The 'Blue Velvet' director and self-described 'bliss ninny' talks meditation
and music
What aspect of the Foundation are you proudest of?
Well, all of it. Transcendental meditation is for human beings, and it
transforms life for the good, no matter who you are or what your situation is.
For
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrxPuk0JefA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrxPuk0JefA
http://www.nationofchange.org/robin-hood-tax-take-back-our-economy-1393344562
http://www.nationofchange.org/robin-hood-tax-take-back-our-economy-1393344562
Beautiful song by Mike Love
https://soundcloud.com/mikelovemusic-3/mike-love-pisces-brothers
https://soundcloud.com/mikelovemusic-3/mike-love-pisces-brothers
Beautiful song by Mike Love:
https://soundcloud.com/mikelovemusic-3/mike-love-pisces-brothers
https://soundcloud.com/mikelovemusic-3/mike-love-pisces-brothers
Can I wear green tights? I look good in green tights.
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http://www.nationofchange.org/robin-hood-tax-take-back-our-economy-1393344562
http://www.nationofchange.org/robin-hood-tax-take-back-our-economy-1393344562
Only about 11 minutes long, this film takes a fascinating look at a society in
which one gender rules, while the other is subjected to derision, disrespect,
and sexual abuse, all while the ruling gender treats it as normal and does
absolutely nothing about it.
I'm sure you look positively Errol Flynn-esque in green tights, Salyavin. But
the thought of Nabby or any other TM Purusha type wearing green tights makes me
want to wash my brain. :-)
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To:
Yikes! Is this our future?! A sky full of drones?!
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 9:56 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
;-)
http://youtu.be/ucz3JpvDQjk
Yes, I see what you mean, asanas and sipping hot water are no substitute for
decent exercise. It's just as well the TMO can cause positive social change
with their minds
Good choice of picture again, I wonder just how camp it's possible to make a
macho dude?
---In
There is difference between Theology and Theism.
Theology is study of religions. Theism is study on the
existence of God. In Cudworth's definition, they are
strictly and properly called Theists, who affirm, that a
perfectly conscious understanding being, or mind, existing
of itself from
The article had 'enlightenment' in the title, but the use of the word in the
article was absent, there was no discussion of it per se, other than the usual
if you meditate, things will be peachy. So it is left up to the reader to
somehow connect the two.
On 2/26/2014 12:50 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
So, stealing people's land is your idea of world peace? Go figure.
Nobody should own the land since it all belongs to God, so I'm
personally not that big on nationalism of any kind. If anyone should own
the land around here where I live it should
There is actually a much simpler solution, although it will never happen -- The
investor class, those who, own most of the wealth in the USA, do not work, and
are taxed at the lowest rate possible, despite earning the largest incomes,
only pay 15% on their capital gains (income). If the rate
Yes, starting next year. Unfortunately, their optics are so good, and they are
so small, that we will not be able to easily use them for target practice.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:
Yikes! Is this our future?! A sky full of drones?!
On Tuesday,
From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
On 2/26/2014 12:50 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
So, stealing people's land is your idea of
You can see the effects of holding the belief that god is impersonal, Spinoza
was kicked out of his synagogue as a result of his writings. Bertrand Russell
did not agree with Spinoza, but called him 'the most lovable of all
philosophers'. Here is the cheerful record of his censure:
The Lords
Recently, I read about a new surveillance program, using optics and software,
that makes it possible, with a continuously flying platform, to track every
vehicle and human being within *five square miles* - all of them. Fairfield
would be exceptionally easy to bring on line. Of course the
In any case, She is a Landlady, actually...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:
From: Richard J. Williams punditster@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria
Hey Sal, what is the name of the other vastu village in England, is it the
place the Skelmersdale folk went to after they discovered the hill was too high?
Sweet... Jai Guru Dev and Harvey Krishna
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:20 AM, nablusoss1008
no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Beautiful song by Mike Love
https://soundcloud.com/mikelovemusic-3/mike-love-pisces-brothers
I note to U that no corporation ever pays any tax it the tax bill they may pay
is passed on the their customers in higher prices. This method distorts the
level playing board. I also now those who invest in successful companies
receive dividends are taxed 2 time once corporaprately again as
I got them on the 2nd Age of Enlightenment or Six month course which started
in Biaritz France, later moving to Fueregan Switzerland and ending up some
place else in France. Some were taught by Billy Clayton and others by M .
