On 11/11/2013 12:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Nov 2013, at 05:52, meekerdb wrote:
3. What do you recommend if the US refuses to comply?
?? You mean the U.S. government refuses to act in the best interests of it's citizens:
Vote them out.
We could have meant that the US government
On 11/11/2013 12:15 AM, LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2013 21:07, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 10 Nov 2013, at 08:42, LizR wrote:
On 10 November 2013 18:11, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/9/2013
On 11/11/2013 1:28 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
I didn't say I didn't feel like it or that I was unwilling to do it. I
said I believed it would not be possible, with a reasonable amount of
effort, to have an informed opinion. Are you a climatologist? If not,
you seem to believe otherwise beacuse you
livered yanks.
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On 10 Nov 2013, at 05:52, meekerdb wrote:
3. What do you recommend if the US refuses
On 11/11/2013 1:47 AM, LizR wrote:
Obviously they could all be politically motivated or in the pay of mysterious socialist
organisations, and it's always possible that their modelling is wildly inaccurate, but
unless someone is actually making up the data and the measurements then /something/
Ah the apocalyptic mentality. Apocalypticists are like nationalists.
The laters think that they were born in the best possible country by pure
chance. The apocalypticists, also by pure chance, think that they are in a
pivotal moment on history where some catastrophe or something wonderful
will
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:55 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/11/2013 1:28 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
I didn't say I didn't feel like it or that I was unwilling to do it. I
said I believed it would not be possible, with a reasonable amount of
effort, to have an informed opinion.
On 11/11/2013 10:13 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Ah, but Brents' point is that smoking and cancer are proven fact. However, at the time,
Troifim Lysenko's views on biology were proven.
?? To nobody outside the Soviet Union - and only to a few there.
So were the Eugenicists that lead
On 12 November 2013 07:13, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
However, at the time, Troifim Lysenko's views on biology were proven.
I didn't realise the Russian government at the time allowed his views to be
peer reviewed and independently replicated. In fact I thought they created
a climate in which
Every science whose conclusions have effects in politics has a high risk of
being manipulated. In the URSS and here. From Anthropology to long term
Meteorology to everything in the middle. The one that does not realize that
is poor fool who does not know how the world works and has replaced with
On 11/11/2013 5:04 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Every science whose conclusions have effects in politics has a high risk of being
manipulated. In the URSS and here. From Anthropology to long term Meteorology to
everything in the middle. The one that does not realize that is poor fool who does
On 12 November 2013 14:04, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
Every science whose conclusions have effects in politics has a high risk
of being manipulated. In the URSS and here. From Anthropology to long term
Meteorology to everything in the middle. The one that does not realize
. Inside the magazine is a rather
thick envelope.
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On 11 Nov 2013, at 01:27, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Ok
it's like when there actually are rising temperatures and rising sea levels
and rising O2 and increasingly wild weather and ice melting all over the
world, you stop and say, oh hang on, maybe Fourier had a point after all
when he worked out the Greenhouse effect in 1824. Rather than just putting
On 11 Nov 2013, at 19:34, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/11/2013 12:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Nov 2013, at 05:52, meekerdb wrote:
3. What do you recommend if the US refuses to comply?
?? You mean the U.S. government refuses to act in the best
interests of it's citizens: Vote them out.
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it's like when there actually are rising temperatures and rising sea
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On 11 Nov 2013, at 18:49, spudboy...@aol.com wrote
On 12 November 2013 17:47, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
Morpheus: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back.
You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and
believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 12:31 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/9/2013 3:09 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:55 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/9/2013 9:37 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Brent, my analogy, however badly its thought-up, is to force
On 10 November 2013 21:40, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
Look, I hope global warming is not that serious, because if it is,
it's game over. Big government is most definitely not going to solve
it. I think you know this too. There isn't a magical point where to
government gets
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:12 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 November 2013 21:40, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
Look, I hope global warming is not that serious, because if it is,
it's game over. Big government is most definitely not going to solve
it. I think you know
anyway from pollution,
contamination, and a ruined environment..
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On 11/9/2013 4:53 PM
, Rock on.
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The rich get richer via the stock exchange and similar financial institutions.
