Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/5/14 charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com: well, there's your spline form right there in the video.  screen capture.   the eliptical bearing is nice, but you can get away with a diametrically opposed pair of rollers for that function. No, diametrically opposed rollers is bad idea. Rollers

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 May 2012 07:29, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: If I cannot get the flexible bearings, then there is option of eccentric discs as a wave generator. You could probably dismantle a normal bearing, machine down the races to make them much thinnner, and then press them onto an

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread charles green
the discreet spline teeth are also an approximation. in fact, anything made out of atoms is flexible and grainy. why not construct mechanisms from massless rigid rods and such? --- On Mon, 5/14/12, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: From: Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread charles green
a loop of spring steel surrounding a layer of needle rollers, surrounding the cam form would be a workable prototyping path. in the other direction, a pile of currency units can be converted into a stock drive product, or a close customization with a nominal lead time. for example, very

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 May 2012 10:42, charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com wrote: the discreet spline teeth are also an approximation.  in fact, anything made out of atoms is flexible and grainy.  why not construct mechanisms from massless rigid rods and such? I think Viesturs has a point about the sides being

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread andy pugh
On 12 May 2012 00:11, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is that they do not have the tools for 0,5 module, smallest they have is 0,7. But with ~124 mm pitch diameter the tooth count changes from 247 to 177, which significantly reduces the reduction ratio - from

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread charles green
i dont see why to care what any part aside from the engagement area is doing, except maybe at some resonance frequencies (grease it up good) and/or high speeds (why use a reducer for high speed application?). --- On Tue, 5/15/12, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: From: andy pugh

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 May 2012 11:04, charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com wrote: i dont see why to care what any part aside from the engagement area is doing Now I think about it some more, I think you might be right. The cup is probably a little stiffer with the edge fully restrained, but I don't think the

Re: [Emc-users] simple conversational utility to cut off remnants

2012-05-15 Thread John Thornton
Tom, I use ngcgui and just fill in the blanks for length of cut. I have one called x-trim that I just need speed and length and off I go. Before ngcgui I just used a file called x-trim.ngc and edited the X and F. x-trim.ngc G20 (Units: Inches) G40 (Cancel Cutter Comp) G90 (Absolute Mode) G64

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-15 Thread John Thornton
Did you get a chance to look at the scope traces? I've secured a rather large 3 phase generator and power unit and will be hooking it up over the next few days for further testing. John On 5/13/2012 11:07 PM, Dave wrote: Do you know what the blue orb is on top of the commutating reactor is?

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 07:32:44 AM charles green did opine: the discreet spline teeth are also an approximation. in fact, anything made out of atoms is flexible and grainy. why not construct mechanisms from massless rigid rods and such? I have seen some drawings of such, from

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 07:38:31 AM andy pugh did opine: On 15 May 2012 10:42, charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com wrote: the discreet spline teeth are also an approximation. in fact, anything made out of atoms is flexible and grainy. why not construct mechanisms from massless rigid rods

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-15 Thread Dave
Yes. It appears that the Reactor is performing some useful function by removing a lot of noise. I'd go for the generator and see what happens. Dave On 5/15/2012 7:29 AM, John Thornton wrote: Did you get a chance to look at the scope traces? I've secured a rather large 3 phase generator

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/5/15 charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com: i dont see why to care what any part aside from the engagement area is doing, except maybe at some resonance frequencies (grease it up good) and/or high speeds (why use a reducer for high speed application?). With 200:1 reduction ratio the input

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 May 2012 13:28, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: No, those flexible bearings actually are _required_ to be flexed for normal operation . They even specify a range of min and max ovality - (D-d)/2 = 1,2...1.6mm (D and d - large and small diameters of elipse) for flexible

Re: [Emc-users] Debian with LinuxCNC

2012-05-15 Thread Schooner
Hi I have built 2.6.26 rtai kernels on Lenny and Squeeze. Still using Lenny on an older machine I used these instructions as a starting point and tailored for debian http://code.google.com/p/neo-technical/wiki/emc2ubuntu My notes suggest that tk/tcl8.4 bwidget and python-tk are not in the

Re: [Emc-users] Debian with LinuxCNC

2012-05-15 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 5/14/2012 4:00 PM, Tux Lab wrote: Is there a more up to date tutorial on how to compile rtai with Debian.It took me a whole weekend to compile a kernel that will boot but when I try the latency test, I get insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.32-rtai/rtai/rtai_hal.ko': -1 Invalid

Re: [Emc-users] Debian with LinuxCNC

2012-05-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 May 2012 17:02, Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.com wrote: insmod: error inserting Invalid module format into your favorite search engine. Both Google and Bing point me to pages that discuss this message and its cause (mismatch of kernel and module). Which asks the question, Was the

Re: [Emc-users] Debian with LinuxCNC

2012-05-15 Thread Tux Lab
thanks for the link. I've tried so many different way to compile rtai, ie via debian's repository and downloading from original source that I'm a bit lost right now.However it good to know that at least someone else is running EMC on debian, so it's a doable task :) Anyway, I just got the

