[Emc-users] Tool Changing Mid-Operation

2009-12-01 Thread Michael Grundvig
Note: I posted this on CNCzone.com last night, but I think I'll get a better response here. Sorry for the cross-post. I feel like a fool but I don't get the trick with tool-changing. I use CamBam to create the gcode for a series of operations that require a couple of different endmills. I

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Changing Mid-Operation

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 05:31:11AM -0800, Michael Grundvig wrote: I've also tried stopping the operation but I can't figure out how to get it to resume at the line where it left off properly. You are right that you have to stop the program to do all this other stuff involved in changing the

[Emc-users] How to Correct Angular Axes Misaligment in Software?

2009-12-01 Thread Florian Rist
Hi, For the first time I have to mill a precise aluminum part and discovered that the x and y axes of our CNC mill are not properly aligned at an angel of 90° but show a deviation of about 10. Is it possible to correct this misalignment in software using EMC or Mach3 (both soft CNCs are used

Re: [Emc-users] How to Correct Angular Axes Misaligment in Software?

2009-12-01 Thread Jeff Epler
An emc user has contributed a kinematics module to correct for XY skew. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ContributedComponents#millkins_trivial_kinematics_extended_by_XY_skew_correction I have not personally used this kinematics module. I think emc's main limitation when using

Re: [Emc-users] How to Correct Angular Axes Misaligment in Software?

2009-12-01 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/12/1 Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de: Is it possible to correct this misalignment in software using EMC or Mach3 (both soft CNCs are used here)? Such a situation is specifically mentioned here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Kinematics Though I haven't found an existing

Re: [Emc-users] How to Correct Angular Axes Misaligment in Software?

2009-12-01 Thread Rainer Schmidt
I'd shift it in the CD software and run the CAM again On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de wrote: Hi, For the first time I have to mill a precise aluminum part and discovered that the x and y axes of our CNC mill are not properly aligned at an angel of 90° but show

Re: [Emc-users] How to Correct Angular Axes Misaligment in Software?

2009-12-01 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/12/1 Jeff Epler jep...@unpythonic.net: I think emc's main limitation when using kinematics to correct these kinds of machine imperfections is that jogs are not corrected--a Y jog will only turn the Y motor, not both motors together. Do the coordinates of the non-jogged axes update

[Emc-users] Breakout board question

2009-12-01 Thread Martin Pinkston
Good morning listers, I am cautiously submitting my first official question, but I suspect this may have the same response that asking an e-list of Honda Goldwing motorcycle riders what the best motor oil is. You can't even imagine unless you've seen itbikers can get ugly over motor

Re: [Emc-users] How to Correct Angular Axes Misaligment in Software?

2009-12-01 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Florian, EMC2 can do that. I corrected the perpendicularity of the linear axes and also the misalignment of the rotary axes A and B. The X, Y and Z axes are not mechanically orthogonal. The axis of rotation of the A axis is not exactly parallel to the X axis. The axis of rotation of the

Re: [Emc-users] Breakout board question

2009-12-01 Thread Rainer Schmidt
I'd go for the Opto Board as it gives you more protection from the harsh stepper environment. Actually... I'd rather buy a complete one and get on with the project rather wasting time with such a small part of a machine. Rainer

Re: [Emc-users] Breakout board question

2009-12-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 11:34 -0500, Martin Pinkston wrote: Good morning listers, I am cautiously submitting my first official question, but I suspect this may have the same response that asking an e-list of Honda Goldwing motorcycle riders what the best motor oil is. You can't even imagine

Re: [Emc-users] How to Correct Angular Axes Misaligment in Software?

2009-12-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 11:23 -0500, Rainer Schmidt wrote: I'd shift it in the CD software and run the CAM again At first, I agreed with you, but now I'm thinking, skew would be better fixed on the machine. You would correct the problem once and be done. With the skew correction in the CAM,

[Emc-users] Breakout board -revised

2009-12-01 Thread Martin Pinkston
o.k. I forgot to mention that this is for the mini mill (my first conversion attempt) and that the drive boards on the Centroid Controller has opto isolators already on the board. There is no spindle control other than a relay to turn the motor on or off. If I want the motor to go in the other

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Changing Mid-Operation

2009-12-01 Thread Hubert Bahr
I had this same problem and wanted to use MDI to move the table and Z axis to make the tool change and zero the Z axis. Leslie Newell created a revised hal_manualtoolchange which I have attached. The exchanges that explain it were under Using MDI during a Program? starting about june 24 09

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Changing Mid-Operation

2009-12-01 Thread Roland Jollivet
You could write a simple program or script, even in basic, to parse the g code file after it is generated, and insert a few lines of code before and after a M06. Make it lift the Z to a certain height and return afterwards. It may even be possible to insert this into your post-processor function,

Re: [Emc-users] How to Correct Angular Axes Misaligment in Software?