This is done with software
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On 11/9/2013 5:12 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Brent, let us look at human
On 11/10/2013 12:40 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 12:31 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/9/2013 3:09 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:55 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/9/2013 9:37 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Brent, my
On 11/10/2013 1:26 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:12 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 November 2013 21:40, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
Look, I hope global warming is not that serious, because if it is,
it's game over. Big government is most
, hottest year on record, hottest decade on record etc etc
etc.
We need a ton of research into renewables and carbon sequestration
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I would say you are incorrect concerning cities which rely on one primary
power source, especially, if its local or regional. Power
and provides almost immediate relief from high energy bills.
Chris
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Name me one large city that gets its power 100% exclusively from coal or from
nuclear? You can’t because all major energy markets are fed by a mix of energy
generation capacity. Yet you keep on with this straw man
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Seriously increasing our energy efficiency is key to building a bridge to a
living future. One thing this whole discussion is overlooking -- focused as
it is, on electric
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One example might be the San Onofre plant in California
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I used to be a fan of Amory Lovins too but am concerned that better
On 09 Nov 2013, at 19:09, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
I am emphasizing having governments print out (Keynes style)
absolutely, colossal, amounts of cash, as a reward for coming up
with excellent disease treatments and cures, human solar system
tours, and clean energy solution, environmental
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 1:26 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:12 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 November 2013 21:40, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
Look, I hope global warming is not that
On 11/10/2013 12:29 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
As I said before, I am agnostic on this issue for the following reasons:
- I am not educated in climate science and I am sufficiently educated
in science to understand that it would take years of full-time effort
to get to a point where I could judge
Bruno and Brent:
*Who are you to T E L L society what it needs?*
(BTW: I agree perfectly with your position).
I had discussions on other lists in aspects of religion and gun-control and
received similar offensive repercussions. No universal machine can tell any
other universal machine how to
On 11/10/2013 1:06 PM, John Mikes wrote:
Bruno and Brent:
*_Who are you to T E L L society what it needs?_*
(BTW: I agree perfectly with your position).
I had discussions on other lists in aspects of religion and gun-control and received
similar offensive repercussions. No universal machine
Brent wrote:
What about telling society what it needs to survive? Are you telling me
fascism, socialism, and religion are bad?
(earlier):
Society needs to do something to stabilize the system and prevent the
increasing concentration of wealth.
The 3 belief systems I mentioned are
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:05 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 12:29 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
As I said before, I am agnostic on this issue for the following reasons:
- I am not educated in climate science and I am sufficiently educated
in science to understand that it
On 11/10/2013 2:19 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:05 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 12:29 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
As I said before, I am agnostic on this issue for the following reasons:
- I am not educated in climate science and I am sufficiently
Richard Lindzen from MIT is a serious academic scientist who has some
reservations about the IPCC reports
and is often labeled as a denier. I put my faith in his research. From
wiki-Lindzen:
Lindzen has expressed his concern over the validity of computer
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On 09 Nov 2013, at 19:09, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
I am emphasizing having governments print out (Keynes style) absolutely,
colossal, amounts of cash, as a reward for coming up with excellent disease
treatments and cures, human solar
, Nov 10, 2013 2:33 pm
Subject: RE: Our Demon-Haunted World
Who knows -- you may be interested in a Dutch idea to build an energy island in
the North sea by diking around an area of sea then using periods of surplus
wind power generation form the north sea offshore wind farms (of which
On 11/10/2013 4:21 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Richard Lindzen from MIT is a serious academic scientist who has some reservations about
the IPCC reports
and is often labeled as a denier. I put my faith in his research.
I hope you didn't also put your faith in those doctors who had reservations
You comment does not merit a response.