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:48 PM, Michael Jackson
Almost along the lines of the pearly teeth, on the dead dog, of Brahmananda
Saraswati fame:
http://tinyurl.com/lbo5ovo http://tinyurl.com/lbo5ovo
Doc, the whole thing is ridiculous and obsessive and some madman's idea, not to
mention a huge waste of taxpayer money! IMO!
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:33 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
Recently, I read about a new surveillance program,
On 2/25/2014 3:21 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
This article misrepresents the smarta sampradaya.
We should probably get into the details of this Advaita Vedanta system
and sort it all out, since this is the tradition TMers are supposed to
be interested in. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati the
Rendlesham in Suffolk.
Here's a pic:
https://coherenttimes.wordpress.com/tag/rendlesham/
Looks rather nice now the greenery has grown up a bit.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:
Hey Sal, what is the name of the other vastu village in England, is it the
Ah, those stupid Palestinians sitting in their stinking, overcrowded refugee
camps gazing over the wire at their stolen family homes must be happy that
you've got such a convenient excuse for anyone doing anything about it. It's
all god's land anyway, he said so in a non-classical,
I'm afraid the WW III has already begun (Russia + Eastern Ukraine vs. NATO + W.
Ukraine)??
Ah well, bound to happen sooner or later.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote:
I'm afraid the WW III has already begun (Russia + Eastern Ukraine vs. NATO +
W. Ukraine)??
News of Maharishi's Global Country of World Peace in Great Britain
28 July 2007
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi reopens
his Transcendental Meditation Centres
throughout the UK
'My leaders will resume their national services immediately and raise Great
Britain to the height of great Invincibility.'
Did they work real good?
On Wed, 2/26/14, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A of E Techniques
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 26, 2014, 3:05 PM
On 2/26/2014 5:53 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
the thought of Nabby or any other TM Purusha type wearing green tights
makes me want to wash my brain. :-)
What exactly, are you doing thinking about men in tights, or anybody's
under pants, tight or loose, or green or gold? :-)
On 2/26/2014 8:22 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
If it all belongs to God, and he's all-powerful, I think we have to
state for the record that he's a pretty shitty landlord:
God, who by definition is all-powerful, owns the land but humans are
supposed to be the managers of the land. It's like
Are there two Rendleshams in England? Most of what comes up when searching is
UFO stuff - do they have both yogic flying, vastu ved AND UFOs galore?? It must
be Nabby's dream come true.
On Wed, 2/26/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
I must admit that it [Rendlesham...see photo at bottom] looks kinda ghastly.
All that symmetry and sameness feels oppressive to me, as if the whole thing
is inside some kind of lifeless Truman dome created by an autistic,
obessive-compulsive designer/architect.
In a city, I tend to
On 2/26/2014 5:41 AM, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
this film takes a fascinating look at a society in which one gender
rules, while the other is subjected to derision, disrespect, and
sexual abuse, all while the ruling gender treats it as normal and does
absolutely nothing about it.
It looks
Sal: Can I wear green tights? I look good in green tights.
Only if you use a codpiece.
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/01/bringing-back-the-codpiece/
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/01/bringing-back-the-codpiece/
It's looking more and more to be the end of the CD and the DVD disc as we
know it - be sure to save a few for coasters and for craft projects. Soon,
everything will be one the cloud available for .99 cents, so who would need
a store, mail or a drone? Go figure.
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On Tue,
On 2/26/2014 8:00 AM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote:
There is difference between Theology and Theism.
According to what I've read, Hinduism is sometimes considered to be be
polytheistic. That's because the Smartas, the leading sect in India,
follow the Advaita Vedanta in which there is a basic
On 2/26/2014 8:18 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
If the rate were raised to just 20% on their profits, we would no
longer have deficit spending, and the 1% of the 1% would never feel it.
In general, I'm opposed to taxation on income and property, but I'd
consider supporting a
On 2/26/2014 8:20 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
their optics are so good, and they are so small, that we will not be
able to easily use them for target practice.
It will never fly - nobody is going to wait twenty seconds to download a
movie disk when they could get it in 100 Mbps
Codpiece... LOL!