2009-12-01 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
I am with Kirk. Months ago I played with the gantrykins to correct mechanical skew on my router gantry. After several days of fiddling, I did get it to work, but one comment from a email response suggesting I just dive in and correct the skew at its source stuck with me. I loosened the gantry

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Changing Mid-Operation

2009-12-01 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
It may even be possible to insert this into your post-processor function, depending on the versatility of the program. This is available in Cambam. Cannot recall where exactly it is, but there is the option to add snippets of gcode with certain actions You might ask on the CamBam forums.

[Emc-users] Parallel port question

2009-12-01 Thread Martin Pinkston
When I get into the bios, I had to go through and check where parallel port was. It shows at 378/ IRQ7. Then when I go into the IRQ resources it show IRQ7 as PCI device. Well the parallel port is actually part of the mother board and not a PCI device, so I changed the parameter to Reserved. My

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Changing Mid-Operation

2009-12-01 Thread Ed
Roland Jollivet wrote: You could write a simple program or script, even in basic, to parse the g code file after it is generated, and insert a few lines of code before and after a M06. Make it lift the Z to a certain height and return afterwards. It may even be possible to insert this into

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port question

2009-12-01 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/12/1 Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com: . Did I do the right thing ? Probably not. Not all PCI devices are in PCI slots, there can be hardwired PCI lines on the motherboard too. I would suggest putting things back as they were, then seeing if it works. (Unless you have already

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Changing Mid-Operation

2009-12-01 Thread kestreltom
Michael Grundvig m...@... writes: Note: I posted this on CNCzone.com last night, but I think I'll get a better response here. Sorry for the cross-post. I feel like a fool but I don't get the trick with tool-changing. I use CamBam to create the gcode for a series of operations that

Re: [Emc-users] How to Correct Angular Axes Misaligment in Software?

2009-12-01 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Rainer I'd shift it in the CD software and run the CAM again I thought about that. It´d be quick and easy but I not a very nice solution and one that would introduce an extra step and therefore an extra chance to make mistakes. The similar, but more robust solution would have been to

Re: [Emc-users] How to Correct Angular Axes Misaligment in Software?

2009-12-01 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Brian Go back and ensure you are certain you cannot eliminate it mechanically first. Of course that was the first think I tried, but it's completely miss aligned and would be quite a hassle to aligned it mechanically. I have a deviation of 0.3mm on every 100mm. By the way, it's not

Re: [Emc-users] How to Correct Angular Axes Misaligment in Software?

2009-12-01 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Andy I think emc's main limitation when using kinematics to correct these kinds of machine imperfections is that jogs are not corrected--a Y jog will only turn the Y motor, not both motors together. Do the coordinates of the non-jogged axes update correctly? If so it seems only a

Re: [Emc-users] How to Correct Angular Axes Misaligment in Software?

2009-12-01 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Jeff thank for you answer. An emc user has contributed a kinematics module to correct for XY skew. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi- bin/emcinfo.pl?ContributedComponents#millkins_trivial_kinematics_extended_ by_XY_skew_correction Great, that´s what I was looking for. I was easy to install and

Re: [Emc-users] How to Correct Angular Axes Misaligment in Software?

2009-12-01 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Florian Rist wrote: Hi Brian Go back and ensure you are certain you cannot eliminate it mechanically first. Of course that was the first think I tried, but it's completely miss aligned and would be quite a hassle to aligned it mechanically. I have a deviation of 0.3mm on every

[Emc-users] Got my first signal out...

2009-12-01 Thread Martin Pinkston
Good evening group, I know this may not sound like a big deal to most of you, but just think back to when you had your first. ( get your mind out of the gutter...lol) Now here is something to really chuckle about. Dale, one of the members on the list here is a recent acquaintance and I'm starting