May all the angels watch after Dukee and
your family tomorrow/today.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with their fellow
man.
St. Francis
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I don't feel like you are picking on me at all. All of my critters
have chosen me (except for Kitty who chose my mother and father and had to
live with me eventually) and I totally agree--decisions made from love can't
be wrong. All we can do is what we truly believe is right. I've gone thru
I'm glad to know this. I hope I never have to make the decision but
it is very good to have the information from people who have been there.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise
Thanks Diane for explaining things to me about fatty liver and feeding
tubes. My Crackers 20 plus lbs...right now knock on wood is doing very very good
but if anything like this fatty liver happens to him and he has a hard time
eating the tube sounds like a terrific idea. My son was on a NG
belinda: thanks I woke up and was so dry when I blew my nose I got a nose
bleed so now its 5:11 am and I cant sleep! Elizabeth dont get the flu shot if
you are allergic to eggsI keep washing my hands and everything...as a mom
I'll take the flu as a deal LOL that my son AJ and my "other
I love that peom.It touches something in all who has lost a loved one. Sheila
Hi Terrie,
I've just been reading the updates. I'm so thrilled to hear that Dukee
is still with you. From what you were posting the other night it
seemed like he had only moments left with you. Now you have the chance
to nudge a miracle along. We all support whatever decisions that you,
your
It's a great poem. Thanks,
Michelle
Hi, all. Lucy has been doing well getting over her URI-- no fever, no
stuffy nose, just a little tiny bit of clear discharge from her nose every now
and then. But here is the problem-- she now has frequent liquid diarrhea,
threw up this morning, and is not interested in eating more than a
Oh man, that Lucy keeps you guessing! I don't know Michelle... I'm
pretty sure I've had vets prescribe a 5 day dose of abx before, usually
it is 7 to 10 days. I think Hideyo told me she gives them just long
enough for symptoms to subside, (definitely not recommended by the
veterinary
Thanks, Nina. The vet just called back and said to stop the clavamox and
see, so I guess I will do that. She's had 4.5 days of it now. Her coat
does not look oily, but it does look funny-- a little sticky-outy. It could be
because of the winter dryness setting in here, I guess. I have not
I'm glad you've got confirmation from the vet about what you should do.
Thanks for the visual of her poking her paw through the bottom of the
door. That made me feel much better. I sure do love that little
troublesome sprite of yours!
Nina
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Thanks, Nina. The vet
In the past I had seen this in my other kitties that were
getting ready to leave. But Dukee continues to fight this
battle.
In a message dated 10/28/2006 8:09:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Terrie,I've just been reading the
updates. I'm so thrilled to
At 08:21 AM 10/28/2006, you wrote:
I have learned to keep them on the entire time or risk getting the bugs
back that are most resistant, Is she having diarrhea/??there are some
good meds out there for diarrhea and I know I have used a bit of
Kaopectate or Lomotil also...some rice with her diet
Dukee is at the clinic as we speak.
Believe me I rushed him A.S.A.P. when I got the call
back.
Please pray for him and send him positive
energy!
"I had one of the Techs tell me also that he may not make it.
That I needed to think quality verses quantity on him that I should put the
money
I feel the same way you do about doing everything in our power to aid a
kitty that is so obviously fighting to stay. Whatever happens, you can
at least know that you did this for Dukee. Where there is life there
is hope! Praying with all that's in me for miracles,
Nina
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The tech had no business discussing where your
money goes. And, unless you asked, no business with qualityvs
quantity. You are doing what you think is best for Dukee and he loves you
for that. There is no reason to try to keep from crying. It is an
honest _expression_ of love and concern.
I think why she said this because I had you guys and my family
trying to help Dukee. I told her that he deserves a chance...and why not
try!
She told me that she does dog rescue she mentioned she would
help 4 dogs verses the one dog.
Think she knew I wasn't going to listen to her thoughts
Don't you hate when they do that??? Like we all don't
know how much things cost, and decisions have to be
made. I wish they'd give us some credit for brains.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you both.
May God bless you and Dukee,
Dede
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Dukee is at the clinic as
Hi Terrie,
I am so sorry for all that you and Dukee are going through. I searched "vaccine" in the archives of theyahoo FIP list, below are someexcerpts that may help youin your decision on vaccinating the others.It has been a little while ago for us, socan't recall all of our reasoning on it at
If someone has a sick child who needs very expensive medical care, would
anyone tell them that the same amount of money could save 30 children dying of
malaria in another country (which is probably true)? By her reasoning, no
one should ever get expensive medical care for themselves, their
If she voices an unwanted opinion again ask
her how she would feel if she was the one dog. I do understand money but
there have been times with my own vets' techs that I wanted silence or support
whether they agreed or not. Even my vets offer opinions when they know I
want them.
I hope
That is very well said!
Thank you I will certainly tell her my thoughts and to keep her
opinions to herself if she says anything to me.
In a message dated 10/28/2006 11:58:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If someone has a sick child who needs very expensive
I'm sure she meant well...but it really wasn't appropriate for her to
comment on the matter.
elizabeth
In a message dated 10/28/2006 1:37:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think why she said this because I had you guys and my
family trying to help
In a message dated 10/28/2006 12:03:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I hope things are going well. Will
you be able to check on Dukee this
weekend?
Will update A.S.A.P. on how he is doing.
Yes, I will be able to.
Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL
The worse part is the wait. :(
My husband is praying for Dukee...he keeps asking me if the Vet
has called.
Because I have the phones at the other end of the house with me
here in the computer room.
Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE
COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted
Terrie NO FIP vaccinations
it could trigger the illness you are trying to prevent so please
dont do it I have said this before, but I will say this again
you NEED to give him interferon every other day if you havent
please do so right away this is the only thing which
Don't worry I'm not giving anyone the FIP vaccination that also
means Dukee.
Dukee is being treated as well with Interferon by the Vet.
I signed the paper for them to give him this and other vital
meds to further his treatment.
In a message dated 10/28/2006 1:28:34 P.M. Pacific Standard
Good is he on IV? Ask them to put him
on heating pad whiels he is there their temperature often goes down (him
being anemia and being on anesthesia makes temp go down even further) when my
cats are at the emergency, I brought my own thermometer to check on temp of my
cats as they
That's why I ask for some output on this from you
guys.
My breeder friends do not use it. I side with them on
this.
Because of reactions to the vaccination.
In a message dated 10/28/2006 1:40:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Don't worry I'm not giving anyone the
Terriie, also please make sure that
interferon is being refridgerated..
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2:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: UPDATE:Dukee
10/28/06- terrie please
Are they giving him e-tube (much simpler and quicker process) on him or or are
they putting the tube from his stomach?
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Yes he is on an IV...is being kept warm.
Yes, Interferon is refrigerated.
Please don't worry Hideyo!
I'm a nervous wreck already...I have a headache and my eyes
hurt.
I'm online trying to occupy my time by playing some games but
I'm spacing out. Also sitting on the phones practically.
We
When I mean sitting on the phones.
My cell and the home line.
I'm using my daughter's phone line for online
purposes.
Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE
COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted
If you have or can get a Snuggle Safe you have it
made. It will stay warm 10-12 hours if it is covered with a towel--don't
let the cat lay on it uncovered.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will
Hi, my Dharma has some stinky discharge from her nose
it had sort of greenish and yellownish color could this be bacterial or
viral? I read somewhere that if its green, its viral and if its
yellow, its bacterial is it the case? Or its hard to tell
by the color? My vet closed for the
Okay all,
Dukee made through he is sitting up.
They will be feeding him through the tube in just a bit. They said he is alert
and looking around. He will remain on the IVs until Monday with meds flowing
through. They will call me if anything changes on him. As I will call to check
on him
Way to go Dukee! Thats our boy!!!
can you visit him today? I think that your visit will make a big different to
him
I know that IV fluid will definitely help
him flush out the yellow stuff (cant remember whats called) which
makes him jaudinced and make him feel better
Keep us
I will later on after they feed him.
Yes, he is on predisolone.
Okay, I'm getting offthe computera bit and take a
much needed rest for a bit since I know he made it through
surgery.
YAY!! YIPPEE! GO DUKEE!!!
In a message dated 10/28/2006 4:12:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL
All I know is that when I call my vet and tell him there is nasal discharge he asks the color. I have had one of my kittens more than 6 months but less han a year take baytril with no problems, but it didn't cure him either. How bad is it? If really bad I usually go straight to zithro. I don't
Yay! I am praying hard for Dukee.
Michelle
Yes, it's a URI if green or yellow. I would give her lysine (in case
it's viral) and Clavamox or amoxicillin. If that does not work you can try
something else, but it might work and they are milder than the other things you
can use. I have heard also not to give kittens Baytril. I think it
This is great news! Oh thank you for keeping us posted. We're
all going through this with you.
elizabeth
In a message dated 10/28/2006 6:03:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Okay all,
Dukee made through he is sitting up.
They will be feeding him through the
Hi Michelle, I am glad Lucy is much better..I am so far behind on reading and everyone.. I have a question...about Inky and IBD...I have had him on 10 mg pred for awhile then I went to 7.5mg for a few weeks then now we went to 5mg and he seems to be having stool problems again...one day it is
Terrie, I'm so glad Dukee is out of surgery and alert. Here
are huge vibes that he's already starting the healing process. Bravo,
Dukee!
And
brava to you, dear, for doing all this for him.
Diane R.
Hi Hideyo,
I would try the lysine for her first too. She's on so much right now,
Pred, feline Interferon, you just started Epogen, Moducare, was there
something else? Are you using TF? I hate to think of adding yet
another med, but if the lysine doesn't help, I might try some Clavamox.
Hi, Nina--- I am now thinking that her loss of appetite might have
something to do with URIs as it started a day or two days ago - it might
be some type of bacterial infections --since her immune system is a bit
compromised,k she is more susceptible to also bacterial infections -- I
just
Terri:
My several of my vets are against the FIP vaccine.
One big problem with the vaccine is that if a cat has
been exposed to FIP, the vaccine will bring it on!
Also, the vaccine is only 50% effective.
Even after living though a FIP out break and losing
many cats, I am strongly against the
Thanks for your interest and concern. I'm very happy to say that the IFA's
on Oreo AND Ellie were negative!!! Ellie's first IFA in June was
positive. The vet is flabbergasted that it came back negative. I don't
know how much stock I should put into the Mega C Plus that I ordered online
Poor little girl. I hope the penicillin helps her feel much better.
On 10/28/06, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Nina--- I am now thinking that her loss of appetite might havesomething to do with URIs as it started a day or two days ago - it might
be some type of bacterial infections
Thank you but Dharma is actually one
strong girl I noticed that when I was syringe feeding her that her nose
and gums look much more pink.. and I just have a feeling that she is going to feel
just GREAT tomorrow --J
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Actually if a cat is already exposed to corona virus (not even FIP) at
all --- it won't be effective at all -- and realistically, 75 to 95% of
cats are already exposed to corona virus to certain degree..
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