[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-12 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/11/06 11:58 PM, hyperbolicgeometry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At any rate, I don't even accept the supposed fact of your own Enlightenment. Here's an E'd person. You can't hold a candle to him:

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'

2006-06-12 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/12/06 11:33:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A friend dropped in to the chat room on Anorexic Ann's website. By the time he left they were ready to kill him. :) Great sport:

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'

2006-06-12 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/12/06 3:22:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , MDixon6569@, MDi In a message dated 6/12/06

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Another wrinkle: what exactly does able to do the siddhis actually mean in the context of Unity consciousness? Does it really mean on demand? Who's demand? If Unity consciousness is as MMY describes it,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the first time in many years the murder rate has risen in the U.S. Could this have something to do with some 'collective karma'? Could the rise in U.S. caused deaths in Iraq, be coming back in this form?

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Agreed. The point I enjoy making over and over here on FFL is Enlightenment is available to all of us, not just the members of some spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Ever hear of Ramanujan? PBS did a fascinating special on him years ago. He

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'

2006-06-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip All her hate is going to burn her up one of these days. It looks like that has begun to happen. When I saw her speaking with Matt Lauer(sp?) on TV, her typically fierce but focused expression had been transformed into

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otherwise maybe we all have the siddhis and nature has not needed us to show them? You would know it without a shadow of a doubt if you did. They come up spontaneously when 'nature calls'- no thinking about it

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip the primary text on jivan-mukti (CC) and videha-mukti (UC) in the Shank. trad. warns siddhis (esp. yogic flying) will increase our power-of-delusion (maya-shakti). Absolutely right, and it is this increased power of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there is a line between internal experience, which is tougher to verify, and an external event that can be wittnessed by others don't you think? snip Hi, a line between internal and external experience,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, there could be a good deal of semantic ambiguity here, in light of how MMY defines Unity consciousness. In other words: Does he have the ability to want to do siddhis on demand, independently of what nature

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: However, there could be a good deal of semantic ambiguity here, in light

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think there is a line between internal experience

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So assuming that the siddhis are possible, and have something to do with enlightenment, why do you assume that ANYONE alive can doe them? Are you under the impression that there are fully enlightened people alive

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, of course. And the experience of Self realization is nothing more than reaching a level of functioning where this is unimpeded. Nothing more than just that. Practice makes perfect. This idea of a level of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for taking the time to discuss this fascinating topic! snip Sure thing! Anyway, regardless of what your goals are, would they be satisfied if you witnessed a rigorously proven demonstration of the sidhis?

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This reification of a concept of some 'nature' is a fallacy. Nature=the sum total of relative existence; infinite time and infinite space, and infinite manifestation. After enlightenment, there is not much ownership, it

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fully enlightened people alive right now are all dead. ---Not so. So? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Oh, OK- Got it. So my question back is, what practical difference in your life would it make if you witnessed someone, even yourself

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipshe was so threatened by the fact that she was seeing these things and that they *weren't* being done by *her* teacher (Maharishi) that she just blotted them out and refused to ever deal with the experience. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquiseB writes snipped: Life is *full* of contradictions. So, as far as I can tell, is enlightenment. Before enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions; after enlightenment, Chop Suey and

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
... - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: This reification of a concept of some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next comes the full integration, the living of the knowledge. In the case of Self realization, if it is being lived as an integrated component of one's life, it has huge practical benefits. Sounds like the person who

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim: If he is enlightened, then what nature wants and what he does are the same thing; indistinguishable. Me: As a spokesperson for the lower states of consciousness I also want to point out that Nature

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He can't openly have sex for fear it will destroy his popular image, he does not have the open recognition of his peers, his megalomaniacal disposition speaks volumns about his state of mind, and then he rants showing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And do you know everything there is to know about MMY? Maharishi is an enigma to me. After sitting at His feet for 40 years, of these many years litterrally, I still have only vague ideas about who He really is.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you think this of Maharishi, what say you about Shiva? I love Shiva. Alway have always will. If there is a power of the divine to manifest then it is of Shiva. Of course if there is a power of the divine to

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't think anyone in the Movement has the balls to question MMY. But if they did he probably would say straight up that he is not liberated. He is still in duality. snip I do admire him. He might be much much more

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you think or feel Maharishi is not Shiva incarnate? ---Moreover Shiva ia an ascetic, or naked awareness deva, and has no considerations of relative things. One can nap in shit, or live in a castle, it is all the

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 14, 2006, at 5:49 PM, Kirk wrote: a sign of guilt? or dualism of his mind? One would think that since he puts his photo on all his manifest actions he would place it in the Holy Tradition which is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coshlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: However, there could be a good deal of semantic ambiguity here, in light

