On 12-04-23 01:44 PM, Allen Brier N5XZ wrote:
This, in an attempt to get the regulatory agency to void antenna
prohibitions by developers and Home Owners Associations. EP2C8Q208C8N
It would also help to pass along information about antenna use in relation
to amateur radio to the developers and
this is a waste of time as they (FCC) have no jurisdiction over local
laws which differ from community to community.
That is not true. Several years ago the FCC's OTARD (over the air
reception device) ruling overturned restrictions against television
antennas, satellite dishes, wireless
On 4/23/2012 11:45 AM, ron wrote:
RADIO LAW: HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS
this is a waste of time as they (FCC) have no jurisdiction over local
laws which differ from community to community.
Actually the FCC does have jurisdiction over local
While that may be true in some kind of libertarian fantasy land, in
reality the FCC (through PRB-1) and the rest of the federal government
has a wide range of authority which can impact (or invalidate) local
laws. This is why one can't legally buy a newly manufactured machine gun
in any state,
I'll not disagree with you but my view is more cynical. It's all
about the money. From what I see, many of the things in CCRs are
put there by the developer to ensure no one does anything to reduce
his ability to sell units for top dollar. Things like permitted
colors, no cars parked
PRB-1 is not a law. It was a recommendation to local jurisdictions that
they allow reasonable antenna accommodation for ham radio. When the FCC
acted to allow antennas for satellite TV, the commission chose not to
include ham radio.
In recent years, ham radio has proven itself so
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:
...Several years ago the FCC's OTARD (over the air
reception device) ruling overturned restrictions against television
antennas, satellite dishes, wireless internet antennas, etc. The
FCC (and any federal agency) has
Hi Joe:
My HOA had to add an addendum to it's rules to accommodate the use of
a dish up to 1 meter in diameter, per the FCC ruling. Prior to that,
the rules only permitted a dish up to 18 in diameter. Federal law
will always pre-empt state or local laws, including CCRs.
73 de Ray
K2ULR
On Apr 23, 2012, at 2:31 PM, David Christ wrote:
Once in place no Association is willing to
change them for fear of reducing values. Since they are so prevalent
in new developments and have been for many years it has the effect of
red lining for hams.
My experience with these things, is
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ANTENNAPROHIBITIONS
On Apr 23, 2012, at 2:31 PM, David Christ wrote:
Once in place no Association is willing to
change them for fear of reducing values. Since they are so prevalent
in new developments and have been for many years
The CCRs that are effectively shutting down Amateur Radio in many
residential areas desperately need to be superseded by the FCC. I would
also add that although towers and beams are nice, they really aren't
necessary for effective communication and in some situations aren't
advisable. In my
Thanks for jumping in, Phil.
I did not respond with comments because these private contracts do not
affect me - yet.
This is an established neighborhood with no HOA or CCRs, so no problem
putting up antennas.
In fact, my neighbor to the west is also a ham and has higher VHF
antennas than I
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Steve Reed ai...@arrl.net wrote:
...What the CCRs lack is reasonable accommodation -- for example, I
could easily string up a
multiband wire antenna...
I'm sure all hams would agree with Steve. A clarification of the existing
regs would
My XYL is a real estate broker here in Oregon and one of the things most
often found on a buyer's must have list for a home is *NO HOA*.
As a result, HOA's here tend to bring down the value of a property.
CCRs (Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions on what you can do with
property you buy)
Folks - This OT thread is exceeding our max posting quantity threshold.
Please take it to direct email.
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73,
Eric
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On 4/23/2012 3:16 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
My XYL is a real estate broker here in Oregon and one of the things
This thread (with a slightly different subject line) is also closed.
73,
Eric
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On 4/23/2012 2:40 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Steve Reedai...@arrl.net wrote:
...What the CCRs lack is reasonable
I have frequently seen real estate ads that actually say No HOAs as a
selling point. Just the opposite of what it was like 20 years ago or so.
On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
My XYL is a real estate broker here in Oregon and one of the things most
often found on a
On 4/23/2012 3:16 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
If your Realtor isn't helpful, contact
the company who insured your title to the property.
No Ron, find a new Realtor who is helpful
73,
Fred K6DGW
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