I guess ther could be anything from a minnowpiece to a balugapiece as well.
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:29 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com
emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
Sal: Can I wear green tights? I look good in green tights.
Only if you use a codpiece.
On 2/26/2014 9:56 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
Did they work real good?
Apparently they worked real good since they were able to bring down the
Berlin Wall.
All it takes is to be able to *cause change at will* using the mind's
own mental powers. With a mind that is perfectly coherent a person
Of course this is a video Netflix made to spoof Amazon's proposed drone
delivery system.
On 02/26/2014 04:22 AM, Share Long wrote:
Yikes! Is this our future?! A sky full of drones?!
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 9:56 PM, Bhairitu
noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
;-)
and noozguru, of course I knew that all along! (-:
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:05 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
Of course this is a video Netflix made to spoof Amazon's proposed drone
delivery system.
On 02/26/2014 04:22 AM, Share Long wrote:
Yikes! Is this our
Yes, as I said I don't like the grid layout because all the windows line up and
it's like being watched. Very odd feeling. That pic gives a false impression
too because the small development is surrounded by higgeldy piggeldy normal
homes and it's all a bit chaotic.
I like how cities and
A flat tax is nothing for the rich to pay but disastrous for the poor.
I'm for a progressive tax like there was during the Eisenhower era. It
discouraged money hoarding. The investment transaction tax is also a
good idea. Stop sucking up to the money hoarders, Willy. You keep
saying the
Or maybe living simply so you can simply live. You keep sayin' the rent
is too damn high. And it sounds like Rita brings home the bread in your
household. Go figure.
On 02/26/2014 08:12 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
On 2/26/2014 5:41 AM, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
this film takes a
On 2/26/2014 10:01 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
All that symmetry and sameness feels oppressive to me
It's called Town Planning - that's where a town or city is planned to
make sense; where roads and streets are laid out in a logical manner
with plenty of room to get around. There's nothing like
On 2/26/2014 9:38 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm afraid the WW III has already begun (Russia + Eastern Ukraine vs.
NATO + W. Ukraine)??
There may not be enough money for the Russians to conduct a war since
most of the oil and gas money comes from shipping through the Ukraine to
I had pretty nice experiences with them. Others did as well. One of them is
found in the Shiva Purana (not going to say which one or where). I also lifted
-off once before the Sidhis were taught. I was laying down after meditation
when kundalini started in my solar plexus and weightlessness
On 2/26/2014 9:55 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
Unless every sovereign country is invincible in its own right, the
sovereignty of any nation will always remain fragile and world peace
will always be elusive.
It looks like MMY was correct in his assessment - world peace will
always be elusive.
On 2/26/2014 8:00 AM, jedi_spock@... mailto:jedi_spock@... wrote:
There is difference between Theology and Theism.
--- WillyTex punditster@... wrote:
According to what I've read, Hinduism is sometimes considered to be be
polytheistic. That's because the Smartas, the leading sect in
Thanks for finding that MJ, it does one good to be reminded of just how
deluded old Ozymandias - I mean Marshy was. Will the world ever see his like
again?
Maharishi saw the words and actions of the new Government as an expression of
the changed quality of national consciousness in
A friend of mine that lives down the street says that there are a few basic
things that anyone can do to protect their home. First, crooks hate light.
Always leave a light on in your house at night or on the front and back
porch. Did I tell you to lock your doors? An ideal security system will
And I missed the obvious contradiction, you can't stop feeding nectar to the
scorpion and then claim it was your nectar that changed the consciousness of
the country. Duh, I'm half asleep today.
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Thanks for finding that
On 2/26/2014 11:16 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
You keep saying the rent is too damn high.
And the tax code is too damn complex - everyone should be equal under
the law. That's what I think.
Oh I'm so glad I posted that! Thanks Sal!
On Wed, 2/26/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: A Red Letter Day for England
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 26, 2014, 6:22 PM
If John Bunyan and Spinoza were born in india, they would
have been considered as saints.
I remember reading Bunyan's book pilgrim's progress in a
comic book form (pictographical) way back in the 1980's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pilgrim's_Progress
I think those of us in America are not really in the loop about what the GOrdon
Brown administration has brought to Merry Old England
On Wed, 2/26/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: A Red Letter Day for
Well, how was it that the TM Sidhi practice and all other TM related activities
had allowed England to become the Scorpion Nation to begin with?
