[Felvtalk] Immulin
Dear all, Does anyone have any experience in treating FeLV kitts with Immulin? My FelV foster's new forever mom just sent me the email extract below from her ex (who also adopts FeLV kitts). She is looking for any info on Immulin. I wonder if it's akin to Immuno Regulin, or even IR itself, re-packaged for cats (as opposed to dogs and horses)? I wonder about this guy being taken for a ride---even unintentionally--by his vet, as it sounds pricy. I've been trying to research on the web with no success. I've also been unable to dig up any more info on Immuno Regulin other than what I already read several years ago--mainly 2 articles by vets supporting use of IR by Dr Mike Lies, and Dr Karen Thomas, respectively. Immulin - appears to be a scientific breakthrough that I am excited about. Results have been incredible. Its a boost to the immune system that in many cases has helped them to beat their diseases. The only issue is cost. It is a very expensive and intensive program. I am also uncertain about the stress of making him go to the vet so often and taking the shots themselves. Doctor thinks pros outway cons by far, I am a little less convinced of that but still excited about the possibilities here. Any info on Immulin, or (more up to date) info on IR would be very welcome. Incidentally, one Google result showed an email from a guy that said Dr Karen Thomas' experiences were available on Jim's website. He may mean this website -- James's -- but I've never seen anything from a Dr Karen Thomas here?? Hugs to all and good health wishes to all your kitts, Kerry M. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin
Hi Kerry I think that MC and Lance know something about it. If you go to the other Felv group, Sheila Smith's husband is a vet in Austin,Tx and he has been giving it to his Felv cats for quite a while. He was available to talk to vets who were interested in using it. She would be able to update you on the results he has had with it. My vet was turned off by Immulan's website. Apparently the company had been sold recently and the original clinical trials were discontinued and the current owners were not forthcoming with information. My vet was not interested in working with them, and I dropped it because MeMe was doing well with Interferon. I wish I had more information to share, but if you track down Sheila Smith, you should get some current information. Jane On Apr 22, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Kerry MacKenzie wrote: Dear all, Does anyone have any experience in treating FeLV kitts with Immulin? My FelV foster's new forever mom just sent me the email extract below from her ex (who also adopts FeLV kitts). She is looking for any info on Immulin. I wonder if it's akin to Immuno Regulin, or even IR itself, re-packaged for cats (as opposed to dogs and horses)? I wonder about this guy being taken for a ride---even unintentionally--by his vet, as it sounds pricy. I've been trying to research on the web with no success. I've also been unable to dig up any more info on Immuno Regulin other than what I already read several years ago--mainly 2 articles by vets supporting use of IR by Dr Mike Lies, and Dr Karen Thomas, respectively. Immulin - appears to be a scientific breakthrough that I am excited about. Results have been incredible. Its a boost to the immune system that in many cases has helped them to beat their diseases. The only issue is cost. It is a very expensive and intensive program. I am also uncertain about the stress of making him go to the vet so often and taking the shots themselves. Doctor thinks pros outway cons by far, I am a little less convinced of that but still excited about the possibilities here. Any info on Immulin, or (more up to date) info on IR would be very welcome. Incidentally, one Google result showed an email from a guy that said Dr Karen Thomas' experiences were available on Jim's website. He may mean this website -- James's -- but I've never seen anything from a Dr Karen Thomas here?? Hugs to all and good health wishes to all your kitts, Kerry M. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin
I believe you are talking about a product called LTCI that is made by a company called Imulan their website is http://imulan.com The product is not related to IR. Some people have had very good success with LTCI and some have not. I don't believe there is any information about its effectiveness when used on asymptomatic cats and I would find it far too expensive to use as a simple immune booster. Assuming I had the money, I might give it a try for a symptomatic cat where you can tell if there is an improvement. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Immulin Dear all, Does anyone have any experience in treating FeLV kitts with Immulin? My FelV foster's new forever mom just sent me the email extract below from her ex (who also adopts FeLV kitts). She is looking for any info on Immulin. I wonder if it's akin to Immuno Regulin, or even IR itself, re-packaged for cats (as opposed to dogs and horses)? I wonder about this guy being taken for a ride---even unintentionally--by his vet, as it sounds pricy. I've been trying to research on the web with no success. I've also been unable to dig up any more info on Immuno Regulin other than what I already read several years ago--mainly 2 articles by vets supporting use of IR by Dr Mike Lies, and Dr Karen Thomas, respectively. Immulin - appears to be a scientific breakthrough that I am excited about. Results have been incredible. Its a boost to the immune system that in many cases has helped them to beat their diseases. The only issue is cost. It is a very expensive and intensive program. I am also uncertain about the stress of making him go to the vet so often and taking the shots themselves. Doctor thinks pros outway cons by far, I am a little less convinced of that but still excited about the possibilities here. Any info on Immulin, or (more up to date) info on IR would be very welcome. Incidentally, one Google result showed an email from a guy that said Dr Karen Thomas' experiences were available on Jim's website. He may mean this website -- James's -- but I've never seen anything from a Dr Karen Thomas here?? Hugs to all and good health wishes to all your kitts, Kerry M. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin
