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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM

2017-07-21 Thread K9MA

I was able to get N1MM to work with the KX3 selection with my Windows 7 
desktop, but not with my older Windows 7 netbook.  That's still a 
mystery.  The KX2 utility worked fine on the netbook, but N1MM wouldn't 
communicate with the KX2 at all.


73,

Scott  K9MA


On 7/20/2017 12:09, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Ronnie,

Select the KX3 or if that is not present, select K3.
Note, no hyphens in Elecraft model numbers, it is "KX2" and not "KX-2".

Perhaps N1MM will offer a specific KX2 selection in the future. That 
is not something that Elecraft can add.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/20/2017 1:04 PM, w5...@comcast.net wrote:
I decided to purchase a small laptop to use on vacation with my KX2 
for both logging and rig control. I like N1MM and discovered this 
morning that the KX-2 is not in the selections of Elecraft products 
within n1mm


why is this? I can use just about any program for logging, but what 
program out there will actually run the KX-2?


hep me out here folks

Ronnie
W5SUM
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM

2017-07-20 Thread Chris Tate - N6WM

Ronnie,

As the gang has said you can use N1MM and select KX3 as the rig.

as a bonus, you may find these N1MM CW macros useful in your operation.  you 
can change the # (serial number) out with.. say Wherever you are, for instance 
5nn on Oahu HI.. or on SOTA NAXXX... and they can be very useful.

gl

F1 Cq,{CATA1ASC KY cq dx * *;}
F2 Snt,{CATA1ASC KY 5nn # #;}
F3 Tu,{CATA1ASC KY tu;}
F4 {MYCALL},{CATA1ASC KY *;}
F5 His Call,{CATA1ASC KY {call} ;}
F6 Repeat, {CATA1ASC KY # #;}
F7 Exch, {CATA1ASC KY #;}
F8 Agn?,{CATA1ASC KY agn? ;}
F9 Nr?,{CATA1ASC KY nr? ;}
F10 Call?,{CATA1ASC KY cl? ;}
F11 Break,{CATA1ASC RX;}
F12 Wipe,{WIPE}


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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM

I decided to purchase a small laptop to use on vacation with my KX2 for both 
logging and rig control. I like N1MM and discovered this morning that the KX-2 
is not in the selections of Elecraft products within n1mm

why is this? I can use just about any program for logging, but what program out 
there will actually run the KX-2?

hep me out here folks

Ronnie
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM

2017-07-20 Thread Don Wilhelm


Ronnie,

Select the KX3 or if that is not present, select K3.
Note, no hyphens in Elecraft model numbers, it is "KX2" and not "KX-2".

Perhaps N1MM will offer a specific KX2 selection in the future.  That is 
not something that Elecraft can add.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/20/2017 1:04 PM, w5...@comcast.net wrote:

I decided to purchase a small laptop to use on vacation with my KX2 for both 
logging and rig control. I like N1MM and discovered this morning that the KX-2 
is not in the selections of Elecraft products within n1mm

why is this? I can use just about any program for logging, but what program out 
there will actually run the KX-2?

hep me out here folks

Ronnie
W5SUM
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM

2017-07-20 Thread tomb18

Hi you should be able to select kx3 and it will work. 73 


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 Original message From: w5...@comcast.net Date: 2017-07-20  
1:04 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and 
N1MM 
I decided to purchase a small laptop to use on vacation with my KX2 for both 
logging and rig control. I like N1MM and discovered this morning that the KX-2 
is not in the selections of Elecraft products within n1mm

why is this? I can use just about any program for logging, but what program out 
there will actually run the KX-2?

hep me out here folks

Ronnie
W5SUM
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on N1MM+

2017-03-23 Thread Chris Tate - N6WM

No problem Linas!  Glad it worked out.  Catch you down the log and enjoy the 
coolest little rig out there!

73
Chris
N6WM

From: Irma & Linas(LY2H) [mailto:irmalina...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 6:20 AM
To: Chris Tate - N6WM <ct...@ewnetinc.com>; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on N1MM+

Chris,
Thanks a lot for your advice and the link to a great K4MTX site!  Problem 
solved now! Understanding the principals of this scrip writing I can create my 
own macros as I want them to, the CW comes smoothly to the KX2 and is 
transmitted to the air provided the VOX button is on. The only change- the ESC 
button doesn't work any more for stopping the TX but the F11 takes the job over!

I recommend this method  to all KX2 owners, thanks to this very knowledgable 
Elecrafters community!

