Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary
WOW, I sit here and read all this about all these NEW places to take FeLV cats and get very scared... $7500??? for the life and i feel bad asking $500 for the lifetime and all we take are FeLV's.. who are these people and where do they get off asking that much??? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:17:42 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary Hmmm. Only 10 cats listed for adoption on their petfinder site. And only one of those, an FIV+ boy, is listed as special needs. This also makes me suspicious about the long term viability of the place. You have to be committed to finding homes for the cats. They need human families, attention, and they won't get that in a giant sanctuary setting. And if you're not focused on adoptions, you have to strictly limit your intake to avoid becoming overwhelmed. - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:12:14 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary Never heard of them. According to their website they've only been around since 2005. Lots-of-cats in a rural setting always makes me nervous. And, whoa! They want a $5000 surrender fee for a healthy cat and $7500 to take in an FIV or FeLV cat. I guess that's one way to make sure you don't wind up with too many animals. - Original Message From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:02:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary http://www.loveandhopeforanimals.org/ has anyone ever heard of these folks before? i find it really scary how many sanctuaries keep appearing, with no history in the FIV/FeLV community. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary
My thoughts exactly. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:34:14 -0700 From: secondchanceme...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary WOW, I sit here and read all this about all these NEW places to take FeLV cats and get very scared... $7500??? for the life and i feel bad asking $500 for the lifetime and all we take are FeLV's.. who are these people and where do they get off asking that much??? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:17:42 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary Hmmm. Only 10 cats listed for adoption on their petfinder site. And only one of those, an FIV+ boy, is listed as special needs. This also makes me suspicious about the long term viability of the place. You have to be committed to finding homes for the cats. They need human families, attention, and they won't get that in a giant sanctuary setting. And if you're not focused on adoptions, you have to strictly limit your intake to avoid becoming overwhelmed. - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:12:14 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary Never heard of them. According to their website they've only been around since 2005. Lots-of-cats in a rural setting always makes me nervous. And, whoa! They want a $5000 surrender fee for a healthy cat and $7500 to take in an FIV or FeLV cat. I guess that's one way to make sure you don't wind up with too many animals. - Original Message From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:02:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary http://www.loveandhopeforanimals.org/ has anyone ever heard of these folks before? i find it really scary how many sanctuaries keep appearing, with no history in the FIV/FeLV community. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Share your memories online with anyone you want. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photos-share.aspx?tab=1 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator
Amy, The shot cost me $60. It is somewhat expensive and still pretty new to the field. I think if you can get them started early on before the bone marrow suppression starts you have a better chance at controlling the virus. I don't know all the details. I am planning on calling them today to ask a few more questions. I will keep you updated. Good luck with your decision. Jenny On 8/24/09, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: Jenny, Do you mind me asking the price of a shot? I'm thinking of trying this for my cats but I think I heard $90 a shot somewhere and I'm thinking that means $360 the first month, $200 the second month, and $90 a month after that. I have several cats and am trying to figure out if it's practical for me to start it. Thanks Amy --- On Mon, 8/24/09, jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: From: jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net Subject: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 5:19 PM Hello everyone, I really hope this email works. I have been a part of this community for awhile but don't often respond. I did, however, want to share this with you. I have had two cats die from severe anemia and bone marrow suppression associated from felv+. It is a common cause of death for these guys and I have heard over and again in this forum. I currently have another sweet little girl who is about 1 1/2 years old. She was doing well until recently when she started to become lethargic, stopped eating and was found to have a hematocrit of 11%. This is really, really, really low. It is a non-regenerative anemia, with signs of lymphoma. This is pretty much a death sentence for these guys. A blood transfusion would only prolong the sufferng So here's the deal. I found a vet that had the immunomodulator (from Imulan), got the shot and gave it to her on Friday. Her energy is gradually improving, her mucous membrane are pinking up and there are signs of improvement. I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I have to tell you that this is currently the best option out there for treating this disease. I found some of the information on it. There is rapid and profound improvement of anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and in some cases, return to normal with negative testing for the virus. I know there isn't a full proof cure out there but I have to say this may prove to be very helpful. The long terms studies are still pending. So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone marrow suppression (including anemia - low red blood cells, thrombocytopenia - low platelets, neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or lymphopenia - low lymphocyte count) and may or may not have the associated infections; I highly recommend giving this a try. It is a simple subcutaneous shot given weekly at first and than monthly with improvement of bone marrow suppression and clinical symptoms. It requires a vet order to get it. It is a far better alternative than the repeat cycle of blood transfusions, antibiotic regimens and prednisone. I will let you know how she does. Good luck everyone and God bless you for your generous and selfless hearts. Jenny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator
