Re: Re: Re: Re: The pro-life paradox

2012-12-21 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Richard Ruquist That is specified in my Living Will [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/21/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-20, 14:59:18

Retransmit. How visual images are produced in the brain. Was Dennett right after all ?

2012-12-21 Thread Roger Clough
Apparently this was not all transmitted previously . this is a retransmit for Telmo Have received the following content - Sender: Roger Clough Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-19, 09:45:37 Subject: How visual images are produced in the brain. Was Dennett right after all ? Hi

Re: Retransmit. How visual images are produced in the brain. Was Dennett right after all ?

2012-12-21 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Telmo, My error. The method of displaying the optical signal as given below wouldn't work, because there'd be no sync signals on the optical signal to trigger the playback scan. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/21/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody

More on reconstruction from brain activity

2012-12-21 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Telmo Menezes You're right, I got the scanning part all wrong. You can find sites that may tell more by Googling on Reconstruction from brain activity Apparently they use complex brain modelling programs with complex AI to somehow get images. While they have had some (presumably

Re: On the need for perspective and relations in modelling the mind

2012-12-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Dec 2012, at 17:40, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal This is just an intuition. IMHO conventional physics and math applies to this bifurcated world, where every action produces a reaction, the world is objective/subjective, magnetic monopoles are impossible, etc.,etc. I am not

Re: the only truth we can understand is a man-made object

2012-12-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Dec 2012, at 17:53, meekerdb wrote: On 12/20/2012 1:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: People agree that 2+2=4 because it is a simple truth which follow from simple definition. But that makes it conditional on the definition (axioms). Trivially. Usually we prefer not see a definition as

Re: The pro-life paradox

2012-12-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Dec 2012, at 18:41, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal There is a gray area called quality of life. OK. Nice. Should I take this as a statement that there are some cases where you would not oppose to euthanasia? Everything of value, all colors, are in that gray area, I think.

Definition of a liberal

2012-12-21 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King A liberal is a person who fears that somehow, somewhere, somebody has secretly figured out a way to do something on their own. A liberal is a person who believes that you need a blueprint to tie your shoes. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/21/2012 Forever

Re: Re: On the need for perspective and relations in modelling the mind

2012-12-21 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal I am suggestings that such quandries be resolved on multiple levels in the same universe, not multiple universes. Occam's Razor. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/21/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following

Re: Re: The pro-life paradox

2012-12-21 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal Just as in jurisprudence, sometimes there are no easy answers. I am a Christian, and so oppose euthanasia as contrary to the Ten Commandments. But others presumably do not share that belief. And even I might break the commandment (to my peril) in exceptional cases. It is not

Definition of a liberal

2012-12-21 Thread Roger Clough
Definition of a liberal A liberal is a person who fears that somehow, somewhere, somebody has secretly figured out a way to do something on their own. A liberal is a person who believes that you need a blueprint to tie your shoes. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/21/2012

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Dec 2012, at 19:01, Roger Clough wrote: Hi A simpler way to make my point is the axiom that no information can be stand alone, it must have context to give it meaning. The information needs a universal machine to interpret it. Universal machines needs also a universal machine to be

Re: Definition of a liberal

2012-12-21 Thread John Clark
A liberal is a conservative who's been drafted and a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To

Re: the only truth we can understand is a man-made object

2012-12-21 Thread meekerdb
On 12/21/2012 7:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Come on. You could demolish Einstein special relativity with remark like that. --Mister Einstein, we member of the jury are not convinced by your thesis. There is a definite lack of rigor. Clearly E = mc^2 will not work with 2 interpreted by 2

RE: Re: clearing up the confusion on the fairness index

2012-12-21 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Roger : Then Try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_in_the_United_States Hal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send

Re: Progressives and social darwinism

2012-12-21 Thread Spudboy100
On the McDonald's example, please realize that corporations that support Obama have been given reign to opt-out of his national med plan. Based on this, let us realize, that in the US, we are seeing, not a military0industrial complex, of Eisenhower's fear, but another sort of oligarchy,

Interesting facts about Galileo

2012-12-21 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
I listen to Galileo by John L. Heilbron. Below are two interesting facts from the book together with links that I have found in Internet. 1) Galileo about Inferno Galileo has started his scientific career with a speech about how Inferno looks like where he has applied his mathematical genius

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-21 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: The infinite set of natural numbers is not stored on anything, Which causes no problem because there is not a infinite number of anything in the observable universe, probably not even points in space. no information can

Re: Progressives and social darwinism

2012-12-21 Thread meekerdb
On 12/18/2012 4:26 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: On the McDonald's example, please realize that corporations that support Obama have been given reign to opt-out of his national med plan. The waivers are only good for one year and the Administration already said last Sept it was doing away