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 7:58 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 4:21 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Richard Lindzen from MIT is a serious academic scientist who has some
reservations about the IPCC reports
and is often labeled as a
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Cool, I didn't bother to look it up, but rather remembered
On 11/10/2013 4:21 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Richard Lindzen from MIT is a serious academic scientist who has some reservations about
the IPCC reports
and is often labeled as a denier. I put my faith in his research. From
wiki-Lindzen:
Lindzen has expressed his concern over the validity of
http://heartland.org/policy-documents/wikipedia-bans-real-climate-propagandist
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 8:25 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 4:21 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Richard Lindzen from MIT is a serious academic scientist who has some
reservations about the
I have looked into quite a few climate change deniers in detail, but life
is too short to show where every single one of them is cherry pickling or
misinterpretting data, and ultimately I feel justified in believing the
99.7% consensus of climate scientists on this one.
--
You received this
I think that, since the forces of progress and human dignity lost Siberia
as the location for stablishing psychiatrics to reconduct deviated enemies
of the People, The North and South poles can well be used to make global
warming negationist to reconsider is position against Humanity and human
When somebody doesn’t agree with you, do you then start insulting them?
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I think
On 08 Nov 2013, at 19:44, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/8/2013 12:10 AM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Ending the era of Prohibition will not mean kids will start smoking
pot…. Hint they already are, and have been for a long time. Ending
this dark era of Prohibition will mean that the greatest illicit
On 06 Nov 2013, at 17:25, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/6/2013 12:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is nothing wrong being rich, unless the money is stolen money, and
that's the case today.
There's nothing morally wrong with being rich, but it creates an ethical
problem. Being much wealthier than
One more remark:
the H O N E S T heirs? super-rich they may be? Do you find an honestly
accumulated heirloom to inherit? Did they work productively/honestly to be
'rich'?
JM
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 11:50 AM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06 Nov 2013, at 17:25, meekerdb wrote:
On
the Netherlands is up for this?
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On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 3:55 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote
no where except at
Disney World. Naw. This is about getting the thinker to be realists, and not
dreamers.
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substitutes are non substitutes.
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On 09 Nov 2013, at 17:50, John Mikes wrote:
On 06 Nov 2013, at 17:25, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/6/2013 12:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is nothing wrong being rich, unless the money is stolen
money, and that's the case today.
There's nothing morally wrong with being rich, but it
, in payment, 5 years
later.
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On 06 Nov 2013, at 02:43, LizR wrote:
On 6 November 2013 14:38, spudboy...@aol.com
On 09 Nov 2013, at 17:56, John Mikes wrote:
One more remark:
the H O N E S T heirs? super-rich they may be? Do you find an
honestly accumulated heirloom to inherit? Did they work productively/
honestly to be 'rich'?
That's an interesting question. It is a particular case of can we
-Scandal
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mailto:everything-list
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Brent, my analogy, however badly its thought-up
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Chris, I just read a study by the U of Colorado, published
On 11/9/2013 4:29 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 3:55 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/8/2013 5:48 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
If you hold the Rational Optimist view aka Matt Ridley, people will act
altruistic much more, if they get a reward, then in they get
On 11/9/2013 8:50 AM, John Mikes wrote:
I don't see a 'productive' way how 'the rich' get more wealth and power by using their
wealth and power.
If they risk their money on some development or invention that is successful that's
productive and there must be some potential profit in it,
On 11/9/2013 9:37 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Brent, my analogy, however badly its thought-up, is to force the idealists to produce.
My idea was to force the idealist back to painful reality and hard choices, rather then
mentally living in La La land. Saying Oh they're working on solar and
On 11/9/2013 9:50 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Chris, I just read a study by the U of Colorado, published in the Journal, Bioscience,
claiming that up to 1 million bats have been killed by green energy wind turbines.
?? And that is significant compared to what? Nine million birds killed each
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On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 12:50 PM, lt;spudboy...@aol.comgt; wrote:
Chris, I just read a study by the U of Colorado, published in the
Journal, Bioscience, claiming that up to 1 million bats have been
killed by green
. Peking, Boston, Tokyo, Moscow? Brussels? Miami?
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[mailto:everything
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:55 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/9/2013 9:37 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Brent, my analogy, however badly its thought-up, is to force the idealists
to produce. My idea was to force the idealist back to painful reality and
hard choices, rather then
On 11/9/2013 2:49 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Yes, Jesse, I do buy into that arguement. If you permit me, I will exclude DailyKos Kos
Kids from your evidence, as the are far from a disinterested party in this matter.