73 de Linas LY2H

On 2017 kov. 23, kt at 03:01 Chris Tate - N6WM 
<ct...@ewnetinc.com<mailto:ct...@ewnetinc.com>> wrote:
Yes
Try these-- credit to K4MTX these work on the KX2 as well.
https://k4mtx.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/kx3-how-to-configure-n1mm-to-use-function-keys-to-send-cw-without-additional-cables-or-hardware-like-winkeyer/

F1 Cq,{CATA1ASC KY cqtest * *;}
F2 Snt,{CATA1ASC KY 5nn # #;}
F3 Tu,{CATA1ASC KY tu;}
F4 {MYCALL},{CATA1ASC KY *;}
F5 His Call,{CATA1ASC KY {call} ;}
F6 Repeat, {CATA1ASC KY # #;}
F7 Exch, {CATA1ASC KY #;}
F8 Agn?,{CATA1ASC KY agn? ;}
F9 Nr?,{CATA1ASC KY nr? ;}
F10 Call?,{CATA1ASC KY cl? ;}
F11 Break,{CATA1ASC RX;}
F12 Wipe,{WIPE}

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 On Behalf Of Irma & Linas(LY2H)
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:08 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on N1MM+

Hello group,

Is it correct that KX2 does not support the CW/PTT operation through the 
DTR/RTS ports? I have tried it out on the N1MM+ logger with no success. It does 
control the VFO, the band/mode change but no sending CW from the logger nor 
switchin PTT. My K3 which has the menu item for the DTR/RTS configuration is 
doing it all perfectly under the same logger configuration.
Is there any other way to get CW/PTT control on KX2 from the N1MM+ logger?
Thanks for the inputs!

73 Linas LY2H
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on N1MM+

2017-03-23 Thread Irma & Linas(LY2H)

Chris,
Thanks a lot for your advice and the link to a great K4MTX site!  Problem
solved now! Understanding the principals of this scrip writing I can create
my own macros as I want them to, the CW comes smoothly to the KX2 and is
transmitted to the air provided the VOX button is on. The only change- the
ESC button doesn't work any more for stopping the TX but the F11 takes the
job over!

I recommend this method  to all KX2 owners, thanks to this very
knowledgable Elecrafters community!

73 de Linas LY2H

On 2017 kov. 23, kt at 03:01 Chris Tate - N6WM  wrote:

> Yes
> Try these-- credit to K4MTX these work on the KX2 as well.
>
> https://k4mtx.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/kx3-how-to-configure-n1mm-to-use-function-keys-to-send-cw-without-additional-cables-or-hardware-like-winkeyer/
>
> F1 Cq,{CATA1ASC KY cqtest * *;}
> F2 Snt,{CATA1ASC KY 5nn # #;}
> F3 Tu,{CATA1ASC KY tu;}
> F4 {MYCALL},{CATA1ASC KY *;}
> F5 His Call,{CATA1ASC KY {call} ;}
> F6 Repeat, {CATA1ASC KY # #;}
> F7 Exch, {CATA1ASC KY #;}
> F8 Agn?,{CATA1ASC KY agn? ;}
> F9 Nr?,{CATA1ASC KY nr? ;}
> F10 Call?,{CATA1ASC KY cl? ;}
> F11 Break,{CATA1ASC RX;}
> F12 Wipe,{WIPE}
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Irma & Linas(LY2H)
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:08 PM
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on N1MM+
>
> Hello group,
>
> Is it correct that KX2 does not support the CW/PTT operation through the
> DTR/RTS ports? I have tried it out on the N1MM+ logger with no success. It
> does control the VFO, the band/mode change but no sending CW from the
> logger nor switchin PTT. My K3 which has the menu item for the DTR/RTS
> configuration is doing it all perfectly under the same logger configuration.
> Is there any other way to get CW/PTT control on KX2 from the N1MM+ logger?
> Thanks for the inputs!
>
> 73 Linas LY2H
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on N1MM+

2017-03-22 Thread Chris Tate - N6WM

Yes 
Try these-- credit to K4MTX these work on the KX2 as well.
https://k4mtx.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/kx3-how-to-configure-n1mm-to-use-function-keys-to-send-cw-without-additional-cables-or-hardware-like-winkeyer/

F1 Cq,{CATA1ASC KY cqtest * *;}
F2 Snt,{CATA1ASC KY 5nn # #;}
F3 Tu,{CATA1ASC KY tu;}
F4 {MYCALL},{CATA1ASC KY *;}
F5 His Call,{CATA1ASC KY {call} ;}
F6 Repeat, {CATA1ASC KY # #;}
F7 Exch, {CATA1ASC KY #;}
F8 Agn?,{CATA1ASC KY agn? ;}
F9 Nr?,{CATA1ASC KY nr? ;}
F10 Call?,{CATA1ASC KY cl? ;}
F11 Break,{CATA1ASC RX;} 
F12 Wipe,{WIPE}


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Irma & 
Linas(LY2H)
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:08 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on N1MM+

Hello group,

Is it correct that KX2 does not support the CW/PTT operation through the 
DTR/RTS ports? I have tried it out on the N1MM+ logger with no success. It does 
control the VFO, the band/mode change but no sending CW from the logger nor 
switchin PTT. My K3 which has the menu item for the DTR/RTS configuration is 
doing it all perfectly under the same logger configuration.
Is there any other way to get CW/PTT control on KX2 from the N1MM+ logger?
Thanks for the inputs!

