Re: [Orgmode] manual missing variable org-use-fast-todo-selection

2009-03-22 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Mar 22, 2009, at 3:24 AM, Eraldo Helal wrote:


Salve!

The variable org-use-fast-todo-selection is missing in the manual.


The manual lists only some variables, not all of them.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] Latex export bugs and a request

2009-03-22 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Mar 21, 2009, at 9:32 PM, Matthew Lundin wrote:


Hi Carsten,

Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes:


I have worked on this part of the LaTeX exporter. Among other things,
I now export these headers as an itemize list by default, parallel to
the HTML exporter.

You can customize org-export-latex-low-levels to specify what exactly
you want, you can get description or enumerate lists as well.

Let me know if the problems now go away.


Thanks ever so much. This is a very nice addition.

I saw a small issue in defcustom for org-export-latex-low-levels (see
below).


Thanks for catching this.  Fixed, thanks.

- Carsten




Best,
Matt

--8---cut here---start-8---
diff --git a/lisp/org-export-latex.el b/lisp/org-export-latex.el
index a09aff6..f852084 100644
--- a/lisp/org-export-latex.el
+++ b/lisp/org-export-latex.el
@@ -227,8 +227,8 @@ the %s stands here for the inserted headline and  
is mandatory.

  :group 'org-export-latex
  :type '(choice (const :tag Ignore nil)
 (symbol :tag Convert as descriptive list description)
-(symbol :tag Convert as descriptive list itemize)
-(symbol :tag Convert as descriptive list enumerate)
+(symbol :tag Convert as itemized list itemize)
+(symbol :tag Convert as enumerated list enumerate)
 (string :tag Use a section string :value 
\\subparagraph{%s})))

(defcustom org-export-latex-list-parameters
--8---cut here---end---8---


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Re: [Orgmode] [ANN] OS X only: Insert links to flagged emails

2009-03-22 Thread Christopher Suckling


On 21 Mar 2009, at 13:25, Carsten Dominik wrote:



On Mar 21, 2009, at 12:22 AM, Christopher Suckling wrote:



On 20 Mar 2009, at 21:13, Carsten Dominik wrote:


Hi Christopher,

this is nice!  Maybe we could integrate it into org-mac-message.el?

- Carsten


Thanks. I'd be delighted for it to be integrated into org-mac- 
message.el. Would you like me to put a patch together, or would you  
prefer to manage the integration yourself?


I would be glad if you could provide a patch.



Attached is the patch.

A thought: at present there are some optional lines (commented out by  
default) that make calls to Growl (http://growl.info) to provide more  
tactile feedback during the sometimes lengthy synchronous search made  
by AppleScript. Growl, however, is under a BSD license. Can these  
lines be included in Emacs?


Christopher



org-mac-message.patch
Description: Binary data


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[Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

2009-03-22 Thread Brad Bozarth
Hi! I'm new to org-mode, but knew I had to use it when I combined a
desire to try GTD with my ctrl-s view of the world.

I'm ok with processing tethered to a computer, but wanted an easy way
to capture on the move, without adding anything to my pocket. A couple
days of hacking later (with some real *hacks*, but they work), and
I've got something I really like.

I can now, using either the iphone keyboard or my voice, quickly
capture something, and know that it will shortly be sitting as a TODO
under iPhone inbox in my gtd.org file that is git synchronized
between all my computers. I put it together with a cron'd shell
script, two awk scripts, and the free Reqall iPhone app. Could be
done more elegantly, but then I wouldn't be Getting (other) Things
Done :). I can share the hacks if anyone is interested.

-brad


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Re: [Orgmode] manual missing variable org-use-fast-todo-selection

2009-03-22 Thread Eraldo Helal
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 07:58, Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nlwrote:


 On Mar 22, 2009, at 3:24 AM, Eraldo Helal wrote:

  Salve!

 The variable org-use-fast-todo-selection is missing in the manual.


 The manual lists only some variables, not all of them.

 - Carsten


Oh, okay :)
I just read a post on the mailing list: 2009-01-29

 and got 378 as an answer.  378 user-customizable variables,
 no kidding.

No it's clear to me why this is the case.

Thanks,
Greetings,
Eraldo
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Re: [Orgmode] blorg??

2009-03-22 Thread Matthew Lundin
Hi Rustom,

Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com writes:

 I have a team of some 4-5 programmers.

 They've started sending me their reports in org format.
 I was considering the next step of making them blog rather than use
 mail for their reports and was wondering if blorg.el is the way to go.
 (Gather that blorg is not really stable)

Any current blorg users care to comment? 

 Any other suggestions (org-oddmuse.el??)