Re: [Emc-users] Debian with LinuxCNC

2012-05-15 Thread Eric Keller
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Tux Lab project.tux...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for the link. I've tried so many different way to compile rtai, ie via debian's repository and downloading from original source that I'm a bit lost right now.However it good to know that at least someone else

Re: [Emc-users] Debian with LinuxCNC

2012-05-15 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 5/15/2012 2:05 PM, Tux Lab wrote: thanks for the link. I've tried so many different way to compile rtai, ie via debian's repository and downloading from original source that I'm a bit lost right now.However it good to know that at least someone else is running EMC on debian, so it's a

Re: [Emc-users] Debian with LinuxCNC

2012-05-15 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 5/15/2012 4:00 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 5/15/2012 2:05 PM, Tux Lab wrote: ... Does the graphics card driver makes any difference on latency? As I run glxgear, I notice the fps is pretty low and it's running software rendering. If I switch over to radeon driver will latency improve?

[Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread dave
Hi, Google is sometimes not my friend. Grump for an older guy. ;-) The idea is to install a linux from a live cd to at usb so I can get it on a D510MO. Since this board has no ide the route I think makes sense is: Download live iso from .ro site (done) Transfer iso to bootable usb. Boot from usb

Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
I recently did this successfully, albeit from a windows machine. I used Linux Live USB creator (http://www.linuxliveusb.com/), pointed it to the iso, and it made the USB stick bootable w/ the CD image. It doesn't just copy files. You should be able to use Unetbootin from the linux command line

Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 5/15/2012 4:12 PM, dave wrote: Hi, Google is sometimes not my friend. Grump for an older guy. ;-) Greetings from a fellow grump. The idea is to install a linux from a live cd to at usb so I can get it on a D510MO. Since this board has no ide the route I think makes sense is: Download

Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Dave, How about this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick You should be able to use the Linuxcnc LiveCD as the ISO image. Failing that, install generic Ubuntu 10.04 to the USB, use it to install, then run the Linuxcnc install script as described here under If you prefer

Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread Karl Cunningham
I used UNetBootin to create a live USB stick on a Linux desktop machine. It can use the ISO or live CD as the source for the image. Karl On 05/15/2012 01:12 PM, dave wrote: Hi, Google is sometimes not my friend. Grump for an older guy. ;-) The idea is to install a linux from a live cd to at

Re: [Emc-users] Debian with LinuxCNC

2012-05-15 Thread Tux Lab
Once I got RTAI module compiled and working on Debian, installing LinuxCNC was a lot easier. After banging my head on the wall for the last couple days, I finally downloaded the LinuxCNC LiveCD. It install and runs fine. Though the odd thing is, I can run linuxcnc latency-test, I can't run

Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread dave
On Tue, 15 May 2012 14:09:03 -0700 Karl Cunningham ka...@keckec.com wrote: I used UNetBootin to create a live USB stick on a Linux desktop machine. It can use the ISO or live CD as the source for the image. Ah! The best laid plans of mice and men I'm not quite sure what they mean by

[Emc-users] Intel Board issues

2012-05-15 Thread Terry Christophersen
Hi all   I am upgrading a motherboard to a Intel D525MW I am using a Live CD and I got these issues:   63.608618  dev_node_info function not supported 63.608666 unable to get node info   I am using a 32g solid state disc   I usually dont have any problems when I use the Live CD   Im sure you will

Re: [Emc-users] Intel Board issues

2012-05-15 Thread Terry Christophersen
I forgot that it says  [xx.xxx] pnpbios: dev_node_info function not supported     [xx.xxx] pnpbios: unable to get node info Terry - Original Message - From: Terry Christophersen tcninj...@yahoo.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller ( EMC)

Re: [Emc-users] Debian with LinuxCNC

2012-05-15 Thread N. Christopher Perry
You're dating yourself, Kent. :)) N.C. On 2012-May-15, at 16:11, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 5/15/2012 4:00 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 5/15/2012 2:05 PM, Tux Lab wrote: ... Does the graphics card driver makes any difference on latency? As I run glxgear, I notice the fps is pretty low and it's

Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread N. Christopher Perry
That's what I ended up doing. In my case I was trying to make a bootable usb on a Mac. Tried 3 - 4 different usb sticks without success. First time I ran through the process on an older Win2000 machine, everything worked exactly as it should. Now that particular USB is tucked away as the

Re: [Emc-users] Debian with LinuxCNC

2012-05-15 Thread Dave
Perry Mason would say. Perry who ?? ;-) Dave On 5/15/2012 10:28 PM, N. Christopher Perry wrote: You're dating yourself, Kent. :)) N.C. On 2012-May-15, at 16:11, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 5/15/2012 4:00 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 5/15/2012 2:05 PM, Tux Lab wrote: ...

[Emc-users] Not so custom

2012-05-15 Thread Mike Bennett
Argh StepConfig overwrites custom_postgui.hal with an empty file. The name 'custom' suggests it should not. Mike -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's