73 Linas LY2H
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-12 Thread Jim GM

Thanks for all the help. The Repeat delay is now fixed.

Part of the problem was the timing and not enough space.

The majority of the problem was with what as typed in for the the different F 
keys. Very touchy on how or what was typed. Once all the errors and bugs were 
fixed the Repeat delay started to work so then I proceeded to set that up with 
the rights times.

Jim K9TF

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-10 Thread Jim GM

Here is a correction from last post

Erase the <04> in the F# lines that has it. This controls the CW speed which 
does not work on the KX2 or KX3.

Jim K9TF

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-10 Thread Chester Alderman

If you READ the documentation, you would find that 'repeat CQ'ing' has been
a function of N1MM and M1MM+ for many years!

Tom - W4BQF


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Frantz
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 6:16 PM
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

Being very lazy, I would like repeat CQ for SOTA activations, or almost any
CQing. Pretty much anything but running a pileup. YMMV.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 7/10/16 at 1:52 PM, k...@comcast.net (K5WA) wrote:

>Since the repeat function is generally used in a contest for repetitive 
>CQing and a KX2 is not going to be a heavy duty contest radio, this is 
>probably only going to affect a very few folks BUT here's how I work 
>around the repeat issue (since I'm on the crazy fringe):
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-10 Thread Jim GM

I finally got the functions to work mostly.  On my KX2 and KX3
Here is what I did. It seams I got rid of most of the funkiness due to spaces 
in the wrong place and so on.

Pay attention to S F1 with out the {S} when hitting the  F1 key it would 
send properly then switch back to Run so it was necessary to put it in.

 Jim K9TF

###
#   RUN Messages 
###
F1 CQ,{CATA1ASC KY TEST * * ;}
F2 Exch,{CATA1ASC KY TU {SENTRSTCUT} {EXCH} K <04>;}
F3 Tu,{CATA1ASC KY Tu * * <04>;}
F4 K9TF,{CATA1ASC KY * <04>;}
F5 His Call,{CATA1ASC KY {CALL}?;}
F6 Repeat,{CATA1ASC KY {SENTRSTCUT} {EXCH} {EXCH};}
F7 ?,{CATA1ASC KY ? ?;}
F8 Agn?,{CATA1ASC KY Agn?;}
F9 S&,{{CATA1ASC KY {S};}
F10 Call?,{CATA1ASC KY Cl?;}
F11 Break,{CATA1ASC KY {RX};}
F12 Wipe,{WIPE}
#
###
#   S Messages 
###
F1 Qrl?,{{S}CATA1ASC KY Qrl ? de {MYCALL};}
F2 Exch,{CATA1ASC KY TU {SENTRSTCUT} {EXCH};}
F3 Tu,{CATA1ASC KY {CALL} Tu EE;}
F4 K9TF,{CATA1ASC KY * <04>;}
F5 His Call,{CATA1ASC KY {CALL};}
F6 Repeat,{CATA1ASC KY {SENTRSTCUT} {EXCH} {EXCH};}
F7 ?,{CATA1ASC KY ? ?;}
F8 Agn?,{CATA1ASC KY agn?;}
F9 Nr?,{CATA1ASC KY Nr?;}
F10 Call?,{CATA1ASC KY Call?;}
F11 Break,{CATA1ASC KY RX;}
F12 Wipe,{WIPE}
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-10 Thread Bill Frantz

Being very lazy, I would like repeat CQ for SOTA activations, or 
almost any CQing. Pretty much anything but running a pileup. YMMV.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 7/10/16 at 1:52 PM, k...@comcast.net (K5WA) wrote:


Since the repeat function is generally used in a contest for
repetitive CQing and a KX2 is not going to be a heavy duty contest radio,
this is probably only going to affect a very few folks BUT here's how I work
around the repeat issue (since I'm on the crazy fringe):

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-10 Thread K5WA

Jim,
 
The repeat time setting is actually doing something but it depends on an
"end of message" bit to be sent which isn't done when an ASCII stream is
transferred.  Since the repeat function is generally used in a contest for
repetitive CQing and a KX2 is not going to be a heavy duty contest radio,
this is probably only going to affect a very few folks BUT here's how I work
around the repeat issue (since I'm on the crazy fringe):
 