I just discovered that there is ruby blog engine in development that
uses org files as a back end:

- http://github.com/eschulte/blorgit/tree/master

(Looks really promising, Eric!)

Best,
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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

2009-03-22 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Mar 22, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Brad Bozarth wrote:


Hi! I'm new to org-mode, but knew I had to use it when I combined a
desire to try GTD with my ctrl-s view of the world.

I'm ok with processing tethered to a computer, but wanted an easy way
to capture on the move, without adding anything to my pocket. A couple
days of hacking later (with some real *hacks*, but they work), and
I've got something I really like.

I can now, using either the iphone keyboard or my voice, quickly
capture something, and know that it will shortly be sitting as a TODO
under iPhone inbox in my gtd.org file that is git synchronized
between all my computers. I put it together with a cron'd shell
script, two awk scripts, and the free Reqall iPhone app. Could be
done more elegantly, but then I wouldn't be Getting (other) Things
Done :). I can share the hacks if anyone is interested.


I want to know *everything* about this.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] blorg??

2009-03-22 Thread Alex Ott
Hello all

 ML == Matthew Lundin writes:
 ML Hi Rustom, Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com writes:
  I have a team of some 4-5 programmers.
  
  They've started sending me their reports in org format.  I was
  considering the next step of making them blog rather than use mail for
  their reports and was wondering if blorg.el is the way to go.  (Gather
  that blorg is not really stable)

 ML Any current blorg users care to comment?

I slightly hacked blorg to allow to use relative links, proper symbols
escaping in links, etc. (and i dropped copying of data into directories
inside publish).  My version is available from
http://xtalk.msk.su/~ott/common/emacs/blorg.el


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Re: [Orgmode] blorg??

2009-03-22 Thread David Bremner

Rustom Mody wrote:

They've started sending me their reports in org format.  I was
considering the next step of making them blog rather than use mail
for their reports and was wondering if blorg.el is the way to
go. (Gather that blorg is not really stable) Any other suggestions
(org-oddmuse.el??)

As I think mentioned once before on the list, you can use the Org
backend by Manoj Srivastava with ikiwiki. Ikiwiki can use git as a
backend, so that might give you a nice way for people to file reports.
It works fine for me (I mostly use it to insert tables into markdown
documents).

d



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Re: [Orgmode] a small remember suggestion

2009-03-22 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Mar 22, 2009, at 3:01 AM, Alan E. Davis wrote:

[I am reposting this to the list, as I'd intended.  IOt turned out  
I'd responded only to the OP.]



I posted regarding this problem in an earlier thread about losing  
relatively large and complex *remember* buffers that I had forgotten  
to save (C-c C-c).  My usage has improved, and this has been much  
less of a problem; however, after another, particularly painful  
incident, I am again studying this problem.   I have tested two  
solutions that were presented earlier, but neither one of them  
specifically solves this problem.  Each of them is a workaround, and  
either one is acceptable as such, but requires certain adjustments,  
albeit this is only slightly annoying;  I can learn to work around  
them if need be.


I  may not have elucidated the problem clearly in the original  
post.  I use remember every day, and have at least 50 different  
templates.  I have gotten used to saving the notes with C-c C-c each  
time; however, when I'm working late, am a bit tired, or the stress  
from work has gotten to me, I might---as I did yesterday---spend a  
couple of hours studying a problem and make a complex table of the  
partition structure of my machine, only to realize after I had  
changed buffers a couple of times, and used remember at least once  
more, only to discover that the I had failed to save the *remember*  
template buffer.  Alas!  I throw up my hands in despair, but  
remembering that the digital computer, I search for a backup file.   
Backups have saved me hundreds of hours, if not days, of work in the  
past.  Need I say more?


The *remember* buffer is not saved or backed up in any way.  The  
ideal solution would be for this buffer to be automatically backed  
up---to actually exist somewhere and be backed up just as a textmode  
buffer is.


Carsten earlier posted an at least partial solution to this problem.
#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
(defadvice remember-finalize (before org-save-and-detach activate)
  (when buffer-file-name
(save-buffer)
(setq buffer-file-name nil)))

(add-hook 'remember-mode-hook
   (lambda ()
 (org-set-local 'change-major-mode-with-file-name nil)
 (write-file ~/path/to/remember_backup.org)
 (org-set-local 'remember-buffer (buffer-name)))
   'append)
#+END_SRC

He said he would not include it in org-mode because one would be  
using remember out of its realm by making is a work buffer instead  
of a quick capture-or-note buffer.


Did  I say that? :-)  It turns out that I actually added the advice  
part, to when you

assign a file name with the hook, the saving is automatic.