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a frequent mistake people make, *assuming* that Maharishi [or another guru] is enlightened (I think psychologists refer to this phenomenon as transference), and then based on that assumption,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coshlnx coshlnx@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So many people here considering themselves freethinking TMers who have gotten away from the cultish mentality, and yet, like a grain of sand in an oyster, people have made a pearl out of the utter mythical nonsense that MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So many people here considering themselves freethinking TMers who have gotten away from the cultish mentality, and yet, like a grain of sand in an oyster, people have made a pearl out of the utter mythical nonsense that MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And also regarding getting escorted out, were those that this happened to respectful? Just curious, because we'd be treated similarly in any company meeting if openly challenging a CEO disrespecfully- not making

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I've always interpretted no mistake as meaning that a mistake is something that detracts from one's evolution towards higher states of consciousness. I'll bet you a zillion dollars you can't come up with an

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY=Shiva...You didn't know that? Who else could he be? Sudra Mahesh Varma I vote for Bob's Big Boy! checkered overalls and everything. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo!

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know 'Lifton' or what that refers to. My take on why people ascribe stuff to their teachers is they want to personalize their own inner transformation, and the teacher is a convenient...target? lol.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flippancy isn't neccesarily a sense of humour. It's more a state of egoic conceit. OK- but I was being seriously absurd- there's a place for that I thought... - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK- but I was being seriously absurd- there's a place for that I thought... ---Oh, yes, that's okay then. Just to clarify, Peter had asked who else Maharishi could be? I thought that the way he asked the question

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: OK- but I was being seriously absurd- there's a place for that I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Super Discounts on Invincibility Courses

2006-06-16 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: I expect to go through hell. Well then you have to bring along my favorite Far Side cartoon. It's set in hell. Flames, tortured souls, the whole

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-18 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A great example of this was when he came here, sometime in the late 70s I think, he apparently made the offhand remark that someone's sari was really nice, or something to that effect. Next time he came--most of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-18 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/15/06 10:58 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: This is a frequent

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-18 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great points. Thanks for taking the time. I will take a little time to make sure I let them sink in. I can't resist this one to start: The irony is that if what you're calling the group 'I' is in fact

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-18 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great points. Thanks for taking the time. I will take a little time to make sure I let them sink in. I can't resist this one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, you only think you have it!

2006-06-19 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Be Free will only cost you every concept and belief you hold to be true. Will. It will happen just wait. Tom T The great surrender, death and rebirth, the holy insurrection, dwarfing the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Backward causation through time.: MMY and Hawking.

2006-06-19 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: - Unlike the MMY/Hagelin/Chopra Unified Field hypothesis which any reputable physicist with half a brain would find laughable;

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin

2006-06-20 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: Today's the day! Many happy returns. Or not, if we're talking reincarnation and you'd rather not... :-) Thanks!! I AM enjoying my birthday in one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin

2006-06-20 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today¹s the day! Thank You, Rik Archer! Oooops did I misspell that again?! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, you only think you have it!

2006-06-20 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: To Be Free will only cost you every concept and belief you hold to be true. Will. It will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin

2006-06-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy Birthday, Jim! Thanks!! I now enjoy the triple celebratiom of my day, father's day, and the first day of summer/longest day of the year!! --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-26 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because we should realize and make the connection that *dualistic methods lead to dualistic states of consciousness* (e.g. the witnessing artifact, which is an artifact of a dualistic meditation method). You are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-26 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's just not much I can say to orthodox dualists (TMer's). Your association of the term 'dualist' and 'TM' belies an incomplete understanding of the practice of TM. Please see my earlier post.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-26 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:58 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Because we should realize and make the connection that *dualistic methods lead to dualistic states

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Because we should realize and make the connection that *dualistic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kabbalist1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Because we should realize and make the connection that *dualistic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves: source of Vaj;'s inspired statements

2006-06-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---To JIM and other Fairfield Lifers (funny - when I was in the Army in 1968 the term Lifer was the most derogatory name one could think of). At any rate, in answer to your question, Jim, as to where Vaj got such

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves: source of Vaj;'s inspired statements

2006-06-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: [snip] Also, yesterday I was stopped at a stoplight on the way home from work, next to a non-descript pickup truck. There was something

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: There's just not much I can say to orthodox dualists (TMer's). Your association of the term

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the ongoing battle at wikipedia certain editors have taken to the practice of referring to MMY as simply Mahesh. Aside the fact that the only name MMY has been known by for the last fifty or so years is MMY, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: In the ongoing battle at wikipedia certain editors have taken