1)  Assume a constant CW sending rate; say 30 WPM. (or whatever you are
normally comfortable with during a contest)
2)  Time your message to see how many seconds it takes to send.  (let's
assume 5 seconds)
3)  Take the message length (in seconds) and add the delay you want (in
seconds).  (If you want a 3 second delay, add 3 to the 5)
4)  Put the total seconds derived from bullet 3 into the N1MM repeat
timing slot. (Put 8 seconds in the repeat selection)
5)  Works like a charm but only for that CW WPM.  Slower WPM would
require seconds added and faster would subtract seconds from the repeat
setting.
 
Sending speed would be controlled by the KX2 since the ASCII stream is just
getting dumped into the serial port at 38,400 baud (or whatever baud rate
you choose).  I generally don't change my CQ sending speed more than 2-4 WPM
so a nice compromise delay time could be found experimentally that would
satisfy most situation.  Additionally, the N1MM delay can be adjusted with 2
key strokes (Ctrl-R then number entry) as a message is sending so it is very
user friendly if you need to adjust on the fly.
 
I see this as a very personal situation though.  A crazy contester (like me)
is going to figure a workaround for just about anything if he is motivated
to enter a contest while up a perfectly good mountain playing radio while
his wife is wondering why he isn't enjoying the view with her.  The repeat
function and N1MM speed adjustments can be left behind in most KX2
situations but where there's will, there's a way.  ;-) 
 
YMMV
 
Bob K5WA
 
P.S.  I took my new KX2 to my contest station this weekend and plugged it
into the BIG antennas prior to the IARU contest to make a few contacts.  The
KX2 loved that!  ;-)   I think it got spoiled and will never let me hook up
a BuddiPole to it again.  I never got a KX3 because I thought it was too big
but this KX2 is my idea of perfection for traveling, hiking or whatever you
need a tiny, great rig for.  I may actually have to figure out what NPOTA is
all about now.  Thanks to Wayne and the team
 
 
 
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Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 01:01:44 -0500
From: Jim GM <jim.gmfo...@gmail.com>
To: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys
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Here are the other issues. The CQ Repeat function has no Pause like 5
seconds then starts.? The Repeat Time setting Does not do any thing that I
have noticed. 
?
Also CW speed control does not work. I works manually when I turn the knob
on the KX2 and 3.
 
 
Jim K9TF
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-09 Thread Richard Ferch

"The thing kept switching from Run mode to S when I left the program to
browse on the web for a bit then I switched back I had to switch it back to
Run": The N1MM+ program automatically switches from Run to S whenever you
QSY by more than a user-adjustable frequency tolerance. If you
inadvertently or intentionally moved the tuning knob on the radio while you
were off doing something else, that would switch the program from Run to
S

If you want to start running on a new frequency after going off and doing
something else, simply press the F1 (CQ) key. In addition to sending your
CQ message, this automatically switches the program from S to Run mode.

"The CQ Repeat function has no pause ... The Repeat Time setting does not
do anything ...": I'm betting that you are using the CAT1ASC macro with KY
commands to send CW. This CW keying method is not supported by N1MM+. It
works, sort of, but there are several features of N1MM+ that do not work
properly, or at all, with this method. One of these is that the CQ repeat
time has to be set long enough to include the entire duration of the CQ
message plus the pause between messages, not just the desired pause time as
it would with a supported keying method. Try a really long repeat time,
then experiment with shortening it until you get a reasonable duration of
the pause between messages - but recognize that every time you change CW
speeds, you will have to adjust the repeat time as well.

"CW speed control does not work": If you are using the KY command method,
that's correct, it doesn't. That's one of the program features that do not
work with this unsupported keying method.

There is a list of shortcomings of the KY command method of CW keying from
N1MM+ in the N1MM+ documentation. Go to n1mm.com, click on Documents > 2.
Digging Deeper, then select Chapter 5.1 Serial Parallel and Sound Card
Interfacing and on that page select section 3.2 Choosing your CW Method -
or just go directly to <
http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Serial+Parallel+and+Sound+Card+Interfacing=N1MM+Logger+Documentation#Choosing_Your_CW_Method>.
If you can live with all of these, fine. If you want to use N1MM+ and you
cannot live without one or more of the features in the list, you will have
to do what it takes to implement one of the supported CW keying methods.