Somehow, the current thread has changed my mind then.
I have now added a variable `org-remember-backup-directory'.
Set this to a directory, and every remember buffer
you create will end up in a separate file, with date
and time in the file name, so that you can always recover.
That I actually find a lot more useful than saving to a
single file name, because that would not help if you
accidently call remember again

Note that, if you use remember frequently, you will create
a lot of these files.  So maybe we need to think of an expiry
mechanism?  Like, remove any files older than a few days?

- Carsten


I admit I have used a wrench as a hammer at times, to the chagrin of  
the true mechanic.  I have found remember a useful tool.  I admit I  
haven't understood its mechanism: I have even been confused by it.   
I use the templates, but am still a novice: I have written fairly  
complicated org-remember templates, but I still haven't gotten my  
head entirely around what they can do.  I have used it in whatever  
manner seemed useful at the time.  So it is actually helpful to see  
how org-remember is intended to be used, that one should immediately  
file his notes.  But I have found this tool so useful (and my wrench  
is always handier than my hammer!) in my own way, that I will  
continue to operate in my unorthodox mode.


All's the same, I hope  a convincing argument to include this  
solution.  I would second the need to include a numbered backup  
mechanism to cover recursive calls to org-remember.


That being said, I have also started using %! in some templates.   
It feels clumsy, but for the most part solves the problem, since I  
seldom use the refiling options on the remember splash header.  It  
doesn't work as nicely with complicated templates with several  
prompts, and it is capricious: for example, I don't understand how  
to force the cursor to a particular position.


This problem happens at such a low frequency, for me, that an  
automatic backup mechanism would be sufficient, especially if it  
recognized a second instance of the *remember* buffer.


Something more transparent would be ideal.  I'm not sure how to  
organize that the *remember* buffer would automatically be saved as  
a file transparently, with numbered backups for new *remember*  

Re: [Orgmode] Nice article

2009-03-22 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Charles,

yes, the podcast turns up in my search, as did your earlier Twitter
announcements.  But thanks for the pointer all the same!
You have given yourself a very hard task, introducing both Emacs
and org-mode in a single session to an audience you assume does not
know either.  Great job at that - I hope you will find time to
get back to describing a few more features at some point.

Thanks a lot!

- Carsten

On Mar 21, 2009, at 11:08 PM, Charles Olsen wrote:


Carsten,

I don't know if this will show up in your search -- I just posted a
podcast where Org-mode is the main topic.

mintCast is a new podcast about Linux, and I like to talk about useful
software. I'm new to Org-mode and this episode barely scratches the
surface of its capabilities, but I do talk about how I've started
using it to do my writing (podcasts, articles and fiction).

As I learn more, I want to talk more about project planning in Org.
I've seen a demo by Russell Adams where he does some amazing things
with the program.

mintCast is available from iTunes, or can be downloaded at http://mintcast.org 
.


Charles Olsen

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl 
 wrote:


Hi,

my RSS feed looking for Org-mode on the web and in blogs
has today turned up a nice article by Peter Jones.

http://pmade.com/articles/2008/project-planning

Even though the comments so far are dominated by questions
about the color theme :-), it is actually a great look at
Org-mode project planning.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] date format and locale

2009-03-22 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Mar 22, 2009, at 5:43 AM, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy wrote:


Hi,

I'm a new comer to org-mode. I usually start my Emacs with vi_VN.UTF-8
locale and notice org-mode date output use the localized format too,
instead of standard one. I believe locale-independent format would be
better, but don't know how to do it. Seems like %a and other
locale-dependent must be replaced with locale-independent ones. Any
comments?

BTW, org-mode does not support timezone. I know Emacs' current-time
does not support timezone, so there is probably no way for org-mode to
detect correct timezone. But is there plan for supporting timezone
with user input, e.g. via property TIMEZONE?


No, we do not have timezone support, and I don't think I want
to put it in, this would be messy and complex.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] Changing TODO state to DONE does not stop clock in frame

2009-03-22 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Mar 21, 2009, at 9:43 PM, Matthew Lundin wrote:




On Mar 19, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Chris Randle wrote:



I've noticed that, when working in the new frame, changing the TODO
state of any item within the frame to DONE (when it is the currently
clocked in item) does not stop the clock. Going back to my main  
frame

and doing the same thing there on the same item does stop the clock.


Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes:


I am no able to reproduce this.  Can anyone else try, please?

