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Re: Evil ? (was: Hypostases (was: Natural Order Belief)

2007-01-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 29-déc.-06, à 16:41, Jef Allbright a écrit : Bruno - It appears that you and I have essential agreement on our higher-level epistemology. It is possible. Note that in general those who appreciates the hypotheses I build on, does not like so much the conclusion, and vice versa, those

Re: Evil ? (was: Hypostases (was: Natural Order Belief)

2007-01-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 29-déc.-06, à 10:57, Tom Caylor a écrit : Just to clear this up, my above statement was not meant to be an argument. I purposefully used the word entail rather than imply. I wasn't saying that you cannot believe in some kind of truth without believing in the personal God. However is

Re: computer pain

2007-01-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 30-déc.-06, à 07:53, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : there is no contradiction in a willing slave being intelligent. It seems to me there is already a contradiction with the notion of willing slave. I would say a willing slave is just what we call a worker. Or something related to

Re: computer pain

2007-01-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 30-déc.-06, à 17:07, 1Z a écrit : Brent Meeker wrote: Everything starts with assumptions. The questions is whether they are correct. A lunatic could try defining 2+2=5 as valid, but he will soon run into inconsistencies. That is why we reject 2+2=5. Ethical rules must apply to

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-01-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 30-déc.-06, à 22:32, Tom Caylor a écrit : snip ... On the other hand, I see many people die because they judge that life is not worth living. I see others paradoxically getting killed for the ideas or illusions that give them a reason for living (what is called a reason for living is

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-01-01 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi John: One example of what I am saying would be the way we drill holes in the earth and pump out oil and oxidize it and the resulting energy flux soon dissipates, can do little more useful work, and radiates into space. If the oil was left in place it could be many millions of years

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-01-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 31-déc.-06, à 04:59, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit (to Tom Caylor): Of course: questions of personal meaning are not scientific questions. Physics may show you how to build a nuclear bomb, but it won't tell you whether you should use it. But Physics, per se, is not supposed to answer

Re: computer pain

2007-01-01 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: ... Pain is limited on both ends: on the input by damage to the physical circuitry and on the response by the possible range of response. Responses in the brain are limited by several mechanisms, such as exhaustion of neurotransmitter stores at synapses, negative

RE: computer pain

2007-01-01 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Bruno Marchal writes: Le 30-déc.-06, à 07:53, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : there is no contradiction in a willing slave being intelligent. It seems to me there is already a contradiction with the notion of willing slave. I would say a willing slave is just what we call a worker. Or

RE: The Meaning of Life

2007-01-01 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Bruno Marchal writes: Le 31-déc.-06, à 04:59, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit (to Tom Caylor): Of course: questions of personal meaning are not scientific questions. Physics may show you how to build a nuclear bomb, but it won't tell you whether you should use it. But Physics, per se, is

RE: computer pain

2007-01-01 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Brent Meeker writes: Pain is limited on both ends: on the input by damage to the physical circuitry and on the response by the possible range of response. Responses in the brain are limited by several mechanisms, such as exhaustion of neurotransmitter stores at synapses, negative

Re: computer pain

2007-01-01 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Brent Meeker writes: Pain is limited on both ends: on the input by damage to the physical circuitry and on the response by the possible range of response. Responses in the brain are limited by several mechanisms, such as exhaustion of neurotransmitter

RE: computer pain

2007-01-01 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Brent Meeker writes: Brent Meeker writes: Pain is limited on both ends: on the input by damage to the physical circuitry and on the response by the possible range of response. Responses in the brain are limited by several mechanisms, such as exhaustion of neurotransmitter

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-01-01 Thread Mark Peaty
SP: ' In the end, what is right is an irreducible personal belief, which you can try to change by appeal to emotions or by example, but not by appeal to logic or empirical facts. And in fact I feel much safer that way: if someone honestly believed that he knew what was right as surely as he