Jenny, I'm very much interested in this procedure also as I have a one year old Siamese mix female diagnosed with the same disease 2 1/2 weeks ago. Please include me in your postings and findings. Thanks! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator Amy, The shot cost me $60. It is somewhat expensive and still pretty new to the field. I think if you can get them started early on before the bone marrow suppression starts you have a better chance at controlling the virus. I don't know all the details. I am planning on calling them today to ask a few more questions. I will keep you updated. Good luck with your decision. Jenny On 8/24/09, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: Jenny, Do you mind me asking the price of a shot? I'm thinking of trying this for my cats but I think I heard $90 a shot somewhere and I'm thinking that means $360 the first month, $200 the second month, and $90 a month after that. I have several cats and am trying to figure out if it's practical for me to start it. Thanks Amy --- On Mon, 8/24/09, jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: From: jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net Subject: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 5:19 PM Hello everyone, I really hope this email works. I have been a part of this community for awhile but don't often respond. I did, however, want to share this with you. I have had two cats die from severe anemia and bone marrow suppression associated from felv+. It is a common cause of death for these guys and I have heard over and again in this forum. I currently have another sweet little girl who is about 1 1/2 years old. She was doing well until recently when she started to become lethargic, stopped eating and was found to have a hematocrit of 11%. This is really, really, really low. It is a non-regenerative anemia, with signs of lymphoma. This is pretty much a death sentence for these guys. A blood transfusion would only prolong the sufferng So here's the deal. I found a vet that had the immunomodulator (from Imulan), got the shot and gave it to her on Friday. Her energy is gradually improving, her mucous membrane are pinking up and there are signs of improvement. I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I have to tell you that this is currently the best option out there for treating this disease. I found some of the information on it. There is rapid and profound improvement of anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and in some cases, return to normal with negative testing for the virus. I know there isn't a full proof cure out there but I have to say this may prove to be very helpful. The long terms studies are still pending. So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone marrow suppression (including anemia - low red blood cells, thrombocytopenia - low platelets, neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or lymphopenia - low lymphocyte count) and may or may not have the associated infections; I highly recommend giving this a try. It is a simple subcutaneous shot given weekly at first and than monthly with improvement of bone marrow suppression and clinical symptoms. It requires a vet order to get it. It is a far better alternative than the repeat cycle of blood transfusions, antibiotic regimens and prednisone. I will let you know how she does. Good luck everyone and God bless you for your generous and selfless hearts. Jenny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
Just wanted to update everyone. Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada. Just got a voicemail from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you would think he had always lived there. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
yay!!! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:57:32 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Just wanted to update everyone. Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada. Just got a voicemail from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you would think he had always lived there. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
What wonderful news! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:57:32 -0700 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Just wanted to update everyone. Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada. Just got a voicemail from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you would think he had always lived there. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-edit.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator
