IMHO I believe there is a simple way to understand Sheldrake's morphisms,
which is to give up our usual physical or scientific measure of time
and adopt Leibniz's indexed version of time. In his metaphysics,
time is not a physical variable, but is an indexed ordering of events
in terms of
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Monday, January 28, 2013 1:05:28 PM UTC-5, telmo_menezes wrote:
Hi Craig,
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comwrote:
On Monday, January 28, 2013 7:24:11 AM UTC-5,
Hi Roger,
2) At the same time, this corporate welfare provides jobs and stimulates
the economy.
Jobs and the economy are just a means to an end -- resource management. I
think we've really lost sight of what we want at a very fundamental level.
Nobody wants a job* or a strong economy. What
On Monday, January 28, 2013 4:10:48 PM UTC-5, JohnM wrote:
Craig:
beautiful series. Mostly agreeable terms.
I used some of it in a slightly different sense, but not oppositional;
Thanks John,
I like your comments a lot as well and I think they add to the discussion...
*Organisms do
On 27 Jan 2013, at 07:09, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/26/2013 9:53 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
I think what you are describing comes automatically with comp, as
any observer only knows their direct observations, which could be
created by any one of an infinite number of possible programs going
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:33 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net
socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
.Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit
If triangles made a God they would give him three sides
/ Charles de Montesquieu . Persian Letters, 1721 /
#
There were people who said ‘God
A block universe does not allow for consciousness.
The fact the we all possess consciousness, so we think,
means that our universe is not completely blocked,
although the deviations from block may be minor
and inconsequential regarding the Omega Point.
Richard.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:18 PM,
John,
On 27 Jan 2013, at 18:09, John Mikes wrote:
Dear Bruno, a brilliant statement.
I use the more polite word 'agnosticism' for 'ignorance'.
No problem. This conveys the main idea.
In our 'absence of knowledge' (how 'bout that?) we try hard to
develop some faith in a setup
On 27 Jan 2013, at 18:31, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Without religion, science is pseudo-religion
That's OK with me. Religion is bullshit,
We have discuss this. You confuse religion with clericalism. By saying
gross statement like
On 27 Jan 2013, at 18:27, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/27/2013 7:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The big bang remains awkward with computationalism. It suggest a
long and deep computations is going through our state, but comp
suggest that the big bang is not the beginning.
Dear Bruno,
I
On 25 Jan 2013, at 13:33, Roger Clough wrote:
I have no conflict being a scientist when I deal with science, and
being
a Christian when I deal with the Bible.
Of course we differ on this. For me science does not exist, only
scientific attitude. And I consider that the scientific
On 27 Jan 2013, at 15:57, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:09:06 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I would like a semi-axiomatic definition of sensory, to make this
more palatable. I try to get a theory of sense, and I can't take
that notion for granted, even if I
The most incomprehensible thing about the world is
that it is comprehensible.
/ Albert Einstein /
On Jan 29, 2:49 pm, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:33 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net
socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
.Everybody creates his God
On 27 Jan 2013, at 19:53, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Bruno,
You sill say interesting things even in a thread that has fallen
deep in the boring hole of Reductio at Hitlerum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum
Well ... Thanks :)
Actually, it happens that I appreciate
On 27 Jan 2013, at 20:46, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/27/2013 5:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 25 Jan 2013, at 23:12, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/25/2013 8:22 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Even the idea that we are unconscious during deep sleep does not
convince me. We could be conscious but without
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:18:25 AM UTC-5, telmo_menezes wrote:
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Monday, January 28, 2013 1:05:28 PM UTC-5, telmo_menezes wrote:
Hi Craig,
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Craig Weinberg
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 27 Jan 2013, at 18:27, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/27/2013 7:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The big bang remains awkward with computationalism. It suggest a long and
deep computations is going through our state, but
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:48:32 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 27 Jan 2013, at 15:57, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:09:06 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I would like a semi-axiomatic definition of sensory, to make this more
palatable. I try to get a
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:20:11 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Bruno Marchal
mar...@ulb.ac.bejavascript:
wrote:
On 27 Jan 2013, at 18:27, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/27/2013 7:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The big bang remains awkward with
On 1/29/2013 8:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 27 Jan 2013, at 07:09, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/26/2013 9:53 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
I think what you are describing comes automatically with comp, as
any observer only knows their direct observations, which could be
created by any one of an infinite
On 1/29/2013 8:49 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:33 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net
socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
.Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit
If triangles made a God they would give him three sides
/ Charles de Montesquieu . Persian Letters,
On 1/29/2013 9:04 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
A block universe does not allow for consciousness.
Indeed! How is it even possible for any part of the block to have
anything like something that is it is like to be conscious of some
other portion of the block?
The fact the we all possess
On 1/29/2013 9:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 27 Jan 2013, at 18:27, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/27/2013 7:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The big bang remains awkward with computationalism. It suggest a
long and deep computations is going through our state, but comp
suggest that the big bang
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
I am very glad with all your posts on religion, as they confirm my theory
according to which (strong) atheists are (strong) Christians in disguise.
Wow, calling a guy known for disliking religion religious, never heard that
one
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:46:18PM -0500, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/29/2013 9:04 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
A block universe does not allow for consciousness.
Indeed! How is it even possible for any part of the block to
have anything like something that is it is like to be conscious of
John,
Your rhetoric may work in other places where you argue with religious
people but I, and probably others on this list, find it rather unconvincing.
Jason
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:14 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
http://vimeo.com/51920182
Comments?
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On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:14 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
I am very glad with all your posts on religion, as they confirm my
theory according to which (strong) atheists are (strong) Christians in
disguise.
Wow,
On 1/29/2013 4:19 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:46:18PM -0500, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/29/2013 9:04 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
A block universe does not allow for consciousness.
Indeed! How is it even possible for any part of the block to
have anything like
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:57:18 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
http://vimeo.com/51920182
Comments?
Very cool. I thought it was interesting how he said that the view of the
ocean was not as nice as the supermarket shelves. To me that validates the
importance of the sense
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
A block universe does not allow for consciousness.
The fact the we all possess consciousness, so we think,
means that our universe is not
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:39:40 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Stathis Papaioannou
stat...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Richard Ruquist
yan...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
A block universe does not allow for
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:39:40 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stat...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Richard Ruquist yan...@gmail.com
This is a pretty well-worn, oft-used, school prayer. Given it is recited or
sung by the entire student body and staff at a good many schools and other
institutions you would have to assume that it's all fundamentally good stuff.
Teach us, good Lord, to serve thee as thou deserves;
to give and
On 1/29/2013 11:13 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
This is a pretty well-worn, oft-used, school prayer. Given it is recited or
sung by the entire student body and staff at a good many schools and other
institutions you would have to assume that it's all fundamentally good stuff.
Teach us, good Lord,
we do WHOSE will???
I mean, what if God turns out to be a gigantic chicken or the Michelin Man?
Are we still happy with our chosen values?
K
On 30/01/2013, at 4:01 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote:
On 1/29/2013 11:13 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
This is a pretty well-worn,
On 1/30/2013 12:06 AM, Kim Jones wrote:
we do WHOSE will???
I mean, what if God turns out to be a gigantic chicken or the Michelin Man?
Are we still happy with our chosen values?
K
Hard for Gozer the Gozerian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gozer#Gozer to be infinite, eternal,
Omnisient,
A great post Stephen thanks
Well, in fact what the post says is that the ones that sucks are the
logical positivists (and their dwarfs, the scientists), who took over the
power in Modernland.
I take this phrase, which IMHO describes very well what is inside of what
In fact, the opposite is
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