73,
Rich VE3KI
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-09 Thread Chester Alderman

Well Jim from your comments it seems pretty obvious that you need to read some 
of the very comprehensive documentation for N1MM+. My CW speed control always 
works correct by using the PageUp and PageDown keys. The CQ Repeat pause 
function is set in the Config menu, by the USER! It is probably best that you 
take this topic to the N1MM+ reflector where you will find excellent support; 
however N1MM+ is a very comprehensive contest program and new users MUST read 
the setup documentation to get the program running correct and to understand 
how the program works.

73,
Tom - W4BQF


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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 2:02 AM
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

Here are the other issues. The CQ Repeat function has no Pause like 5 seconds 
then starts.  The Repeat Time setting Does not do any thing that I have 
noticed. 
 
Also CW speed control does not work. I works manually when I turn the knob on 
the KX2 and 3.


Jim K9TF

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-09 Thread Jim GM

Here are the other issues. The CQ Repeat function has no Pause like 5 seconds 
then starts.  The Repeat Time setting Does not do any thing that I have 
noticed. 
 
Also CW speed control does not work. I works manually when I turn the knob on 
the KX2 and 3.


Jim K9TF

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-08 Thread Jim GM

No Running N1MM Logger +
I am running KX3 and KX2 with Windows 10 on a Surface 3 is what I am running.

Also running the same 2 radios on RumLog on my Apple computer.  ZNo problems 
with the Apple.

Just maybe it might no be the N1MM but Windows 10.  If other people have the 
same issues then It still maybe N1MM.

May have to  switch to N3FJP Logging program and use Win4K3 he is working on 
the KX2 update.

Jim K9TF

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-08 Thread Chester Alderman

Hi Jim,

N1MM is not even supported anymore! If that is what you are using, you are
making a mistake? N1MM Plus, which was released in early 2014 is the current
supported contest program and it has thousands of very happy users, all with
various PC's and rigs, and the program has been acclaimed as being one of
the best contest programs. I have been using N1MM + for many years with both
of my K3's and the ONLY problem I have had with it has always been
self-induced user issues. If you enjoy contesting with Elecraft (and most
any other manufacturer's equipment) you would find extremely good support
from the authors of N1MM Plus. Just bad-mouthing a good product produces a
dim view of the writer.

73,
Tom - W4BQF



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Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 3:10 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

It is not the radio but the N1MM program. Not only does my KX2 react that
way so does my KX3.

Baud rate does not matter. I think N1MM is a bit unstable on my Microsoft
Surface 3.  I run RumLog on my Apple computer and both radios work just
fine.

I used N1MM for the 13 colonies over the 4th of July.  The N1MM gave issues
when it first started and with a bit prompting started to work just fine.
The thing kept switching from  Run mode to S  when I left the program to
brows on the web for a bit then I switched back I had to switch it back to
Run. It then operated a bit funky then settled down again..  it could be a
sync issue that  N1MM has.

I like contesting and with this NEW Surface 3 I have could be fun if I had a
stable logging program to run.

Jim K9TF

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-08 Thread Jim GM

It is not the radio but the N1MM program. Not only does my KX2 react that way 
so does my KX3.

Baud rate does not matter. I think N1MM is a bit unstable on my Microsoft 
Surface 3.  I run RumLog on my Apple computer and both radios work just fine.

I used N1MM for the 13 colonies over the 4th of July.  The N1MM gave issues 
when it first started and with a bit prompting started to work just fine. The 
thing kept switching from  Run mode to S  when I left the program to brows on 
the web for a bit then I switched back I had to switch it back to Run. It then 
operated a bit funky then settled down again..  it could be a sync issue that  
N1MM has.

I like contesting and with this NEW Surface 3 I have could be fun if I had a 
stable logging program to run.

Jim K9TF

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-07 Thread Joe Moffatt

Nevermind, I withdraw that question… I see it was answered earlier.


From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe 
Moffatt
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 12:24 PM
To: Ryan Noguchi <ai...@yahoo.com>
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

Speaking of this… Using N1MM… is it possible to hit the ESC key and stop 
sending whatever has been sent already?

This is forcing me to use a Winkeyer and not the KY keys with my KX3…. There 
are times you need to stop a transmission.

Joe


From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ryan 
Noguchi via Elecraft
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 10:54 AM
To: elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net><mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net%3e>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

Can Elecraft or any other knowledgeable individual explain why the KY commands 
are limited to 24 characters?
This limitation seems to come up in this list or the KX3 Yahoo list about once 
a month, but I've never seen (or found through searching the wider web) an 
explanation of what drives the 24 character limit. I'm pretty sure I'm not the 
only one who could use any larger character limit, even if it's just a few 
additional characters.
73, Ryan AI6DO

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Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

From my own experience, KY commands work but are clumsy, and there is a l limit 
to how many characters can be sent with one command, The simple switching 
circuit is quite easy to do and works extremely well,

All it takes is a 2N transistor with base connected to the proper pin (4 or 
7) thru a 1.2K (1k -1.5K) Ohm resistor, The collector goes to the plug shield 
and the emitter goes to the tip of the plug.