I have shared this information here before. However, our cat, Gray Kitty, was diagnosed with FeLV on September 6, 2008. At that time he has a hematocrit of 9%..very near death. We have used LTCI since his second blood transfusion, which has been many, many, months ago. We also use Prednisolone twice daily. As of today, he is testing negative for FeLV. He has the non-regenerative anemia, and so far so good, his HCT has stayed within normal limits. We have now just gone down to once monthly on the LTCI and see how he does. We also consult with a specialist long distance, that has done his research in bone marrow transfusions in cats. Our cat will be used in his studies as well as a case study with our own Vet. We hope we can have continued success. We also know reality and that he will not live for many, many years. However, we have appreciated the time that we have had with him and hope for the best. Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:19:58 -0500 From: jb...@tds.net To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator Hello everyone, I really hope this email works. I have been a part of this community for awhile but don't often respond. I did, however, want to share this with you. I have had two cats die from severe anemia and bone marrow suppression associated from felv+. It is a common cause of death for these guys and I have heard over and again in this forum. I currently have another sweet little girl who is about 1 1/2 years old. She was doing well until recently when she started to become lethargic, stopped eating and was found to have a hematocrit of 11%. This is really, really, really low. It is a non-regenerative anemia, with signs of lymphoma. This is pretty much a death sentence for these guys. A blood transfusion would only prolong the sufferng So here's the deal. I found a vet that had the immunomodulator (from Imulan), got the shot and gave it to her on Friday. Her energy is gradually improving, her mucous membrane are pinking up and there are signs of improvement. I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I have to tell you that this is currently the best option out there for treating this disease. I found some of the information on it. There is rapid and profound improvement of anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and in some cases, return to normal with negative testing for the virus. I know there isn't a full proof cure out there but I have to say this may prove to be very helpful. The long terms studies are still pending. So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone marrow suppression (including anemia - low red blood cells, thrombocytopenia - low platelets, neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or lymphopenia - low lymphocyte count) and may or may not have the associated infections; I highly recommend giving this a try. It is a simple subcutaneous shot given weekly at first and than monthly with improvement of bone marrow suppression and clinical symptoms. It requires a vet order to get it. It is a far better alternative than the repeat cycle of blood transfusions, antibiotic regimens and prednisone. I will let you know how she does. Good luck everyone and God bless you for your generous and selfless hearts. Jenny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
Thanks for this. I was just wondering about Snowball last night!!! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Just wanted to update everyone. Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada. Just got a voicemail from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you would think he had always lived there. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
fur out On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.comwrote: Just wanted to update everyone. Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada. Just got a voicemail from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you would think he had always lived there. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator
personally, i will be far more likely to believe anything about LCTI when there is ADEQUATE research done on the product (the preliminary research was done with a statistically insignificant sample), there are independent findings that confirm the company's claims, and the treatment is fully approved. incidentally, i've heard that FeLVs are NOT tested with the IFA before treatment to ensure that they truly are positive to start with. imulan's website uses WIKIPEDIA as its source for FeLV information. I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I have to tell you that this is currently the best option out there for treating this disease. I found some of the information on it. There is rapid and profound improvement of anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and in some cases, return to normal with negative testing for the virus. I know there isn't a full proof cure out there but I have to say this may prove to be very helpful. The long terms studies are still pending. So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone marrow suppression (including anemia - low red blood cells, thrombocytopenia - low platelets, neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or lymphopenia - low lymphocyte count) and may or may not have the associated infections; I highly recommend giving this a try.: this sounds like an advertisement, not at all what someone would actually write on their own. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
Very cool! Kudos to everybody involved! And welcome-home skritches to Snowball. ;-) Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Just wanted to update everyone. Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada. Just got a voicemail from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you would think he had always lived there. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator
Mary Christine, I appreciate your skepticism. I am a pathology resident in human medicine and have no affiliation or connection with imulan. I am simply a cat lover who has lost two felv+ cats to this disease. It is devastating. I have seen them be happy, energetic, wonderful, loving cats and then watched them fade into thin, weak shells of their former selves. And then I have had to make the heart wrenching decision to put them down. I am entirely frustrated with the current mentality surrounding Felv+ - the general idea that there are so many cats out there that we should just let these die. I have never been one who has been able to sit around and feel helpless when the ones I care about fade into death. I am not by any means saying ltci is the cure all answer to this disease. I am only saying that as of yet it is the most promising treatment out there. And if there is a chance I can help this little girl (and in the process countless others) I will do whatever is in my power to do it. I honestly have no idea if this will work or not and honestly last night I really doubted it. But she's still fighting and so I'll continue to pray and to fight with her. If this doesn't work, I will let all of you know. I just wanted to give you the information I had. Here's a thought, prior to the discovery of Penicillin countless people were dying from bacterial infections. Now it is so common place and so effective, you would be remiss to not use it. Every new treatment has skeptics and rightly so, but maybe this could actually help. If so, why not try it? And by the way, I did write this on my own, no prompting from anyone. I just saw a glimmer of hope and wanted to share. Thanks, Jenny On 8/25/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: personally, i will be far more likely to believe anything about LCTI when there is ADEQUATE research done on the product (the preliminary research was done with a statistically insignificant sample), there are independent findings that confirm the company's claims, and the treatment is fully approved. incidentally, i've heard that FeLVs are NOT tested with the IFA before treatment to ensure that they truly are positive to start with. imulan's website uses WIKIPEDIA as its source for FeLV information. I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I have to tell you that this is currently the best option out there for treating this disease. I found some of the information on it. There is rapid and profound improvement of anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and in some cases, return to normal with negative testing for the virus. I know there isn't a full proof cure out there but I have to say this may prove to be very helpful. The long terms studies are still pending. So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone marrow suppression (including anemia - low red blood cells, thrombocytopenia - low platelets, neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or lymphopenia - low lymphocyte count) and may or may not have the associated infections; I highly recommend giving this a try.: this sounds like an advertisement, not at all what someone would actually write on their own. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
Hello everyone, I spoke to Michael a few minutes ago and Snowball is doing great. He is getting along pretty well with the family and other cats. I'm so happy. Michael will post pictures soon. Before Snowball I knew nothing about rescue. I'm glad he came into my life and made me aware of the harsh lives of stray and abandoned cats. I admire all the people who do rescue because although is rewarding it is also sad. I cried when Snowball left. I miss him so much. It's hard to let go but we have to do what is best for the animal. That is the one thing about rescue that I don't like is saying Goodbye. Reyna --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 10:57 AM Just wanted to update everyone. Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada. Just got a voicemail from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you would think he had always lived there. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator
I appreciate your input Jenny. I first heard about Imulan when I joined this list, two years ago, with a symptomatic Felv cat. At the time many of the list members were suspicious of the company that had recently purchased Imulan because they had terminated an on going, limited, research study. I was desperate at the time and asked my vet to look into getting Imulan for me. She called the company and was very discouraged by their lack of transparency and she discouraged me from pursuing it. I managed to treat my cat with supplements and homeopathy and was able to get her to a place where her quality of life was good, although I was never able to rid her completely of stomatitis. I started using interferon about 8 months ago and she has been able to maintain a fairly stable (other than flare ups of stomatitis) quality of health. Her appetite is good and while she is thin she has been able to gain and hold a bit of weight. Like you, I will do anything to help her from 'fading into death' and would be very willing to try Imulan if I can find a vet who knows about it and is willing to help me. I am really happy to hear that you are giving it a try. I hope it helps your kitty and appreciate your willingness to share your experience with us. Hoping that your kitty responds to it. Jane On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:56 PM, jbero tds.net wrote: Mary Christine, I appreciate your skepticism. I am a pathology resident in human medicine and have no affiliation or connection with imulan. I am simply a cat lover who has lost two felv+ cats to this disease. It is devastating. I have seen them be happy, energetic, wonderful, loving cats and then watched them fade into thin, weak shells of their former selves. And then I have had to make the heart wrenching decision to put them down. I am entirely frustrated with the current mentality surrounding Felv + - the general idea that there are so many cats out there that we should just let these die. I have never been one who has been able to sit around and feel helpless when the ones I care about fade into death. I am not by any means saying ltci is the cure all answer to this disease. I am only saying that as of yet it is the most promising treatment out there. And if there is a chance I can help this little girl (and in the process countless others) I will do whatever is in my power to do it. I honestly have no idea if this will work or not and honestly last night I really doubted it. But she's still fighting and so I'll continue to pray and to fight with her. If this doesn't work, I will let all of you know. I just wanted to give you the information I had. Here's a thought, prior to the discovery of Penicillin countless people were dying from