Re: [Emc-users] off topic opinions

2013-04-28 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:00 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed, it is a matter of priorities, and he knew his. I choose a house, typically, on whether it has a garage. If I was looking for a house now I wouldn't have bought the one I did, I would have been looking for more

Re: [Emc-users] off topic opinions

2013-04-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 April 2013 12:09, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: You're leaving out one extremely important factor. SWMBO. I have done a cost/benefit analysis and prefer the extra workshop space :-) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] off topic opinions

2013-04-28 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 8:59 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 April 2013 12:09, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: You're leaving out one extremely important factor. SWMBO. I have done a cost/benefit analysis and prefer the extra workshop space :-) -- atp In other

[Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Michael Haberler
As promised, I have prepared an SD card image for the beaglebone ready-to-run. README: http://static.mah.priv.at/public/beaglebone/starterkit/README.beaglebone-sd download from: http://static.mah.priv.at/public/beaglebone/starterkit/ Please understand this as a 'raw hide, some assembly

[Emc-users] Mesa Board Configuration

2013-04-28 Thread RogerN
I’m preparing for a conversion of a mill that has servos and encoders. It currently has 3 axis but I want to add spindle control. In the future I’d like to be able to add a rotary axis... What I’d like is a configuration to allow 8 servos plus some I/O for limit and home switches. The

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa Board Configuration

2013-04-28 Thread Andrew
2013/4/28 RogerN re...@wildblue.net I’m preparing for a conversion of a mill that has servos and encoders. It currently has 3 axis but I want to add spindle control. In the future I’d like to be able to add a rotary axis... What I’d like is a configuration to allow 8 servos plus some I/O

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa Board Configuration

2013-04-28 Thread Andrew
2013/4/28 Andrew parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com In case you don't (and you actually don't) need 8 axes, MESA 5i25 + 7i76 is a perfect fit with 6 servo axes + 48 I/O. Sorry, it's 5i25 + 7i77 for servos. 7i76 is step/dir card. Andrew

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa Board Configuration

2013-04-28 Thread Todd Zuercher
If you need 8 axis of pwm+encoders you cold go with a 5i25, two 7i85 cards, plus what ever smart serial card(s) suit your io needs. If you only need 4 for now, you could buy just the one 7i85 and add the other one later as needed. - Original Message - I’m preparing for a conversion of

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread David Bagby
Michael, Thank you! This is like getting a an unexpected new toy :-) Dave Message: 3 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:09:37 +0200 From: Michael Haberlermai...@mah.priv.at Subject: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD cardimage To: Enhanced Machine

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Jon Elson
Michael Haberler wrote: As promised, I have prepared an SD card image for the beaglebone ready-to-run. Fantastic work, many thanks! partition 2 - ext4, size 3.8GB or greater, In a number of places, ext4 has been reported to be associated with early failure of SD cards. I'm not sure

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Ralph Stirling
At $49 vs. $35, I would take the new BeagleBone Black any day over the Raspberry Pi. The processor is from TI (with long processor experience) instead of Broadcom. The processor also has great peripherals for motion control (not present in the Broadcom chip). The only thing the RPi has going

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Eric Keller
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Is there a consensus about BeagleBone vs. Raspberry Pi? I think it's a no-brainer myself. I have a Raspi, but I just don't see it competing with the bbb

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Kenneth Lerman
Beaglebone -- TI chip. Intended for industrial use. Family will be available forever. The boards are open source. Raspberry Pi -- Broadcom chip. Intended for cell phone use. A new model every year. The boards are open source -- you just can't buy the chips for them. The PRU on the Beaglebone

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Jon Elson
Eric Keller wrote: On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Is there a consensus about BeagleBone vs. Raspberry Pi? I think it's a no-brainer myself. I have a Raspi, but I just don't see it competing with the bbb OK, this was my take on the

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Kenneth Lerman
On 4/28/2013 5:15 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Eric Keller wrote: On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Is there a consensus about BeagleBone vs. Raspberry Pi? I think it's a no-brainer myself. I have a Raspi, but I just don't see it competing with

