Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-19 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.05.12 23:09, Jon Elson wrote: The description in the user manual is almost completely incomprehensible. G10 L20 makes a little bit of sense, G10 L2 makes no sense at all. The new web page:

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-19 Thread cogoman
On 05/19/2012 06:06 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: It scares me that coordinate offsets could be cumulative. Coordinate offsets (workspaces) should not nest, I believe. I have not read anything in the doco to say that they do. That doesn't scare me at all, as long as the documentation is

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-19 Thread Jon Elson
Erik Christiansen wrote: Um ... that's always been my problem, when reading the older documentation. i.e. where the machine is NOW w.r.t. what? Yes, touch off from the workpiece, and those other references become moot. It scares me that coordinate offsets could be cumulative. Coordinate

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-19 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, May 19, 2012 05:16:44 PM cogoman did opine: On 05/19/2012 06:06 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: It scares me that coordinate offsets could be cumulative. Coordinate offsets (workspaces) should not nest, I believe. I have not read anything in the doco to say that they do.

[Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Hi all, The setting of the coordinate system (G53-g59.3) is not working the way I expected, and I am trying to figure out what I am doing wrong. I am running linuxcnc 2.5, BTW. After initialization and homing, if I issue: G53 G0 X0 Y0 It will correctly move to absolute machine 0, 0. This

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Hi all, Oops, I think I found it (haven't tested yet). I think I am off by one in P value. I don't understand why it worked the first time however. Regards, Eric Hi all, The setting of the coordinate system (G53-g59.3) is not working the way I expected, and I am trying to figure out what I am

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Hi all, Oops again, just a typo on my part. I was using coordinate system 3, but erroneously referred to it is 2. So the P values are being used correctly and the problem remains. Regards, Eric Hi all, Oops, I think I found it (haven't tested yet). I think I am off by one in P value. I don't

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread Jon Elson
Eric H. Johnson wrote: Hi all, Oops again, just a typo on my part. I was using coordinate system 3, but erroneously referred to it is 2. So the P values are being used correctly and the problem remains. Why are you working in the machine coordinate system? I never do that, it is for

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Jon, I am using the coordinate systems as a means of getting multiple tools offset in X and Y from each other so they can land on top of each other. IOW, do a pass with one tool, then apply the offsets of another tool but otherwise follow the same tool path. For example: G54 - Null Tool G55 -

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 May 2012 19:38, Eric H. Johnson ejohn...@camalytics.com wrote: I am using the coordinate systems as a means of getting multiple tools offset in X and Y from each other so they can land on top of each other. You _could_ do that with tool offsets in the tool table. (I think). All tools

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Andy, You _could_ do that with tool offsets in the tool table. (I think). All tools have spaces for offsets in XYZUVW. Are you talking about tool.tbl in the config directory? It looks to me like you can only set tool length and diameter. Am I missing something? If I could do that this would

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Andy, No, that does seem wrong and strange. I wonder if it is a synch problem, one part of the code not updating because it thinks nothing has changed on the basis of an internal value but another part of the code getting the information from the not-updated section? I have used this basic

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Andy, I do need to pay more attention to the change log. I waited for 2.5 for this application specifically for the ability to put named subroutines in their own folder. I did not realize the tool table functionality had changed in the previous version. Thanks, Eric Yes. Which LinuxCNC version

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread Jon Elson
Eric H. Johnson wrote: Jon, I am using the coordinate systems as a means of getting multiple tools offset in X and Y from each other so they can land on top of each other. IOW, do a pass with one tool, then apply the offsets of another tool but otherwise follow the same tool path. I thought

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread Jon Elson
Eric H. Johnson wrote: Andy, You _could_ do that with tool offsets in the tool table. (I think). All tools have spaces for offsets in XYZUVW. Are you talking about tool.tbl in the config directory? It looks to me like you can only set tool length and diameter. Am I missing

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread andy pugh
On 19 May 2012 02:40, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Anyway, the G10 L2 Px adds an offset from the CURRENT machine position, Are you sure about that? That isn't what the docs say. G10 L2 shouldn't consider the current position at all, it should simply define the offset between machine

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: On 19 May 2012 02:40, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Anyway, the G10 L2 Px adds an offset from the CURRENT machine position, Are you sure about that? That isn't what the docs say. G10 L2 shouldn't consider the current position at all, it should simply