- Carsten


I just tested it (with org from the git repo). The problem seems to
occur when a clock is started on an item before the indirect buffer is
created. In other words, the clock did not stop when I followed these
steps:

  1. Clocked into an item.

  2. Created an indirect buffer.

  3. Clocked out within the indirect buffer.



I am still unable to reproduce this.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] Question on quoting

2009-03-22 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:39 PM, Feng Zhou wrote:


Hello, All
I am having problems with typing  and  since org-mode thinks they
are targets.


What is the concrete problem?  What operation does not give the right  
result?



I am not able to type `|' in table either. I tried to use
\ as in latex, but it doesn't work.



You can write \vert to get a vertical bar in exported files.

- Carsten



Can anyone help me please? Thank
you very much.
--Feng


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Re: [Orgmode] timestamp editing

2009-03-22 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Mar 21, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Samuel Wales wrote:


When I edit a timestamp using c-c , or similar, I find that
there is no minibuffer history, so the arrow keys do not
seem to do anything useful.  Perhaps they are useful for
some other purpose?

Therefore the arrow keys seem free, for at least some users.

At the same time, shift-arrow keys work to edit the
minibuffer overlay feedback date, but they do so in a
different way from timestamp editing in the
outline buffer (up and right arrows mean earlier).  They are
intuitive for editing the calendar.

At least for me, this would work best: arrow keys navigate
the calendar, while shift arrow keys change the minibuffer.


Hi Samuel,

the date/time prompt is minibuffer input and should be fully editable.
I feel that I cannot deviate too much from what people expect
from a minibuffer.  I did consider using the arrow keys for
something else, but in the end decided against it.

Having said that, I can give you a hook to install any keys you like
in that prompt - - - - OK, `org-read-date-minibuffer-setup-hook'.

- Carsten



Then shift arrows would work for the minibuffer as they do
in the outline buffer, and arrows would work as expected in
the calendar.

Has this been considered before?

Thanks.

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Re: [Orgmode] Nice article

2009-03-22 Thread Russell Adams
Charles,

I sat down and listened to your podcast last night, and I think it was
very well done! Incidentally, thats my first podcast too!

I'm glad you're enjoying Org, see you at HLUG.

Thanks.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 04:22:23PM +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote:
 Hi Charles,

 yes, the podcast turns up in my search, as did your earlier Twitter
 announcements.  But thanks for the pointer all the same!
 You have given yourself a very hard task, introducing both Emacs
 and org-mode in a single session to an audience you assume does not
 know either.  Great job at that - I hope you will find time to
 get back to describing a few more features at some point.

 Thanks a lot!

 - Carsten

 On Mar 21, 2009, at 11:08 PM, Charles Olsen wrote:

 Carsten,

 I don't know if this will show up in your search -- I just posted a
 podcast where Org-mode is the main topic.

 mintCast is a new podcast about Linux, and I like to talk about useful
 software. I'm new to Org-mode and this episode barely scratches the
 surface of its capabilities, but I do talk about how I've started
 using it to do my writing (podcasts, articles and fiction).

 As I learn more, I want to talk more about project planning in Org.
 I've seen a demo by Russell Adams where he does some amazing things
 with the program.

 mintCast is available from iTunes, or can be downloaded at 
 http://mintcast.org.

 Charles Olsen

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Carsten Dominik 
 domi...@science.uva.nl wrote:

 Hi,

 my RSS feed looking for Org-mode on the web and in blogs
 has today turned up a nice article by Peter Jones.

 http://pmade.com/articles/2008/project-planning

 Even though the comments so far are dominated by questions
 about the color theme :-), it is actually a great look at
 Org-mode project planning.

 - Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] a small remember suggestion

2009-03-22 Thread Richard Riley

Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes:


 Note that, if you use remember frequently, you will create
 a lot of these files.  So maybe we need to think of an expiry
 mechanism?  Like, remove any files older than a few days?

If anyone wants to do this deletion manually, I do this in a script
which backs up mysql databases (linux bash shell) to keep the directory
pruned:

,
| find ./*.zip2 -mtime +10  -exec rm {} \;
`

i.e delete all zip2 files older than ten days.


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[Orgmode] [ANN] blorgit: org-mode blogging engine

2009-03-22 Thread Eric Schulte
Matthew Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes:


 I just discovered that there is ruby blog engine in development that
 uses org files as a back end:

 - http://github.com/eschulte/blorgit/tree/master

 (Looks really promising, Eric!)


Thanks Matt,

I've been using this myself for a couple of weeks now for sharing my
notes at work, and to convince my girlfriend (a sworn enemy of Emacs) to
help maintain a large org-mode formatted recipe catalog, by editing
pages through the blorgit web interface.  I think this should now be
ready for public consumption.