Plug this into the standard KUSB or standard serial cable.

…bc nr4c

> On Jul 7, 2016, at 10:26 AM, K5WA 
> <k...@comcast.net><mailto:k...@comcast.net%3e><mailto:k...@comcast.net%3e><mailto:k...@comcast.net%3e%3e>
>  wrote:
>
> Fred,
>
> One tap of the paddle stops transmission when using KY so you really don't
> need ESC.
>
> Bob K5WA
>
> From: Cady, Fred [mailto:fc...@montana.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 7:15 AM
> To: K5WA; 
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net><mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net><mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net%3e>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys
>
> When using KY commands in N1MM does hitting escape stop the transmission?
> If no, that would be a disadvantage to me. A couple of transistor switches,
> actually just one because you don't need PTT usually, is pretty easy to
> build. There are lots of examples of circuits out there.
> Cheers,
> Fred KE7X
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-07 Thread Joe Moffatt

Speaking of this… Using N1MM…  is it possible to hit the ESC key and stop 
sending whatever has been sent already?

This is forcing me to use a Winkeyer and not the KY keys with my KX3…. There 
are times you need to stop a transmission.

Joe


From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ryan 
Noguchi via Elecraft
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 10:54 AM
To: elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

Can Elecraft or any other knowledgeable individual explain why the KY commands 
are limited to 24 characters?
This limitation seems to come up in this list or the KX3 Yahoo list about once 
a month, but I've never seen (or found through searching the wider web) an 
explanation of what drives the 24 character limit. I'm pretty sure I'm not the 
only one who could use any larger character limit, even if it's just a few 
additional characters.
73, Ryan AI6DO

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Cc: elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net><mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net%3e>
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

From my own experience, KY commands work but are clumsy, and there is a l limit 
to how many characters can be sent with one command,  The simple switching 
circuit is quite easy to do and works extremely well,

All it takes is a 2N transistor with base connected to the proper pin (4 or 
7) thru a 1.2K (1k -1.5K) Ohm resistor,  The collector goes to the plug shield 
and the emitter goes to the tip of the plug.

Plug this into the standard KUSB or standard serial cable.

…bc nr4c

> On Jul 7, 2016, at 10:26 AM, K5WA 
> <k...@comcast.net><mailto:k...@comcast.net%3e> wrote:
>
> Fred,
>
> One tap of the paddle stops transmission when using KY so you really don't
> need ESC.
>
> Bob K5WA
>
> From: Cady, Fred [mailto:fc...@montana.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 7:15 AM
> To: K5WA; elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys
>
> When using KY commands in N1MM does hitting escape stop the transmission?
> If no, that would be a disadvantage to me.  A couple of transistor switches,
> actually just one because you don't need PTT usually, is pretty easy to
> build.  There are lots of examples of circuits out there.
> Cheers,
> Fred KE7X
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-07 Thread Ryan Noguchi via Elecraft

Can Elecraft or any other knowledgeable individual explain why the KY commands 
are limited to 24 characters? 
This limitation seems to come up in this list or the KX3 Yahoo list about once 
a month, but I've never seen (or found through searching the wider web) an 
explanation of what drives the 24 character limit. I'm pretty sure I'm not the 
only one who could use any larger character limit, even if it's just a few 
additional characters.  
73, Ryan AI6DO

  From: Bill Conkling <n...@widomaker.com>
 To: K5WA <k...@comcast.net> 
Cc: elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
 Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 7:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys
   
From my own experience, KY commands work but are clumsy, and there is a l limit 
to how many characters can be sent with one command,  The simple switching 
circuit is quite easy to do and works extremely well,  

All it takes is a 2N transistor with base connected to the proper pin (4 or 
7) thru a 1.2K (1k -1.5K) Ohm resistor,  The collector goes to the plug shield 
and the emitter goes to the tip of the plug.

Plug this into the standard KUSB or standard serial cable.

…bc nr4c

> On Jul 7, 2016, at 10:26 AM, K5WA <k...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Fred,
> 
> One tap of the paddle stops transmission when using KY so you really don't
> need ESC.  
> 
> Bob K5WA
> 
> From: Cady, Fred [mailto:fc...@montana.edu] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 7:15 AM
> To: K5WA; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys
> 
> When using KY commands in N1MM does hitting escape stop the transmission?
> If no, that would be a disadvantage to me.  A couple of transistor switches,
> actually just one because you don't need PTT usually, is pretty easy to
> build.  There are lots of examples of circuits out there.
> Cheers,
> Fred KE7X
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-07 Thread Bill Conkling

From my own experience, KY commands work but are clumsy, and there is a l limit 
to how many characters can be sent with one command,  The simple switching 
circuit is quite easy to do and works extremely well,  

All it takes is a 2N transistor with base connected to the proper pin (4 or 
7) thru a 1.2K (1k -1.5K) Ohm resistor,  The collector goes to the plug shield 
and the emitter goes to the tip of the plug.

