Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-03 Thread Mike Cox
I guess another option could be to take your old board out of the radio and send it to Elecraft for a factory update and wait for it's return. Of course this would render the radio inoperable for that period of time but at least you would know that your serial number vintage DSP board matched

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread David Cutter
Dave I would gladly fit this daughter board and perhaps do the LF enhancement, but several on this list seem to be saying that the exchange DSP board does something more than these mods provide. Can anyone clarify? David G3UNA Take a look at the K3 mods section, guys. The DSP board

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
David, Yes, Wayne, Lyle and Eric have stated that the results were quite similar to the W9AC mods, but were done in a different manner (I presume it was easier to accomplish resistor changes in board manufacturing). There may have been some other insignificant 'tweaks' to the hardware done

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Brett Howard
I'd just also kinda like to know what is different in that I currently have a rev B board that I've changed out the C9 and C13 I think they were with 100uF caps. I used properly sized caps designed for that pad layout and used professional tools to do the job. Thus this is the same as if those

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Bob Naumann
to the original build? 73, Bob W5OV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brett Howard Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 7:17 AM To: d...@w3fpr.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D I'd just

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread rfenabled
To: David Cutterd.cut...@ntlworld.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D David, Yes, Wayne, Lyle and Eric have stated that the results were quite similar to the W9AC mods, but were done in a different manner (I presume it was easier to accomplish resistor changes

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread The Smiths
the same question over and over again. Thank you. And now, if you will, Wayne M Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 07:51:06 -0500 From: w3...@embarqmail.com To: d.cut...@ntlworld.com CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D David, Yes, Wayne, Lyle and Eric have

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Grant Youngman
Maybe it's possible to assume that even Elecraft owners and employees deserve a weekend off from the 729 questions (of which perhaps 12 are unique) that get asked around here :-) Don does a yeoman-like job of filling in .. Of course, the ultimate answer to everything is 42, which should be

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
you. And now, if you will, Wayne M Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 07:51:06 -0500 From: w3...@embarqmail.com To: d.cut...@ntlworld.com CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D David, Yes, Wayne, Lyle and Eric have stated that the results were quite similar

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Brett Howard
See its not angst... Some of us like to open the radio up and melt a little solder inside. I've alredy done most of the mods I believe to bring my board up to Rev. D. I've already placed an order for a Rev. D board but if the mods aren't much more than what I've already done I'd rather bring it

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Bob Naumann
Who said they might even be reworked boards? On what do you base this claim? -Original Message- From: Brett Howard [mailto:br...@livecomputers.com] Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 4:53 PM To: Bob Naumann Cc: d...@w3fpr.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Bob Garrett
Bret, Please send us the details and source claiming these are reworked boards. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread The Smiths
before I want to see the telephone game played on the reflector with everyone answer with their idea on why the original post said. M Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:13:00 -0700 From: xda...@cis-broadband.com To: notforc...@hotmail.com CC: w3...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D My

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Mike Harris
- From: Bob Naumann w...@w5ov.com To: 'Brett Howard' br...@livecomputers.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; d...@w3fpr.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D Who said they might even be reworked boards? On what do you base this claim? -Original

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
Actually Grant, the *real* answer is *Maybe* 73, Don W3FPR Grant Youngman wrote: snip Of course, the ultimate answer to everything is 42, which should be sufficient, except of course the question isn't known :-) __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Brett Howard
DSP Rev D See its not angst... Some of us like to open the radio up and melt a little solder inside. I've alredy done most of the mods I believe to bring my board up to Rev. D. I've already placed an order for a Rev. D board but if the mods aren't much more than what I've already done I'd

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Grant Youngman
Good grief guys. Look at the shipping status on these. Due to the high rate of orders for this item, and the slow rate of return of the exchange DSPs, new K3DSPUPGD orders take 2-4 weeks to ship. it would appear that Elecraft is reworking returned boards to D level. That seems perfectly

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
This is exactly what we are doing for the DSP upgrade. They are fully tested and have a full warranty too. 73, Eric WA6HHQ (Back to my day off.. ;-) _..._ Grant Youngman wrote: Good grief guys. Look at the shipping status on these. Due to the high rate of orders for this item, and the

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Brett Howard
My issue is that I've already added a LPF daughter card and I've already done a modification for low frequency extension. However Eric has mentioned that there are further enhancements beyond just these two things in one of his emails. Eric said in a previous email There are a number of changes

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Bob Garrett
Thanks for the explanation Eric. Now, maybe we can end this thread. 73, Bob K3UL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Hi Brett - I apologize for any confusion on this issue. The changes on the K3DSP Upgrade are just for low freq RX -and- TX response and the LPF above 4 kHz. You are probably covered. My main concern was that some had done only RX -or- TX mods on their own. Some only have modified the RX path,

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Merv Schweigert
Bob Naumann wrote: Who said they might even be reworked boards? On what do you base this claim? Somewhere either on this list or the elecraft site or ?? I read that the boards were shipping up to 4 to 6 weeks late because of the slow return of the old ones for rework. So yes it appears

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread juergen
wanting one quickly. John --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com wrote: From: Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D To: Bob Naumann w...@w5ov.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, d...@w3fpr.com Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 7:57 PM Bob Naumann wrote

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
Merv, I don't understand that logic. See Eric's post from 9:08 PM EST today. What is wrong with getting a fully updated DSP board with a full warranty to put into your SN 3000 K3. Who cares what the serial number of the K3 that board came from, it is a *new* board after it has been upgraded

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-01 Thread Julian, G4ILO
DaveL G3TJP wrote: Note, working with 0603 size SMT components is not a task to be undertaken lightly. Considerable skill is needed to remove existing components and substitute the replacement values. I have very little experience with SMT components but I recall that I had to remove a

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2010-01-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Have a look at the mod. Other than trying to make Elecraft justify each additional nickel, it's really whether you want to upgrade the DSP board or not. You do the stuff yourself, you're responsible for what happens, or doesn't. Especially if you use a non-Elecraft mod. Replace/mod the board by

[Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2009-12-31 Thread David Lankshear
Take a look at the K3 mods section, guys. The DSP board add-on AF LPF piggyback board is now available as K3DSPLPF, K3 DSP LPF Board $24.95 Just two tracks to cut and six through-board connections to be made. No problem at all for anyone who can figure out which end of a soldering iron is

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2009-12-31 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
This will not make the DSP totally equivalent to Rev D. There are a number of changes outside of the DSPLPF, and the low freq value changes to the other components on the LPF board are quite different from those of W9AC. We're not set up to support a mix of other changes to the board if they

Re: [Elecraft] DIY DSP Rev D

2009-12-31 Thread K6LE
On 12/31/2009, at 3:48 , David Lankshear wrote: For the overseas purchasers, the cheapest shipping appears to be $40, but put a note in the comments section asking Elecraft to send by cheapest means, like First Class Mail. It's not insured, but my friends and I have never had anything