You think maybe some Brit on Marshy's staff snuck off and watched the Scorpion
King movie and Marshy heard him talking about, and in his advanced
Russell Simmons and his TM practice are on today's front page of News.Yahoo.com:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/newsmakers/russell-simmons-key-happiness-takes-40-minutes-day-221454646.html?vp=1
It is too complex. It's been gamed by the rich and the corporations so
they can get off paying less and make us peons pay more. Not fair or
democratic at all. Billionairism is a disease.
On 02/26/2014 10:33 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
On 2/26/2014 11:16 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
You keep
GB and Tony Blair made a pact that TB would be PM as he was more media
friendly and then GB would take over. TB secretly thought GB was a bit hopeless
and went back on the deal fearing that Labour would lose the second election.
This pissed of GB and he started scheming and plotting to get
so what is the non-meditating atmosphere like in Rendlesham as compared to
Skelmersdale - about the same or more upscale?
On Wed, 2/26/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Question for Sal
To:
Among the many different forms, Simmons said he teaches mantra-based meditation
in which someone sits quietly and repeats a single word – in his case, “Rum” –
for a period of 20 minutes. He has one meditation session in the morning at his
Los Angeles home, then drives over to his ex-wife
Can you see the Youtube link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFR19lrZMlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFR19lrZMlg
The whole Scorpionland thing was pathetic, it made me sad to see all these TM
teachers running round like headless chickens having to ring the national
office about what they could or couldn't do and after years or decades of
supposedly learning how to think and act from a deep level. It really
Pizza Berlusconi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kotipizza_Berlusconi.JPG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kotipizza_Berlusconi.JPG
Pizza Berlusconi.
Pizza Berlusconi is Kotipizza's name for its smoked reindeer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reindeer pizza. With Pizza Berlusconi,
You mean the local area? Much nicer from my POV, a nice lower middle class
town, it's not posh but not run down like parts of Skem. No obvious lowlifes
wandering about and a great many more cars. I'd feel more at home than in Skem.
Are you thinking of moving over here?
---In
Gosh, I can't imagine why the codpiece went out of fashion. Those sleeves are
fetching too, I can see a new look for summer!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:
Sal: Can I wear green tights? I look good in green tights.
Only if you use a codpiece.
I think the embeded youtube doesn't showup in mail.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote:
Can you see the Youtube link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFR19lrZMlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFR19lrZMlg
Oops! I listened while cooking lunch and enjoyed, much as in Russell Simmons'
previous interviews endorsing TM, his descriptions of the value he's found from
doing TM 20 minutes twice daily for 20 years, as well as meditating with his
daughters for the past three years. Although I noticed his
Ram is a common shanti mantra given to the general public. The
journalist probably heard it wrong as Rum which is hilarious and might
might make someone drunk. According to some including Bhavagan Das in
his autobiography Maharishi used Ram in the first days of TM. The
reason TM uses beej
On 2/26/2014 12:49 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
how was it that the TM Sidhi practice and all other TM related
activities had allowed England to become the Scorpion Nation to begin
with?
It takes some serious TMSP in order to go from being a Scorpion Nation
to being a heaven on earth with TM
I'll go, It'll be the Crimean war all over again!. I'm a veteran of long
courses and could do with a holiday.
Into the valley of death hopped the six hundred etc...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
On 2/26/2014 12:49 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
how was it that
I think that the embeded youtube doesn't show up in mail.
Maharishi's Main Message - Dr. Tony Nader
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqM9sxQD_EE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqM9sxQD_EE
It shows up on the page but I'm not getting links from Bill Leeds and sometimes
Xeno, don't know what's up with it as mine come out OK.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote:
I think that the embeded youtube doesn't show up in mail.
Maharishi's Main Message - Dr. Tony
Ha ha! Not at this time and were I to relocate to Merrye Olde Englande, it
certainly would not be anywhere near any vastu ved outifts, unless I thought I
could help some of the denizens escape.
On Wed, 2/26/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
But he warn't good enuff to be Englands raja - looks like some of the regular
royals might ahve a bone to pick with someone claiming to be the vedic king of
England, come to think of it.
