Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-26 Thread yann jautard
Le 25/12/2011 23:28, Jon Elson a écrit : Linux distros. Ctrl/Alt/F7 goes back to the Xwindows screen if it is working. or ctrl/alt/F8 sometimes, e.g. if for some reason *dm crashed and respawned. Ctrl/Alt/backspace kills Xwindows. not anymore on *buntu distros. If you want it, you need

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-25 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 12/24/2011 3:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote: gene heskett wrote: And sudo quits working, so you can't fix anything else. You actually can, but you have to get down to hacker level. You can get into grub, show the default boot command, and add the option to go to single-user boot

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-25 Thread Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
esc and the splash-screen goes away alt+F6 for dmesg output Am Sonntag, 25. Dezember 2011 schrieb Mark Wendt (Contractor): On 12/24/2011 3:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote: gene heskett wrote: And sudo quits working, so you can't fix anything else. You actually can, but you have to get down to

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-25 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, December 25, 2011 09:21:09 AM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/24/2011 3:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote: gene heskett wrote: And sudo quits working, so you can't fix anything else. You actually can, but you have to get down to hacker level. You can get into grub, show

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-25 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 12/25/2011 9:35 AM, gene heskett wrote: Anybody remember the Alt-somethingorother key combo to bring up the running of the startup scripts rather than the Ubuntu splash screen during boot? I thought I had it saved away somewhere but I'll be durned if I can find it. That's helpful if you

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-25 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
Thanks! Mark On 12/25/2011 8:08 AM, Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: esc and the splash-screen goes away alt+F6 for dmesg output Am Sonntag, 25. Dezember 2011 schrieb Mark Wendt (Contractor): On 12/24/2011 3:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote: gene heskett wrote: And sudo quits

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-25 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, December 25, 2011 11:51:20 AM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/25/2011 9:35 AM, gene heskett wrote: Anybody remember the Alt-somethingorother key combo to bring up the running of the startup scripts rather than the Ubuntu splash screen during boot? I thought I had it

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-25 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 12/25/2011 11:51 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Sunday, December 25, 2011 11:51:20 AM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/25/2011 9:35 AM, gene heskett wrote: Anybody remember the Alt-somethingorother key combo to bring up the running of the startup scripts rather than the

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-25 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Anybody remember the Alt-somethingorother key combo to bring up the running of the startup scripts rather than the Ubuntu splash screen during boot? I thought I had it saved away somewhere but I'll be durned if I can find it. That's helpful if you

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 12/23/2011 2:47 PM, gene heskett wrote: I sounded like a good idea, but: [gene@coyote ~]$ ssh shop gene@shop's password: Linux shop 2.6.32-122-rtai #rtai SMP Tue Jul 27 12:44:07 CDT 2010 i686 GNU/Linux Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS Welcome to Ubuntu! * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 12/23/2011 6:18 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Friday, December 23, 2011 06:11:28 PM Mark Cason did opine: On 12/23/2011 01:47 PM, gene heskett wrote: Last login: Thu Dec 22 09:38:52 2011 from coyote.coyote.den gene@shop:~$ sudo useradd -u 500 gene to modify a user, you must use

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread yann jautard
Le 23/12/2011 23:35, Mark Cason a écrit : On 12/23/2011 01:47 PM, gene heskett wrote: Last login: Thu Dec 22 09:38:52 2011 from coyote.coyote.den gene@shop:~$ sudo useradd -u 500 gene to modify a user, you must use usermod: sudo usermod -u 500 gene I haven't used usermod in a lng

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, December 24, 2011 09:00:31 AM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/23/2011 2:47 PM, gene heskett wrote: I sounded like a good idea, but: [gene@coyote ~]$ ssh shop gene@shop's password: Linux shop 2.6.32-122-rtai #rtai SMP Tue Jul 27 12:44:07 CDT 2010 i686 GNU/Linux

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread Michael Büsch
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 09:05:57 -0500 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: And sudo quits working, so you can't fix anything else. Even if sudo, su and direct root login stop working, you can still fix it by directly booting into a shell with init=/bin/bash rw And if that also fails (because you

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread yann jautard
Le 24/12/2011 15:04, gene heskett a écrit : On Saturday, December 24, 2011 09:00:31 AM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/23/2011 2:47 PM, gene heskett wrote: I sounded like a good idea, but: [gene@coyote ~]$ ssh shop gene@shop's password: Linux shop 2.6.32-122-rtai #rtai SMP Tue

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:14:41 PM yann jautard did opine: Le 24/12/2011 15:04, gene heskett a écrit : On Saturday, December 24, 2011 09:00:31 AM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/23/2011 2:47 PM, gene heskett wrote: I sounded like a good idea, but: [gene@coyote ~]$

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 12/24/2011 9:04 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Saturday, December 24, 2011 09:00:31 AM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/23/2011 2:47 PM, gene heskett wrote: I sounded like a good idea, but: [gene@coyote ~]$ ssh shop gene@shop's password: Linux shop 2.6.32-122-rtai #rtai

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 12/24/2011 12:22 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:14:41 PM yann jautard did opine: Le 24/12/2011 15:04, gene heskett a écrit : On Saturday, December 24, 2011 09:00:31 AM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/23/2011 2:47 PM, gene heskett

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:45:10 PM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/24/2011 9:04 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Saturday, December 24, 2011 09:00:31 AM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/23/2011 2:47 PM, gene heskett wrote: I sounded like a good idea, but:

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:55:49 PM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/24/2011 9:05 AM, gene heskett wrote: That has been done long ago Mark. The problem is that on pclos (this box) gene is the first user, with a userid of 500. On ubuntu, gene is also the first user 1000,