Blorgit is a simple blogging engine.  Features include...

- comments :: Comments can be left through the web interface, and they
  will be appended to the org-mode file under a Comments
  header.  They can be turned on or off globally, or through
  the properties of the Comments header

- editing :: optional editing through the web interface can be turned on
 or off, and can be password protected

- themes :: there are a couple of default themes distributed with
blorgit (try the 'org' theme using Tim Burt's folded
unicorn)

- runs directly from .org files :: this is designed to run off of a
 directory of org-mode formatted files, all exportation is handled
 by blorgit, so you should be able to point this to an existing
 directory of org-mode files, fire up the browser and get going.
 This also means that it is easy to add content or make
 configuration changes through git or any VC system.

- exportation :: all pages can be downloaded in org-mode or LaTeX
 formats

The goal was to be relatively simple/hackable.  The look and feel should
be largely malleable through css, and if you want to dig deeper, all of
the views and logic are located inside the blorgit.rb file.

See http://github.com/eschulte/blorgit/tree/master for instillation and
configuration instructions.  If anyone has any feedback, or wants to add
new default themes I'm all ears.

Thanks -- Eric

Also, for a slightly more ambitious (if less mature) effort see orGit.
It an org-mode formatted wiki, backed by a git repository (edits are
automatically committed to git, some git actions (reversion of pages,
etc...) can be handled through the web interface, and the git history
can be browsed through the wiki) see 
http://github.com/eschulte/orGit/tree/master


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Re: [Orgmode] a small remember suggestion

2009-03-22 Thread Alan E. Davis
Carsten:

This is perfect!  Thank you again.

Alan Davis


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non-existent. ---Lord Raleigh (John William Strutt), or
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On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nlwrote:

 org-remember-backup-directory'

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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

2009-03-22 Thread John Rakestraw
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 03:38:24 -0700
Brad Bozarth prettyg...@cs.stanford.edu wrote:

 Hi! I'm new to org-mode, but knew I had to use it when I combined a
 desire to try GTD with my ctrl-s view of the world.
 
 I'm ok with processing tethered to a computer, but wanted an easy way
 to capture on the move, without adding anything to my pocket. A couple
 days of hacking later (with some real *hacks*, but they work), and
 I've got something I really like.
 
 I can now, using either the iphone keyboard or my voice, quickly
 capture something, and know that it will shortly be sitting as a TODO
 under iPhone inbox in my gtd.org file that is git synchronized
 between all my computers. I put it together with a cron'd shell
 script, two awk scripts, and the free Reqall iPhone app. Could be
 done more elegantly, but then I wouldn't be Getting (other) Things
 Done :). I can share the hacks if anyone is interested.
 
 -brad

Consider me (very!) interested.

-- 
John Rakestraw


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[Orgmode] feature request

2009-03-22 Thread Robert D. Crawford
I've been trying to make an org-remember template that will grab the
title of the webpage I want to create a link to.  This seems to not be
possible, although I could very well be wrong.  I was curious as to
whether a new keyword could be created for w3 and w3m links.  Seems that
:title would be very useful.

I am pretty sure I could code this myself... doesn't seem to be terribly
difficult.  It is not likely though that I would ever contribute code to
anything else, so filling out the form and waiting for all of it to get
where it needs to go seems a bit of a waste.

Thanks for listening,
rdc
-- 
Robert D. Crawford  rd...@comcast.net

Every journalist has a novel in him, which is an excellent place for it.



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Re: [Orgmode] feature request

2009-03-22 Thread Matthew Lundin

Hi Robert,

Robert D. Crawford rd...@comcast.net writes:

 I've been trying to make an org-remember template that will grab the
 title of the webpage I want to create a link to.  This seems to not be
 possible, although I could very well be wrong.  I was curious as to
 whether a new keyword could be created for w3 and w3m links.  Seems that
 :title would be very useful.

When I use w3m, the annotation substitution (%a) in the remember
template does the trick. It grabs the url and title of the current page
(using org-store-link).

For instance, if I call remember while visiting the org-mode home page,
%a in the remember template is replaced by:

[[http://orgmode.org/][Org-Mode: Your Life in Plain Text]]

Best,
Matt



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Re: [Orgmode] manual missing variable org-use-fast-todo-selection

2009-03-22 Thread Manish
  On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Eraldo Helal wrote:
  
  [...]
   I just read a post on the mailing list: 2009-01-29
  
   and got 378 as an answer.  378 user-customizable variables,
   no kidding.
  
   No it's clear to me why this is the case.

Not sure if you have seen this.. you might find it useful.

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-configs/index.php

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Manish


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