decode two signals intertwined but individual mark and spaces traces in the clear form each other?. Yes, you can, and the method is regularly used by some RTTY folks. It is called Mark-only or

Re: [Elecraft] List Rule change, PLEASE!

2010-07-15 Thread Kok Chen
On Jul 15, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Jim Brown wrote: I always go under the assumption that if one guy wants to know something, several other list members do too. I usually go off list, which I very often do, when the question gets specific. Stuff like K3 sees no transmit audio from cocoaModem.

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Now I've heard everything

2010-07-14 Thread Kok Chen
On Jul 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: Chen does your K3 PA talk back? Nothing that I can hear over my tinnitus, Wes. 73 Chen, W7AY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and USB Audio Codec

2010-07-13 Thread Kok Chen
On Jul 10, 2010, at 7/102:57 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: If one were going to provide digital output, it would be far better to stream the raw in I/Q data from the DSP's ADC via firewire rather than push it through two additional A/D and D/A steps and reduce it to a single channel of

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Now I've heard everything

2010-07-12 Thread Kok Chen
On Jul 12, 2010, at 7/1210:25 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: I haven't gotten very far with this because 1) the IMD is apparently temperature sensitive and drifts, becoming a moving target For what its worth, when I ran close-spaced IMD measurements (*very* closed spaced -- the BPSK31 idle

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio routing question

2010-07-06 Thread Kok Chen
On Jul 6, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Jim Brown wrote: Because MOST fading is the result of cancellations between a direct wave and a reflected wave arriving at some particular point. HF fading is actually a very interesting phenomenon, and definitely not just a case of signal cancellation. If

Re: [Elecraft] MMTTY FSK

2010-06-13 Thread Kok Chen
On Jun 13, 2010, at 2:07 PM, N1JM wrote: In real world operating, has anyone really experienced a difference or could tell a difference? When you are a weak station looking for holes in between loud stations to put yourself in, yes, it will matter how wide those stations are. (It is like

Re: [Elecraft] MMTTY FSK

2010-06-12 Thread Kok Chen
On Jun 12, 2010, at 6/125:09 AM, Richard Ferch wrote: Brett Howard wrote: I do see FSK as a method that is slightly less prone to TX distortions. I have done some testing with a second receiver, and my K3's RTTY signal seems to be cleaner in AFSK than FSK (lower odd-order sidebands).

Re: [Elecraft] K3 / Data Remote Questions

2010-05-18 Thread Kok Chen
On May 18, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Jim Bennett / W6JHB wrote: My question is, what'll I need to use MacLoggerDX and CocoaModem with the K3? I figure I'll need to replace the Icom cable on the SL-USB for CocoaModem, right? The SignaLink USB will not be of any use with MacLoggerDX. You will need to

Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Kok Chen
On May 11, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Jon Perelstein wrote: I have noticed that the longer my CQ string, or the more I repeat it, the more frequently I get a response to the CQ. I've also noticed a lot of stations that repeat their 3x3 CQs at least two or three times before they get an answer.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread Kok Chen
On May 2, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Rick Prather wrote: I sometimes do that [using cocoaModem] for a backup and it will display the incoming CW speed. Should probably qualify it with roughly the incoming CW speed when the SNR is good, and the guy sending the Morse is not afflicted by some weird

Re: [Elecraft] Mac OS X and K3 Utility Opinions?

2010-04-30 Thread Kok Chen
On Apr 30, 2010, at 4/309:08 AM, Jim bennett wrote: Just curious if you other Mac OS X users have had positive experiences with the K3 Software on that platform? It is well-behaved? Easy to use? While I have only used the K3 Utility for firmware upgrades, I've found the Mac OS X

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmer's Reference iPhone App Available

2010-04-29 Thread Kok Chen
On Apr 29, 2010, at 4/299:26 AM, Matt Palmer wrote: ... ipad doesn't have i/o at all, no audio input... You are probably not aware that the iPad's Camera Connection Kit supports a USB Class Compliant sound card. 73 Chen, W7AY

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmer's Reference iPhone App Available

2010-04-29 Thread Kok Chen
On Apr 29, 2010, at 4/2910:11 AM, Matt Palmer wrote: And then an app needs to be written that supports all that... A very basic PSK31 app for the iPod Touch has been available through the Apple app store for a while now. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-psk31/id329842689?mt=8

Re: [Elecraft] P3 color selection (was Re: time to order your P3, design details?)