Plug this into the standard KUSB or standard serial cable.

…bc nr4c

> On Jul 7, 2016, at 10:26 AM, K5WA <k...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Fred,
> 
> One tap of the paddle stops transmission when using KY so you really don't
> need ESC.  
> 
> Bob K5WA
> 
> From: Cady, Fred [mailto:fc...@montana.edu] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 7:15 AM
> To: K5WA; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys
> 
> When using KY commands in N1MM does hitting escape stop the transmission?
> If no, that would be a disadvantage to me.  A couple of transistor switches,
> actually just one because you don't need PTT usually, is pretty easy to
> build.  There are lots of examples of circuits out there.
> Cheers,
> Fred KE7X
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-07 Thread K5WA

Fred,

One tap of the paddle stops transmission when using KY so you really don't
need ESC.  

Bob K5WA

From: Cady, Fred [mailto:fc...@montana.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 7:15 AM
To: K5WA; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

When using KY commands in N1MM does hitting escape stop the transmission?
If no, that would be a disadvantage to me.  A couple of transistor switches,
actually just one because you don't need PTT usually, is pretty easy to
build.  There are lots of examples of circuits out there.
Cheers,
Fred KE7X

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-07 Thread Richard Ferch

Fred Cady KE7X wrote:

> When using KY commands in N1MM does hitting escape stop the transmission?

No, it does not. This is only one of several limitations of this method in
N1MM+ - see <
http://n1mmplus.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Serial+Parallel+and+Sound+Card+Interfacing#Choosing_Your_CW_Method>
for a list.

73,
Rich VE3KI
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-07 Thread Cady, Fred

When using KY commands in N1MM does hitting escape stop the transmission?  If 
no, that would be a disadvantage to me.  A couple of transistor switches, 
actually just one because you don't need PTT usually, is pretty easy to build.  
There are lots of examples of circuits out there.

Cheers,

Fred KE7X





From: Elecraft  on behalf of K5WA 

Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 9:01 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

I forgot who I responded to about setting up a KX2 with N1MM and a single
USB cable recently but I need to revise my answer.  The answer I gave
assumed the DTR/RTS lines were assignable to CW or PTT like the K3 does
however since the KX2 (like the KX3, I believe) doesn't have DTR/RTS lines
assignable in the rig, you need to send ASCII streams to the KX2 in order to
use F-keys within N1MM.  I just got my new KX2 today (love it!!) and started
playing with it when I discovered there weren't any DTR/RTS signals to use.
A way to send ASCII streams via F-keys with N1MM (and probably other contest
software F keys) is to follow the examples below and write whatever messages
you want once you've gotten the basic {CATA1ASC KY   ;} piece in place.
These are a few messages I started playing with so you can see some
possibilities but the permutations are endless to get exactly what you want.
The only downside I found was that I can't use N1MM's "autosend" feature
(which is meant to save you from having to hit the enter key every time).
I like autosend set at 2 characters past the number but when I try to use
it, the calls over 2 characters past the number get mangled when being sent.
I'm guessing that the ASCII string is interrupted once the rig switches to
transmit and therefore the call sending is mangled.  Maybe there is a
workaround that I have not discovered yet but I doubt many folks are going
to be doing lots of contesting with a KX2 anyway so it really isn't much of
a downside.  I can imagine I'll be on a business trip or a vacation trip and
want to toss out a few contacts to the serious contesters using my
mini-notebook and KX2 so hitting enter won't be too big a hassle.  ;-)

Hope this helps someone but I have not extensively checked each one of the
entries below so play with yours to get it right if I made a mistake.  Most
should be right though as I played around in a simulated contest to get
these working.