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Dave
I have some RPIs and I think the BBBs will run rings around the RPIs... The PRUs seem to be the clincher. RPIs are fine for some things, but I just ordered a couple Beaglebone Blacks from Mouser. They are suppose to ship this week. The capes in the works are impressive.. The fact that

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 28 April 2013 17:29:54 Jon Elson did opine: Eric Keller wrote: On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Is there a consensus about BeagleBone vs. Raspberry Pi? I think it's a no-brainer myself. I have a Raspi, but I just don't see it

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Greg Bernard
    I'm with Gene on this. For the short term, at least, a parallel port adapter (or 2) would allow existing BOB's to be used. But the ideal would be a dedicated cape that could provide the functionality of a Mesa or Pico Systems board. 

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Jon Elson
Kenneth Lerman wrote: I think if you look at the capabilities of the Bone, it might be hard to justify adding your board. (Note that I haven't looked at the detailed specs.) The Bone has multiple encoders support. How does the rate supported compare with the rate of your boards? The Bone

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread dave
Considering the fact that good BOB's cost pretty much what the B3 does being able to plug to current BOB's would be nice. Dave On Sun, 2013-04-28 at 14:55 -0700, Greg Bernard wrote: I'm with Gene on this. For the short term, at least, a parallel port adapter (or 2) would allow existing

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:41:46 -0700, you wrote: Thank you! This is like getting a an unexpected new toy :-) Agreed, fantastic work by Michael. I, like many others, would love to build a small footprint controller with no PC involvement, but there are still those niggling long term bugs and

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Dave
I disagree. If you want a killer product for the BeagleBone Black, you need to toss the EPP port concept entirely and have the BeagleBone Plug into the Breakout board - similar to a cape. But make it larger and put 24 volt DC I/O on it, along with analog I/O, Encoder ins, and step and

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Gregg Eshelman
So this setup for the BeagleBone Black runs LinuxCNC and a small web server, to control it you login via Ethernet? Interesting setup, that. I do that quite often with HP laser printers and I've remotely updated and operated Portmasters hundreds of miles away. For the control peripheral board

Re: [Emc-users] ?Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Steve Stallings
Dave, PMDX is considering just such a product and is trying to figure out what things are needed for a real industrial control. Meanwhile, we are actually working on a cape to be used as a test platform at Wichita. It will use the parallel port header approach along with other debugging

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Jon Elson
Dave wrote: I disagree. If you want a killer product for the BeagleBone Black, you need to toss the EPP port concept entirely and have the BeagleBone Plug into the Breakout board - similar to a cape. Yes, I mostly agree with this. What I had in mind was to put an 8-bit plus control

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013, Dave wrote: Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:23:24 -0400 From: Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] [utf-8] Beaglebone

Re: [Emc-users] ?Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Dave
Hi Steve, Sounds like you have your head in the game..Smart! :-) I have no clue how successful the BeagleBone is going to be. But it sure is interesting! It could really be a game changer. I'm going to try hard to get to Wichita and so far I have been able to keep my schedule clear for

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-28 Thread Dave
Another plan might be to make an FPGA board specific for the Bone, but what do I do with all the inventory I already have, here? Obviously you are not the only one in that boat! But I don't think the PC based CNC market is going to vanish overnight even if the BeagleBone is wildly

[Emc-users] warning on the Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit :-/

2013-04-28 Thread Michael Haberler
as these things go.. I've learned hours after announcing the starterkit that: 1. this image will *not* boot on the Beaglebone Black 2. the 3.2.21/2.6 Xenomai patch used in the starterkit kernel does have a serious issue ad 1): Kent was the first to try and confirmed the BBB does NOT boot this

[Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-28 Thread Cecil Thomas
I recently was given a 1953 Monarch 10EE basic Model lathe. It is the Ward Leonard motor generator type so no electronics to deal with. The basic model has no lead screw and no gearing for screw cutting. There is also no taper attachment. It does have carriage and cross slide power feeds. I