2010-04-19 Thread Kok Chen
This web page is intended for web designers, but is useful for designing any color based user interface: http://www.iamcal.com/toys/colors/ It lets a person with normal color vision see what people with various color deficiencies see. For example, when you check the various common anomalies

Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-17 Thread Kok Chen
On Apr 17, 2010, at 10:54 AM, lstavenhagen wrote: That's because you're dramatically oversimplifying #2 hi hi. There you forgot, keyboard, mouse, external monitor, drivers (introduce first 3rd party here), searching internet for fixed drivers, installing LP-PAN (3rd party #2) and associated

Re: [Elecraft] K3, sound cards and PSK31

2010-04-05 Thread Kok Chen
On Apr 4, 2010, at 11:22 PM, George A. Thornton wrote: It has been recommended to me that I get the SignaLink USB interface because it is easy to work with and reliable. The SignaLink USB contains two functions: (a) a 16-bit sound card (Burr-Brown 2909 chip) and (b) an audio activated

Re: [Elecraft] K3, sound cards and PSK31

2010-04-05 Thread Kok Chen
On Apr 5, 2010, at 4/57:33 AM, lstavenhagen wrote: Still with PSK31, trying it out with cocoaModem, I find I can't keep the buffer full. I can get ahead on simple plain language but throw some numbers and punctuation in there and the buffer catches up pretty quick. 45 baud RTTY

Re: [Elecraft] TX IMD problem

2010-04-04 Thread Kok Chen
On Apr 4, 2010, at 4/46:50 AM, chen dave wrote: I use K3 internal 2 tones test function + SDR-IQ+ SpectraVue3. Are you ignoring the crest factor of the two tone test signal? To get 100 watts average RF power from a two tone signal, the instantaneous peak power has to be nearly 200

Re: [Elecraft] discretize...

2010-03-27 Thread Kok Chen
On Mar 27, 2010, at 7:13 PM, David Christ wrote: I am not an expert on FFT and higher math, but would someone please explain to me what discretize signifies that is not covered by quantize. The word discrete in DFT refers to discrete time samples, and not to the quantization of the

Re: [Elecraft] New MAC owner - dumb question about installing K3 utility

2010-03-08 Thread Kok Chen
Many applications on Mac OS X keep support files in [/Library/Application Support] and [~/Library/Application Support]. Check [~/Library/Applications Support/Elecraft/] for the Elecraft K3 Utility support files. Static resources (GUI, Icons, AppleScript definitions, etc) are stored in the

Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-02-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 16, 2010, at 12:39 AM, turnbull wrote: When you write the manual for the P3 would you please include a good explanation of the use of waterfall displays. I have one on my OII but do not fully understand its benefits. Spectrograms, such as waterfalls, make use of your eye-brain

Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-02-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 16, 2010, at 2/168:33 AM, Julian, G4ILO wrote: PSK31 was invented by G3PLX and there was a waterfall in his reference implementation of the mode, psk31sbw.exe. I stand corrected. 73 Chen, W7AY __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] Best Digital Program for the K3?

2010-02-08 Thread Kok Chen
I had recently made some measurements of RTTY and PSK31 which shows that sound card driven programs using DATA-A can put out a cleaner transmitted signal than the K3's internal generators in the PSK-D and FSK-D modes. Unlike many other rigs, the K3 is very forgiving about the precise Mic

Re: [Elecraft] Best Digital Program for the K3?

2010-02-08 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Julian, G4ILO wrote: By 50 watts average PSK power do you mean PWR set to 50, or PWR set to 100 or whatever gives an average 50W out? 50 W with PWR knob, and measured to be close to 50W on an external averaging wattmeter with an idling Varicode on BPSK31 This

Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 antenna tuner

2010-01-31 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 31, 2010, at 1/3110:34 AM, Roger D Johnson wrote: I started on this topic because the tuner failed to find a good match at 1800. To see the approximate range of the internal K3 antenna tuner at 1800 kc, take a look here

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] PCI Express sound card for digimodes

2010-01-30 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:57 AM, N2TK, Tony wrote: Does anyone make a sound card, internal or external that has two separate inputs/outputs? I believe stereo sound cards are actually more common than mono sound cards. Edirol (I think) makes an inexpensive mono USB sound card, but almost

Re: [Elecraft] Three Recordings

2010-01-06 Thread Kok Chen
The spectra can be seen at http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio1.png http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio2.png http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio2.png (Estimated using cocoaModem's spectrum display with 1.5 second exponential averaging of each FFT bin. Please ignore the red

Re: [Elecraft] Three Recordings

2010-01-06 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 6, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Kok Chen wrote: The spectra can be seen at http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio1.png http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio2.png http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio2.png Oops, the last one should be http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio3.png

Re: [Elecraft] Oh, well.

2010-01-06 Thread Kok Chen
I apologize if the experiment was actually to discover if the people who had complained about listening fatigue could actually identify the K3. I had hoped that being able to compare the profile of the filters could lead Elecraft to create a bandpass design that sounds the least fatiguing.

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