Whatever the politics, whatever the polemics, a technology has to do this,
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OK, a polemicist. Now tell me what
On 11/9/2013 3:09 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:55 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/9/2013 9:37 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Brent, my analogy, however badly its thought-up, is to force the idealists
to produce. My idea was to force the idealist back to
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On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 12:50 PM, lt;spudboy...@aol.comgt; wrote:
Chris, I just read a study by the U of Colorado, published in the Journal,
Bioscience, claiming that up to 1 million
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On 11/9/2013 3:09 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote
?
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want to hear what we all can do?
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On 11/9/2013 9:37 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote
capitalism is great for some things, but it's
not going
to invest in developing stuff with a 20yr horizon for return.
Brent
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, and really does the job, and not just
bright promises. We are thinking about human survival, you know?
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the cost you impose on the public.
Brent
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On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:49 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Yes, Jesse, I do buy into that arguement.
Which one? The idea that declining prices of solar panels are bad news for
solar
On 10 November 2013 12:34, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you just assuming the future will be like the past, or do you have any
other basis for predicting solar will always be just a fraction of world
energy?
Jesse
There is no rational basis for this belief because solar
The rich get richer via the stock exchange and similar financial
institutions. This is done with software nowadays - a thousandth of a
second delay in investing can mean the difference between accumulating and
losing. This doesn't actually produce improvements in anything (except
financial
On 11/9/2013 4:53 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Your basically saying I am wrong for no contestable reason, you have no city in the
world to cite to me that is powered by solar power or wind, for that matter,
And there are none powered exclusively by hydroelectric power either. It's a
On 11/9/2013 5:12 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Brent, let us look at human nature as it exists and not posit perfection to scientists
and bureaucrats. Climate scientist who peddle AGW have skin in the game. What's their
reward? They get guaranteed jobs and do the planning and make policies if
On 11/9/2013 5:27 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Good point. But it wasn't entirely a command economy that achieved these technical wins.
In other words you can say Sputnik in 57, but everything you listed appears to have had
a capitalist basis. NASA could not have gotten off the ground withoutr
On 11/9/2013 6:13 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Let me ask you Jesse do you suggest any substitute that we can turn to for transforming
world civilization to clean power? The only significant thing I can think of, would be
hiring Craig Venter to produce some methane or hydrogen maker, that can,
On 11/9/2013 8:17 PM, LizR wrote:
The rich get richer via the stock exchange and similar financial institutions. This is
done with software nowadays - a thousandth of a second delay in investing can mean the
difference between accumulating and losing. This doesn't actually produce improvements
On 10 November 2013 18:11, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/9/2013 6:13 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Let me ask you Jesse do you suggest any substitute that we can turn to for
transforming world civilization to clean power? The only significant thing
I can think of, would be
On 10 November 2013 14:12, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Brent, let us look at human nature as it exists and not posit perfection
to scientists and bureaucrats. Climate scientist who peddle AGW have skin
in the game. What's their reward? They get guaranteed jobs and do the
planning and make
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On 11/7/2013 9:57 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
So if Florida
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On 06 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Exactly. Already the techniques of social engineering are far more
advanced than they were even as recently as Goebbels time – and he
advanced the art of the Big Lie and of mass media propaganda
On 07 Nov 2013, at 23:12, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/6/2013 6:42 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Either all humans enjoy human rights or none do.
Human rights are a human invention.
Human inventions are a human invention.
Bruno
As soon as a class of persons is created that are stripped of
-- as if they would.
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Those plucky Canadians -- as you term them -- are criminally
destroying vast
swaths of Alberta
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On 07 Nov 2013, at 03:32, Chris de Morsella wrote:
The problem of any
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On 08 Nov 2013, at 03:44, Chris de Morsella
Marchal
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Hi Chris,
I can't agree more. If we look at the history of prohibition, it is always
either a political tools, or unfair economy, or a way for bandits to steal
money
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Those plucky Canadians -- as you term them -- are criminally
destroying vast swaths of Alberta turning it into a poisoned chemical
saturated moonscape as well as sucking up vast amounts of water from
other potential uses -- including agriculture
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