Thanks v much Jane--do you happen to know the name of the other group? I'm not familiar with it. Kerry On 22/04/2009, at 4:44 PM, Jane Lyons wrote: Hi Kerry I think that MC and Lance know something about it. If you go to the other Felv group, Sheila Smith's husband is a vet in Austin,Tx and he has been giving it to his Felv cats for quite a while. He was available to talk to vets who were interested in using it. She would be able to update you on the results he has had with it. My vet was turned off by Immulan's website. Apparently the company had been sold recently and the original clinical trials were discontinued and the current owners were not forthcoming with information. My vet was not interested in working with them, and I dropped it because MeMe was doing well with Interferon. I wish I had more information to share, but if you track down Sheila Smith, you should get some current information. Jane On Apr 22, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Kerry MacKenzie wrote: Dear all, Does anyone have any experience in treating FeLV kitts with Immulin? My FelV foster's new forever mom just sent me the email extract below from her ex (who also adopts FeLV kitts). She is looking for any info on Immulin. I wonder if it's akin to Immuno Regulin, or even IR itself, re-packaged for cats (as opposed to dogs and horses)? I wonder about this guy being taken for a ride---even unintentionally--by his vet, as it sounds pricy. I've been trying to research on the web with no success. I've also been unable to dig up any more info on Immuno Regulin other than what I already read several years ago--mainly 2 articles by vets supporting use of IR by Dr Mike Lies, and Dr Karen Thomas, respectively. Immulin - appears to be a scientific breakthrough that I am excited about. Results have been incredible. Its a boost to the immune system that in many cases has helped them to beat their diseases. The only issue is cost. It is a very expensive and intensive program. I am also uncertain about the stress of making him go to the vet so often and taking the shots themselves. Doctor thinks pros outway cons by far, I am a little less convinced of that but still excited about the possibilities here. Any info on Immulin, or (more up to date) info on IR would be very welcome. Incidentally, one Google result showed an email from a guy that said Dr Karen Thomas' experiences were available on Jim's website. He may mean this website -- James's -- but I've never seen anything from a Dr Karen Thomas here?? Hugs to all and good health wishes to all your kitts, Kerry M. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin
Thanks v much Gary. Have fwded on your info. Kerry On 22/04/2009, at 4:55 PM, gary wrote: I believe you are talking about a product called LTCI that is made by a company called Imulan their website is http://imulan.com The product is not related to IR. Some people have had very good success with LTCI and some have not. I don't believe there is any information about its effectiveness when used on asymptomatic cats and I would find it far too expensive to use as a simple immune booster. Assuming I had the money, I might give it a try for a symptomatic cat where you can tell if there is an improvement. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Immulin Dear all, Does anyone have any experience in treating FeLV kitts with Immulin? My FelV foster's new forever mom just sent me the email extract below from her ex (who also adopts FeLV kitts). She is looking for any info on Immulin. I wonder if it's akin to Immuno Regulin, or even IR itself, re-packaged for cats (as opposed to dogs and horses)? I wonder about this guy being taken for a ride---even unintentionally--by his vet, as it sounds pricy. I've been trying to research on the web with no success. I've also been unable to dig up any more info on Immuno Regulin other than what I already read several years ago--mainly 2 articles by vets supporting use of IR by Dr Mike Lies, and Dr Karen Thomas, respectively. Immulin - appears to be a scientific breakthrough that I am excited about. Results have been incredible. Its a boost to the immune system that in many cases has helped them to beat their diseases. The only issue is cost. It is a very expensive and intensive program. I am also uncertain about the stress of making him go to the vet so often and taking the shots themselves. Doctor thinks pros outway cons by far, I am a little less convinced of that but still excited about the possibilities here. Any info on Immulin, or (more up to date) info on IR would be very welcome. Incidentally, one Google result showed an email from a guy that said Dr Karen Thomas' experiences were available on Jim's website. He may mean this website -- James's -- but I've never seen anything from a Dr Karen Thomas here?? Hugs to all and good health wishes to all your kitts, Kerry M. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin
I brought my cat (Puma) to a new vet for his bladder infection in Jan 2009. I was then told that 1. Puma is FeLV+ 2. Puma has severe anemia 3. Puma's kidney/Liver are failing (The vet said that based on Puma's blood test results) I put Puma on the LTCI treatment, and he finished 6th shots so far. The vet did another blood test 2weeks after his 6th shots, and the vet told me that 1. Puma is FeLV- this time (it's ELISA, so we will test him again) 2. Puma doesn't have anemia any more 3. All the values for the blood test came back as normal I don't quite believe that this treatment cures FeLV...my stance is that if it works, great! if not, it's OK. But I'm very happy that it helped Puma's anemia - he is not suffering from it any more! I'm planning on 3 more monthly shots for Puma as maintenance/follow-up (?). Hope this helps. Hiromi From: gcru...@centurytel.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:55:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin I believe you are talking about a product called LTCI that is made by a company called Imulan their website is http://imulan.com The product is not related to IR. Some people have had very good success with LTCI and some have not. I don't believe there is any information about its effectiveness when used on asymptomatic cats and I would find it far too expensive to use as a simple immune booster. Assuming I had the money, I might give it a try for a symptomatic cat where you can tell if there is an improvement. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Immulin Dear all, Does anyone have any experience in treating FeLV kitts with Immulin? My FelV foster's new forever mom just sent me the email extract below from her ex (who also adopts FeLV kitts). She is looking for any info on Immulin. I wonder if it's akin to Immuno Regulin, or even IR itself, re-packaged for cats (as opposed to dogs and horses)? I wonder about this guy being taken for a ride---even unintentionally--by his vet, as it sounds pricy. I've been trying to research on the web with no success. I've also been unable to dig up any more info on Immuno Regulin other than what I already read several years ago--mainly 2 articles by vets supporting use of IR by Dr Mike Lies, and Dr Karen Thomas, respectively. Immulin - appears to be a scientific breakthrough that I am excited about. Results have been incredible. Its a boost to the immune system that in many cases has helped them to beat their diseases. The only issue is cost. It is a very expensive and intensive program. I am also uncertain about the stress of making him go to the vet so often and taking the shots themselves. Doctor thinks pros outway cons by far, I am a little less convinced of that but still excited about the possibilities here. Any info on Immulin, or (more up to date) info on IR would be very welcome. Incidentally, one Google result showed an email from a guy that said Dr Karen Thomas' experiences were available on Jim's website. He may mean this website -- James's -- but I've never seen anything from a Dr Karen Thomas here?? Hugs to all and good health wishes to all your kitts, Kerry M. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Petey
Kerry, My internet has been down. I'm so sorry to read about Petey. tonya --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Kerry MacKenzie kerrymacken...@ymail.com wrote: From: Kerry MacKenzie kerrymacken...@ymail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 5:44 PM You're so right. Thanks Lorrie. From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:17:48 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey I'm so sorry about Petey. These losses are so hard on us, and it never gets any easier no matter how many times we go thru it. Lorrie On 04-16, Kerry MacKenzie wrote: I just got the very sad news that Petey was put to sleep this morning. I want to thank everyone for their feedback and support yesterday. Petey's mom is also the new mom of my former foster FeLV Daisy. I'll be (gently) encouraging her to join the list. I didn't know Petey was even ill until yesterday, and I think she and Petey would have benefited enormously from being part of this wonderful group. Good wishes as always to all of you and your furbabes. Kerry M. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin
Thanks Hiromiand I'm so glad to hear Puma is doing so well! Long may Puma have good health. I'll fwd your email to Lea. Kerry On 22/04/2009, at 6:03 PM, Hiromi Page wrote: I brought my cat (Puma) to a new vet for his bladder infection in Jan 2009. I was then told that 1. Puma is FeLV+ 2. Puma has severe anemia 3. Puma's kidney/Liver are failing (The vet said that based on Puma's blood test results) I put Puma on the LTCI treatment, and he finished 6th shots so far. The vet did another blood test 2weeks after his 6th shots, and the vet told me that 1. Puma is FeLV- this time (it's ELISA, so we will test him again) 2. Puma doesn't have anemia any more 3. All the values for the blood test came back as normal I don't quite believe that this treatment cures FeLV...my stance is that if it works, great! if not, it's OK. But I'm very happy that it helped Puma's anemia - he is not suffering from it any more! I'm planning on 3 more monthly shots for Puma as maintenance/follow- up (?). Hope this helps. Hiromi ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Petey
Thank you Tonya. I'll be passing on your condolences to Lea too. Hope you and yours are well, Kerry On 22/04/2009, at 6:21 PM, catatonya wrote: Kerry, My internet has been down. I'm so sorry to read about Petey. tonya --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Kerry MacKenzie kerrymacken...@ymail.com wrote: From: Kerry MacKenzie kerrymacken...@ymail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 5:44 PM You're so right. Thanks Lorrie. From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:17:48 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey I'm so sorry about Petey. These losses are so hard on us, and it never gets any easier no matter how many times we go thru it. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Important - please read, be aware and pass it on!