On Wed, 2/26/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
In Sanskrit, vowels save the short a-sound are pure. I guess another way to
express
that is they are non-reduced.
I'm quite certain that for native speakers of English the impurity of the
short
a-sound in Sanskrit is easier to hear than for those whose native languages
have only pure
vowel
These guys don't want to escape, they love it. You should go for a course and
see if you get back into it, might be a revelation The raja lives there and
you have to stand up when he enters the room. I can see you getting into that.
I wonder what it would take to get back into the TMO as a
Very nice, Yogananda called it a portable heaven or ever new joy.
Come one! You are surely bullshitting - the TM people HAVE to stand up when the
raja enters a room?? I would knock him on his ass and walk out.
On Wed, 2/26/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Question for
Ram rhymes with Tom while Rum rhymes with bum. Also it is
highly improvable the writer knows ANY Sanskrit. :-D
On 02/26/2014 01:01 PM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:
In Sanskrit, vowels save the short a-sound are pure. I guess another
way to express
that is they are non-reduced.
I'm quite
Don't apologize! Its great to see someone who has been paraded around by Lynch
yapping about TM for the past few years apparently defecting and teaching his
own brand of mantra meditation. I mean after all, if TM is so great, why
doesn't Rush just become a certified TM Governor and teach
Well, hell, old Marshy always said the mantra didn't matter, so I think I'll
meditate to bourbon tonight. Ora maybe tequila and if that works I'll make
up some sutras like tequila with an amrit chaser and see can I walk through a
wall.
On Wed,
Nah
In high school everyone was already chanting the shakti form of the vahni-bija
- rah rah shish koom bah or the really secret high school mantra - rama longa
ding dong. Must be why all the time they wanted to eat and have sex. It wasn't
the hormones after all.
Just the short uh (as in ə -
Is this what you learned or are you willing to say?Full Age of Enlightenment
Technique
After T[ranscendental]M[editation]S[idhi]P[rogram]:
Place attention on the following in sequence:
• Nostrils
• Lips
• Ears
• Eyes
• Between Brows
• Top of head
•
I suspect that might be the reason that life in a vastu village may not suit
you! But stand up they do.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:
Come one! You are surely bullshitting - the TM people HAVE to stand up when
the raja enters a room?? I would knock him on his
Given the amount of PR Rush has given the TMO over the years, reckon they'll
reciprocate by having the rajas encourage all the TM'ers in the world to buy
Simmon's book on non-TM meditation?
Reckon the MUM bookstore will carry it and the Peace Palaces? Might could get a
discount if you paid in
Robert Palmer - Respect Yourself
http://youtu.be/af0XKu88YTE
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The will of SBS was not disputed by the VHP. The VHP fully supported Guru
Dev's successor Swami Shantanada Saraswati as the Shankaracharya of
Jyotirmath. In an interview with Robert Kropinsky the Swami Swaroopanand
has stated that Guru Dev left a will which clearly specified the names of
those
A King never desires to be God Krishna, but a King would desire to be God's
servant. The very highest calling for anyone in the bhakti movement is to
serve the Lord. Ramakrishna once remarked that he wanted to taste sugar,
not be sugar. Thus the Vaishnavas came to be called 'rasiks', as in the
But only a few are in the habitable zone. Will they find life, albeit
intelligent ones, in those exoplanets?
http://news.yahoo.com/population-known-alien-planets-nearly-doubles-nasa-discovers-191250870.html
Char-dhama - Badrinath
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http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/features/08-12/features2552.htm
The image of Shri Badri Narayana at Badrika, Himalayas, India, which lies
on the right bank of the river Alaknanda, is fashioned out of a Saligram
stone. Shri Badri Narayana is seated
In 2013, for the first time in the 55-year-history of the Billboard Hot
100, not one black artist lodged a number-one single. Go figure.
Maybe someone will invent a whole new word for it, and it will evolve to
the point that it sounds so different from our traditional understanding of
hip-hop
On 2/26/2014 3:38 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
I think I'll meditate to bourbon tonight. Ora maybe tequila and if
that works I'll make up some sutras like tequila with an amrit
chaser and see can I walk through a wall.
We all do what we can for world peace. Go figure.
On 2/26/2014 3:02 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
You should go for a course and see if you get back into it
Do they have any openings for kitchen help or computer repair at the
vastu outfit?
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