Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/25/2012 03:53 PM, s...@highlab.com wrote: I am not a board member or anything official, I'm just some guy who hacks on linuxcnc sometimes. I speak for myself. I've been following this thread since the start, and there is a disconnect between what people are asking for and how i think

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/26/2012 06:25 AM, andy pugh wrote: It is worth bearing in mind, thought, that no matter what else happens, your installation of LinuxCNC will continue to work, and as long as you keep a copy of the source there is no reason that it can't continue to do so indefinitely. New features and

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-26 Thread Dave
hour talking about bills. I'd rather just hack. That's where I'm coming from. - Reply message - From: Sven Wesleysvenne.d...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Jan 25, 2012 05:12 Subject: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors To:mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil, Enhanced Machine

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-25 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/24/2012 04:52 PM, Dave wrote: Thank You Guys for doing that and footing the bill..I know hosting is not free.. if you put a donate link someplace... I think that might help offset some costs. Dave Dave, I think that's a great idea. A number of different forums, groups, etc

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-25 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 05:49:24 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 01/24/2012 04:52 PM, Dave wrote: Thank You Guys for doing that and footing the bill..I know hosting is not free.. if you put a donate link someplace... I think that might help offset some costs. Dave Dave, I

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-25 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/25/2012 05:49 AM, gene heskett wrote: Dave, I think that's a great idea. A number of different forums, groups, etc that I belong to do just that, and it really helps with the cost of upkeep. What say ye fellow LinuxCNC'ers? Let's help out the folks that are keeping our web presence

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 January 2012 11:01, Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: Does our BOD have a treasurer position?  If not, perhaps it's time we added that position, create a single bank account, attach a Paypal account to it and use that to pay the web bills? There is some risk there of ending up

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-25 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/25/2012 06:06 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 25 January 2012 11:01, Mark Wendtmark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: Does our BOD have a treasurer position? If not, perhaps it's time we added that position, create a single bank account, attach a Paypal account to it and use that to pay the web

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-25 Thread John Thornton
Chris, Is there any need to have a second backup of the whole works? John On 1/24/2012 1:48 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:31:11AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-25 Thread Sven Wesley
Andy, Understandable. The paypal link could be set up so that it could be turned on when funds are needed and turned off when the funding is met. The treasurer would have to stay on top of that though. Mark This must be the most wide spread discussion in ages at this mailing list,

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-25 Thread John Thornton
That's the beauty of having different methods of communication. You like the Zone and I hate it and never go there. Doesn't make one better than the other in any way, it just makes the LinuxCNC forum better for me and 5000 other users and the Zone better for you and the people who like to go

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-25 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 08:59:05 AM Sven Wesley did opine: Andy, Understandable. The paypal link could be set up so that it could be turned on when funds are needed and turned off when the funding is met. The treasurer would have to stay on top of that though. Mark This

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 January 2012 12:12, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: If you guys think that the internal forum works well so be it. To me it's not better at all than (for example) cnczone or the mailing list. I agree. However, it is much easier to find, and so ends up being the first port of

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-25 Thread s...@highlab.com
- From: Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Jan 25, 2012 05:12 Subject: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors To: mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil, Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Andy, Understandable. The paypal link could be set up so

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-25 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 01:53:51PM -0700, s...@highlab.com wrote: I have a list of things *I* want to do to the linuxcnc project, but I'd never dream of telling anyone to work on them. It's not my place to tell folks what to do. Although I am not a contributor to LinuxCNC I have contributed

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Sven Wesley
2012/1/24 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com On Monday, January 23, 2012 11:57:10 PM Jeff Epler did opine: Michael, I would like to address your concerns over the quality of the rebranding changes and the degree of consideration that they were given before they were made. I can speak

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread John Thornton
Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift to a commercial laden for profit forum? There is nothing more annoying that waiting for all the commercials to load and clutter up your screen at the zone. Do you work for or derive profit the zone? John On 1/24/2012 7:47

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/24/2012 8:47 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and some browsers fail to show it. There is an active forum at cnczone (I'll fix the renaming), there's a

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
John Thornton wrote: Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift to a commercial laden for profit forum? There is nothing more annoying that waiting for all the commercials to load and clutter up your screen at the zone. Do you work for or derive profit the zone?

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread John Thornton
That is the main reason I don't go to the zone as with my 1Mb (sometimes that good sometimes not so good) it takes 30 minutes to load a page then you have to navigate all the ads to find the forum... John On 1/24/2012 12:36 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: Why on earth would you

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 01/24/2012 12:36 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Oh, that's a different story. The performance of CNCzone was never great, but tolerable. NOW, it is EXECRABLE! I have a 20 MB/s internet, and I often have to wait a MINUTE for the ads to load before I can see some discussion. Their It is easy to

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 12:42 -0600, John Thornton wrote: That is the main reason I don't go to the zone as with my 1Mb (sometimes that good sometimes not so good) it takes 30 minutes to load a page then you have to navigate all the ads to find the forum... John Thank goodness for the

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:31:11AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you. Nope. SWP pays for our advertisement-free hosting of the website, web forum, and wiki. He and Alex and

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread stevesng
Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you. -- Kirk Wallace Duh, well once upon a time, but not any longer. I think that credit now goes to Stephen Willie Padnos and DreamHost. Perhaps you could point out the

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 11:41 -0800, steve...@newsguy.com wrote: Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you. -- Kirk Wallace Duh, well once upon a time, but not any longer. I think that credit now goes to Stephen

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Dave
I entirely agree. There is nothing wrong with the forum as it is. The CNCZone is not open and could go to a paid subscription service in a heartbeat. Dave On 1/24/2012 9:56 AM, John Thornton wrote: Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift to a commercial laden

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Moses McKnight
On 01/24/2012 12:36 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift to a commercial laden for profit forum? There is nothing more annoying that waiting for all the commercials to load and clutter up your screen at the zone. Do

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 07:50:23 PM Dave did opine: On 1/24/2012 2:48 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:31:11AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you.

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 6:53 PM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 07:50:23 PM Dave did opine: On 1/24/2012 2:48 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:31:11AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: Thank goodness for the servers that host our website,

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 25 January 2012 00:53, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: For the help I have received, durn tootin I'll donate.  But I'd prefer you who are footing the bills agree I was thinking about this while doing the dishes. Something I have never seen is a donate button that shows the current

[Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-23 Thread Michael Haberler
Dear EMC Board, you recently announced the decision to rename EMC2, see below. I do not take issue with the renaming decision per se - legal conditions are what they are, and while I don't hear the 'buzz' just yet, I believe a unique term will help, for instance better search engine results

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-23 Thread Jeff Epler
Michael, I would like to address your concerns over the quality of the rebranding changes and the degree of consideration that they were given before they were made. I can speak only for myself here, and I have my linuxcnc developer hat on as I write this.. I don't have any trouble admitting

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-23 Thread Chris Morley
I will add my voice at least so Michael knows he is not the only one who feels this way. First: Jeff thank you for answering. And I'm glad to see you back in a more active role. I hope what ever kept you away has worked out well. Michael, I would like to address your concerns over the

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-23 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 23, 2012 11:57:10 PM Jeff Epler did opine: Michael, I would like to address your concerns over the quality of the rebranding changes and the degree of consideration that they were given before they were made. I can speak only for myself here, and I have my linuxcnc