*Here we go again:* The Food and Drug Administration is looking into a series of pet deaths and illnesses, possibly connected with Nutro Foods. Nutro Foods makes both dog and cat foods sold under brand names Nutro Max, Nutro Natural Choice and Nutro Max Cat. The company has set up a hot line for consumers to call with their concerns -- 800-833-5330. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30331337/ I'm getting really leery of the good foods!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Important - please read, be aware and pass it on!
I think probably the best option is to feed homemade raw, that way you know exactly what is in it. Unfortunately our rescue cannot afford it. There is premixed raw out there, but it seems to me it would be subject to the same issues as premixed commercial food of any kind. I have heard people express concern over feeding raw to immune compromised cats also. On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.comwrote: *Here we go again:* The Food and Drug Administration is looking into a series of pet deaths and illnesses, possibly connected with Nutro Foods. Nutro Foods makes both dog and cat foods sold under brand names Nutro Max, Nutro Natural Choice and Nutro Max Cat. The company has set up a hot line for consumers to call with their concerns -- 800-833-5330. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30331337/ I'm getting really leery of the good foods!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/30-spays-in-30-days Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Important - please read, be aware and pass it on!
I know there is concern but Dixie thrived on Primal Raw mixed with finely chopped veggies..before the concerns appeared. Frankly, even with the concerns, I would feed her a raw diet if she was with me now. My beautiful little lady On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: I think probably the best option is to feed homemade raw, that way you know exactly what is in it. Unfortunately our rescue cannot afford it. There is premixed raw out there, but it seems to me it would be subject to the same issues as premixed commercial food of any kind. I have heard people express concern over feeding raw to immune compromised cats also. On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.comwrote: *Here we go again:* The Food and Drug Administration is looking into a series of pet deaths and illnesses, possibly connected with Nutro Foods. Nutro Foods makes both dog and cat foods sold under brand names Nutro Max, Nutro Natural Choice and Nutro Max Cat. The company has set up a hot line for consumers to call with their concerns -- 800-833-5330. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30331337/ I'm getting really leery of the good foods!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/30-spays-in-30-days Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Important - please read, be aware and pass it on!
Feline Pride is a new raw food that is almost the exact homemade recipe as that at www.catnutrition.org It has been given the stamp of approval by Dr. Lisa Pierson of www.catinfo.org and also by the webmaster of the catnutrition website. Pierson has a lot of valuable info on her website about feline diseases. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Important - please read, be aware and pass it on! I know there is concern but Dixie thrived on Primal Raw mixed with finely chopped veggies..before the concerns appeared. Frankly, even with the concerns, I would feed her a raw diet if she was with me now. My beautiful little lady On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Important - please read, be aware and pass it on!
I used to cook for Fred, I would cook chicken legs and thighs, mostly thighs you get more meat for you money. Just cook, debone, blend it in the blender to the consistency your cats like, mine like it very blended, creamy like. I add an egg or two depending on how much I am making and I add oatmeal or rice, usually oatmeal. Then after I debone and blend the cooked oatmeal and egg together with the chicken, I add the supplements. Taurine, bonemeal, a mutivitamin, a little calcium, salmon oil and the supplements Fred needs for his CRF and mix it really well to get it all mixed in. Forgot I use the chicken broth to blend to the consistency I want. Then I ladle into freezer safe quart size canning jars and freeze them to use as needed. Fred did well on it and put on all the weight he lost because of his CRF and some. He got bored with it after several months though and now eats baby food with added supplements. His weight is good and he is doing well on that. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