Bob K5WA


F1 CQ,{CATA1ASC KY k5wa k5wa test;}
F2 EXCH,{CATA1ASC KY ! {EXCH};}
F3 TU,{CATA1ASC KY tu * test {CLEARRIT};}
F4 His Call,{CATA1ASC KY!;}
F5 K5WA,{CATA1ASC KY *;}
F6 AGN,{CATA1ASC KY agn?;}
F7 ?,{CATA1ASC KY ?;}
F8 ?,{CATA1ASC KY ?;}
F9 S&,{CATA1ASC KY{S};}
F10 Call & Exc,{CATA1ASC KY{!} {EXCH};}
F11 CQ (long),{CATA1ASC KY CQ CQ TEST K5WA K5WA;}
F12 Wipe,{CATA1ASC KY{WIPE};}
#
###
#   S Messages
###
F1 Qrl?,{CATA1ASC KY QRL? K5WA;}
F2 Exch,{CATA1ASC KY 5nn {EXCH};}
F3 Tu,{CATA1ASC KY{!} tu{LOG};}
F4 His Call,{CATA1ASC KY{!};}
F5 K5WA,{CATA1ASC KY K5WA;}
F6 AGN,{CATA1ASC KY ?;}
F7 ?,{CATA1ASC KY ?;}
F8 ?,{CATA1ASC KY ?;}
F9 RUN,{CATA1ASC KY {RUN};}
F10 Call & Exc,{CATA1ASC KY{!} {EXCH};}
F11
F12 Wipe,{CATA1ASC KY{WIPE};}
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys

2016-07-06 Thread Bill Conkling

You can build a pair of simple transistor witches into a DE-9 shell and add 
cables for TX, RX, DTR, and RTS with the proper plugs and it will “look” like a 
K3 to your software.

…bill nr4c

> On Jul 6, 2016, at 11:01 PM, K5WA  wrote:
> 
> I forgot who I responded to about setting up a KX2 with N1MM and a single
> USB cable recently but I need to revise my answer.  The answer I gave
> assumed the DTR/RTS lines were assignable to CW or PTT like the K3 does
> however since the KX2 (like the KX3, I believe) doesn't have DTR/RTS lines
> assignable in the rig, you need to send ASCII streams to the KX2 in order to
> use F-keys within N1MM.  I just got my new KX2 today (love it!!) and started
> playing with it when I discovered there weren't any DTR/RTS signals to use.
> A way to send ASCII streams via F-keys with N1MM (and probably other contest
> software F keys) is to follow the examples below and write whatever messages
> you want once you've gotten the basic {CATA1ASC KY   ;} piece in place.
> These are a few messages I started playing with so you can see some
> possibilities but the permutations are endless to get exactly what you want.
> The only downside I found was that I can't use N1MM's "autosend" feature
> (which is meant to save you from having to hit the enter key every time).
> I like autosend set at 2 characters past the number but when I try to use
> it, the calls over 2 characters past the number get mangled when being sent.
> I'm guessing that the ASCII string is interrupted once the rig switches to
> transmit and therefore the call sending is mangled.  Maybe there is a
> workaround that I have not discovered yet but I doubt many folks are going
> to be doing lots of contesting with a KX2 anyway so it really isn't much of
> a downside.  I can imagine I'll be on a business trip or a vacation trip and
> want to toss out a few contacts to the serious contesters using my
> mini-notebook and KX2 so hitting enter won't be too big a hassle.  ;-)
> 
> Hope this helps someone but I have not extensively checked each one of the
> entries below so play with yours to get it right if I made a mistake.  Most
> should be right though as I played around in a simulated contest to get
> these working.
> 
> Bob K5WA
> 
> 
> F1 CQ,{CATA1ASC KY k5wa k5wa test;}
> F2 EXCH,{CATA1ASC KY ! {EXCH};}
> F3 TU,{CATA1ASC KY tu * test {CLEARRIT};}
> F4 His Call,{CATA1ASC KY!;}
> F5 K5WA,{CATA1ASC KY *;}
> F6 AGN,{CATA1ASC KY agn?;}
> F7 ?,{CATA1ASC KY ?;}
> F8 ?,{CATA1ASC KY ?;}
> F9 S&,{CATA1ASC KY{S};}
> F10 Call & Exc,{CATA1ASC KY{!} {EXCH};}
> F11 CQ (long),{CATA1ASC KY CQ CQ TEST K5WA K5WA;}
> F12 Wipe,{CATA1ASC KY{WIPE};}
> #
> ###
> #   S Messages 
> ###
> F1 Qrl?,{CATA1ASC KY QRL? K5WA;} 
> F2 Exch,{CATA1ASC KY 5nn {EXCH};}
> F3 Tu,{CATA1ASC KY{!} tu{LOG};}
> F4 His Call,{CATA1ASC KY{!};}
> F5 K5WA,{CATA1ASC KY K5WA;}
> F6 AGN,{CATA1ASC KY ?;}
> F7 ?,{CATA1ASC KY ?;}
> F8 ?,{CATA1ASC KY ?;}
> F9 RUN,{CATA1ASC KY {RUN};}
> F10 Call & Exc,{CATA1ASC KY{!} {EXCH};}
> F11 
> F12 Wipe,{CATA1ASC KY{WIPE};}
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