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:56:52 PM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/24/2011 12:22 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:14:41 PM yann jautard did opine: Le 24/12/2011 15:04, gene heskett a écrit : On Saturday, December 24, 2011 09:00:31 AM Mark Wendt

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 12/24/2011 1:04 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:56:52 PM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/24/2011 12:22 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:14:41 PM yann jautard did opine: Le 24/12/2011 15:04, gene heskett a

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, December 24, 2011 01:18:41 PM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: [and a lengthy argument snipped] I do. But that is so all encompassing on pclos, that all paths then have to be cd'd to from the /root account. Even when using it in a script, a cd to do something in a subdir

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread yann jautard
Le 24/12/2011 19:04, gene heskett a écrit : On Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:56:52 PM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 12/24/2011 12:22 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:14:41 PM yann jautard did opine: Le 24/12/2011 15:04, gene heskett a écrit : On Saturday,

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, December 24, 2011 01:59:00 PM yann jautard did opine: [overdue chomp] I think here we are talking about another problem. The point is not to use root account to make all your admin stuff (even if it may be a better choice than sudo), but use it only the time needed to change

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread yann jautard
well, I just see something a lot simpler : when using the users-admin GUI from gnome, you can change the UID... Le 24/12/2011 19:56, yann jautard a écrit : Le 24/12/2011 19:04, gene heskett a écrit : On Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:56:52 PM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread yann jautard
Le 24/12/2011 20:18, gene heskett a écrit : On Saturday, December 24, 2011 01:59:00 PM yann jautard did opine: [overdue chomp] I think here we are talking about another problem. The point is not to use root account to make all your admin stuff (even if it may be a better choice than

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, December 24, 2011 02:50:57 PM yann jautard did opine: well, I just see something a lot simpler : when using the users-admin GUI from gnome, you can change the UID... Who is using gnome? I'd pay that nagging nanny to stay in Peoria. :) Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, December 24, 2011 02:57:51 PM yann jautard did opine: Le 24/12/2011 20:18, gene heskett a écrit : On Saturday, December 24, 2011 01:59:00 PM yann jautard did opine: [overdue chomp] I think here we are talking about another problem. The point is not to use root

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: And sudo quits working, so you can't fix anything else. You actually can, but you have to get down to hacker level. You can get into grub, show the default boot command, and add the option to go to single-user boot mode. When Linux comes up, you are the super-user,

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, December 24, 2011 03:38:50 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: And sudo quits working, so you can't fix anything else. You actually can, but you have to get down to hacker level. You can get into grub, show the default boot command, and add the option to go to

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread Rafael Skodlar
On 12/23/2011 08:08 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Friday, December 23, 2011 10:18:29 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: That has been done long ago Mark. The problem is that on pclos (this box) gene is the first user, with a userid of 500. On ubuntu, gene is also the first user 1000,

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-24 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, December 24, 2011 04:41:00 PM Rafael Skodlar did opine: On 12/23/2011 08:08 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Friday, December 23, 2011 10:18:29 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: That has been done long ago Mark. The problem is that on pclos (this box) gene is the first

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-23 Thread yann jautard
Le 22/12/2011 16:33, gene heskett a écrit : Greetings all; First, I guess we start a round of wishing everybody a merry Christmas. Second, the diffs in user number basing between normal systems with the first user at 500, and *buntu system with a first user at 1000 is killing me since all

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-23 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, December 23, 2011 02:44:33 PM yann jautard did opine: Le 22/12/2011 16:33, gene heskett a écrit : Greetings all; First, I guess we start a round of wishing everybody a merry Christmas. Second, the diffs in user number basing between normal systems with the first user

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-23 Thread Mark Cason
On 12/23/2011 01:47 PM, gene heskett wrote: Last login: Thu Dec 22 09:38:52 2011 from coyote.coyote.den gene@shop:~$ sudo useradd -u 500 gene to modify a user, you must use usermod: sudo usermod -u 500 gene I haven't used usermod in a lng time, so I don't know if you need to change user,

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-23 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, December 23, 2011 06:11:28 PM Mark Cason did opine: On 12/23/2011 01:47 PM, gene heskett wrote: Last login: Thu Dec 22 09:38:52 2011 from coyote.coyote.den gene@shop:~$ sudo useradd -u 500 gene to modify a user, you must use usermod: sudo usermod -u 500 gene I haven't

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-23 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: That has been done long ago Mark. The problem is that on pclos (this box) gene is the first user, with a userid of 500. On ubuntu, gene is also the first user 1000, so when user 500 tries to copy a file to /home/user=1000 on ubuntu, its 100% no permissions. Now if

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-23 Thread Mark Cason
On 12/23/2011 05:18 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Friday, December 23, 2011 06:11:28 PM Mark Cason did opine: On 12/23/2011 01:47 PM, gene heskett wrote: Last login: Thu Dec 22 09:38:52 2011 from coyote.coyote.den gene@shop:~$ sudo useradd -u 500 gene to modify a user, you must use usermod:

Re: [Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-23 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, December 23, 2011 10:18:29 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: That has been done long ago Mark. The problem is that on pclos (this box) gene is the first user, with a userid of 500. On ubuntu, gene is also the first user 1000, so when user 500 tries to copy a file to

[Emc-users] fail2ban default setup gotcha

2011-12-22 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; First, I guess we start a round of wishing everybody a merry Christmas. Second, the diffs in user number basing between normal systems with the first user at 500, and *buntu system with a first user at 1000 is killing me since all the system utils that one would use for copying