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: In the ongoing battle at wikipedia certain editors have taken to the practice of referring to MMY as simply Mahesh. Aside the fact

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Vaj wrote: IIRC there is also an interview with one of the Shankaracharya's where they state that it is an assumed name and that he was not a yogi either. Q: Mahesh Yogi claims

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: In internet speak

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: In internet speak, what exactly is an Avatar I know what it is spiritually speaking, but what has the word been usurped for in silly

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Ken stops his brainwaves] Spiritual Orthodoxy

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 28, 2006, at 10:35 AM, new.morning wrote: Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Absolutely not. Again, restful alertness is consciousness projected into and identified with a condition of mind. All mental conditions

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like MMY likes all the benefits of having disciples, but he accepts none of the reponsibility of having disciples. sounds like saying a tree likes all the benefits of having leaves, but accepts none of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 28, 2006, at 12:37 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 28, 2006, at 10:35 AM, new.morning wrote: Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Absolutely

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipHe later warns you will never attain CC/jivan- mukti if you practice samyama: In this way he (the samyama yogi) falls away from the attainment of the goal of life (CC). Then he repeats Patanjali for a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: ... Jim, on a personal note, nothing to do with points of discussion, etc, where and when did you take your siddhis course? You are in South Bay

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
You wrote regarding sidhis, --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip for the relative, they are perfections. what *isn't* perfection? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Seems like MMY likes all the benefits of having disciples, but he accepts

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: In internet speak

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic knowledge will be complete in the awareness of everyone

2006-06-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Vaj wrote: The word galactic is better because of the word galaxy and it's derivation from of the Greek word for milk which also has allusions to the Vedic analogy of grass - milk - butter - ghee

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 6/28/06 5:26 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I caught Mahesh in a highly compromising activity early in my TM stint. I simply could

[FairfieldLife] Re: Superman Returns

2006-06-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/29/06 11:48:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- MDixon6569 wrote: Has anybody see Superman Returns yet? I saw it yesterday and found it to be very uplifting and

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Guru Dev's support of Maharishi

2006-06-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 6/29/06 8:19 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You got nothing. You are just looking for attention, but will find something to make up that is

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Guru Dev's support of Maharishi

2006-06-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 30, 2006, at 10:34 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 6/29/06 8:19 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 6/29/06 8:19 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You got nothing. You are

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Guru Dev's support of Maharishi

2006-06-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 30, 2006, at 11:16 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: It *would* make a great sequel-- But it doesn't address my question...I wasn't speaking about Maharishi's material wealth, more Guru Dev's support of Maharishi's

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Weasel shite

2006-06-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 6/29/06 8:19 PM,

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Weasel shite

2006-06-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: I find your stuff engaging. OK, so let's assume you have convinced everyone on this board that Mahesh is a bag of weasel shite. We all agree

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Weasel shite

2006-06-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: I find your stuff engaging. OK, so let's assume you have convinced everyone on this board that Mahesh is a bag of weasel shite. We all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Was this before or after he started eating babies? ;-) How do you think

[FairfieldLife] Re: The 70's -Now and Then...

2006-07-01 Thread jim_flanegin
I must weigh in on the side of Now being better...because it is Now. Also the fact that Barry can ask 1000+ people this question simultaneously without thinking twice about it, is a huge transformation from the Big Three TV channels, a local newspaper and wired phone service we had in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Ken Hassman

2006-07-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hooray for Ken! Happy Birthday KH! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-07-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I didn�t buy into the Sexy Sadie rumors until 4 or 5 years ago. To date, I have spoken with two of the women. I never really knew the first, but I found

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gore wrong on consensus says MIT prof

2006-07-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/2/06 6:36:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How much stock does he own in oil companies? Better yet, how much does Gore own? Cheney owns 600,000+ stock options

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-07-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 2, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Rick Archer wrote: At the start of my 6-month course, Maharishi said, I have 6 months to turn you into yogis. He had us doing lots of asanas, taking cold baths, fasting, sitting in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yahoo Wierdness / Virus

2006-07-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 no_reply@ wrote: I've been having nothing but trouble with Yahoo, It is getting worse and worse. I'm having no problems at all with Yahoo. Not with the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paranoia as cult bonding mechanism

2006-07-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 9, 2006, at 8:49 PM, new.morning wrote: He applauds TM for what does well, such as provide liberation (CC). And he, perhaps cautiously, admits it can provide the non-dual state. That sounds positive to me.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi said.....

2006-07-11 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H kennyhassman@ wrote: -I'm sorry for posting the ramblings of my mind from one point earlier in the day. By the time I deleted it Judy had already posted a reply and

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