bacterial infections. Now it is so common place and so effective, you would be remiss to not use it. Every new treatment has skeptics and rightly so, but maybe this could actually help. If so, why not try it? And by the way, I did write this on my own, no prompting from anyone. I just saw a glimmer of hope and wanted to share. Thanks, Jenny On 8/25/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: personally, i will be far more likely to believe anything about LCTI when there is ADEQUATE research done on the product (the preliminary research was done with a statistically insignificant sample), there are independent findings that confirm the company's claims, and the treatment is fully approved. incidentally, i've heard that FeLVs are NOT tested with the IFA before treatment to ensure that they truly are positive to start with. imulan's website uses WIKIPEDIA as its source for FeLV information. I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I have to tell you that this is currently the best option out there for treating this disease. I found some of the information on it. There is rapid and profound improvement of anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and in some cases, return to normal with negative testing for the virus. I know there isn't a full proof cure out there but I have to say this may prove to be very helpful. The long terms studies are still pending. So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone marrow suppression (including anemia - low red blood cells, thrombocytopenia - low platelets, neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or lymphopenia - low lymphocyte count) and may or may not have the associated infections; I highly recommend giving this a try.: this sounds like an advertisement, not at all what someone would actually write on their own. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator
jenny, knowing that you're a human medicine person makes me apologize for, and revise, my statement regarding your statements sounding like an ad. would i have been in the first line of beta-testers for penicillin? probably not. would i have used it when it only had provisional approval, was very expensive, and the only research available was provided by the one company had a financial investment in it? maybe, if there were ENOUGH research, over enough time, and if i didn't know way too many vets who have the same objections that sally's had. i would LOVE for there to be a cure for FeLV, or at least a treatment that has a decent rate of efficacy. i haven't seen anything that shows me that this is it--and their lack of good data, resources on the virus etc., and questionable marketing practices all make me wonder what their bottom line really is. i expect that it's probably much harder to do pure research now than it was when mold was being grown on slices of bread, without the involvement of vast sums of money, but i still require more than a company (that just recently bought out the folks who actually developed the product) say-so. (and i'm an old hippie herbalist, so it's not like i have any investment in pharmaceuticals!) thanks for explaining your decision-making process: actually, i'm quite convinced from what i've read, that LCTI won't HURT our cats. i'd be a LOT happier if they were doing rigorous research through clinical trials, instead of charging people to be their research subjects MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
He had quite the adventure along the way, with the first overnight in LA and the second overnight near Sacramento. At each stop he got a private room, catered meals, catnip. And he shared a turkey sandwich with the truck driver who took him from Bakersfield to Sacramento. He was a great traveler, not at all stressed out. I think he may have actually enjoyed his little road trip. - Original Message From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:01:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Thanks for this. I was just wondering about Snowball last night!!! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Just wanted to update everyone. Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada. Just got a voicemail from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you would think he had always lived there. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Snowball
HELLO EVERYONE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HELPED SNOWBALL. THANK YOU FOR HELPING HIM GET TO HIS FOREVER HOME. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME! I spoke to Michael a few minutes ago and Snowball is doing great. He is getting along pretty well with the family and other cats. I'm so happy. Michael will post pictures soon. Before Snowball I knew nothing about rescue. I'm glad he came into my life and made me aware of the harsh lives of stray and abandoned cats. I admire all the people who do rescue because although is rewarding it is also sad. I cried when Snowball left. I miss him so much. It's hard to let go but we have to do what is best for the animal. That is the one thing about rescue that I don't like is saying Goodbye. Reyna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
I'm sure Snowball enjoyed the turkey sandwich. He loves turkey! Everyone took great care of him. He was treated like a king. --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:04 PM He had quite the adventure along the way, with the first overnight in LA and the second overnight near Sacramento. At each stop he got a private room, catered meals, catnip. And he shared a turkey sandwich with the truck driver who took him from Bakersfield to Sacramento. He was a great traveler, not at all stressed out. I think he may have actually enjoyed his little road trip. - Original Message From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:01:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Thanks for this. I was just wondering about Snowball last night!!! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Just wanted to update everyone. Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada. Just got a voicemail from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you would think he had always lived there. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball
Letting go never gets any easier, Reynabut we do what we pray is the right thing for them. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:08:06 -0700 From: rcpin...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Snowball HELLO EVERYONE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HELPED SNOWBALL. THANK YOU FOR HELPING HIM GET TO HIS FOREVER HOME. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME! I spoke to Michael a few minutes ago and Snowball is doing great. He is getting along pretty well with the family and other cats. I'm so happy. Michael will post pictures soon. Before Snowball I knew nothing about rescue. I'm glad he came into my life and made me aware of the harsh lives of stray and abandoned cats. I admire all the people who do rescue because although is rewarding it is also sad. I cried when Snowball left. I miss him so much. It's hard to let go but we have to do what is best for the animal. That is the one thing about rescue that I don't like is saying Goodbye. Reyna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-edit.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
Thanks for the update. Snowball is quite the traveler. Sounds like a real adventure for him. Glad he made it safe and sound. Sharyl --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 4:04 PM He had quite the adventure along the way, with the first overnight in LA and the second overnight near Sacramento. At each stop he got a private room, catered meals, catnip. And he shared a turkey sandwich with the truck driver who took him from Bakersfield to Sacramento. He was a great traveler, not at all stressed out. I think he may have actually enjoyed his little road trip. - Original Message From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:01:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Thanks for this. I was just wondering about Snowball last night!!! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Just wanted to update everyone. Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada. Just got a voicemail from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you would think he had always lived there. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
i think that snowball has learned the most important lesson of all: that trusting people can be a very good thing! it's been an honor to be part of his journey. MC On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the update. Snowball is quite the traveler. Sounds like a real adventure for him. Glad he made it safe and sound. Sharyl --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 4:04 PM He had quite the adventure along the way, with the first overnight in LA and the second overnight near Sacramento. At each stop he got a private room, catered meals, catnip. And he shared a turkey sandwich with the truck driver who took him from Bakersfield to Sacramento. He was a great traveler, not at all stressed out. I think he may have actually enjoyed his little road trip. - Original Message From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:01:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Thanks for this. I was just wondering about Snowball last night!!! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Just wanted to update everyone. Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada. Just got a voicemail from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you would think he had always lived there. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball
well, i always cry into their fur when they leave, but their being able to leave means i've done my job: turned them from little furballs who weren't sure that anyone would ever love them, to cats who can shine brightly enough to attract their forever homes. so i cry, and give them bus fare home should they need it, and know that while they might have been in my house just a short time, they will always have a spot in my heart. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball
Yes it does, it gets much easier. I always tell people that if you foster long enough you'll reach the point where you cry when they DON'T leave. - Original Message From: Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball Letting go never gets any easier, Reynabut we do what we pray is the right thing for them. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:08:06 -0700 From: rcpin...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Snowball HELLO EVERYONE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HELPED SNOWBALL. THANK YOU FOR HELPING HIM GET TO HIS FOREVER HOME. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME! I spoke to Michael a few minutes ago and Snowball is doing great. He is getting along pretty well with the family and other cats. I'm so happy. Michael will post pictures soon. Before Snowball I knew nothing about rescue. I'm glad he came into my life and made me aware of the harsh lives of stray and abandoned cats. I admire all the people who do rescue because although is rewarding it is also sad. I cried when Snowball left. I miss him so much. It's hard to let go but we have to do what is best for the animal. That is the one thing about rescue that I don't like is saying Goodbye. Reyna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-edit.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator
Thanks Jenny, I hope your sweet girl pulls through. Please keep us posted. Amy --- On Tue, 8/25/09, jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: From: jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 11:01 AM Amy, The shot cost me $60. It is somewhat expensive and still pretty new to the field. I think if you can get them started early on before the bone marrow suppression starts you have a better chance at controlling the virus. I don't know all the details. I am planning on calling them today to ask a few more questions. I will keep you updated. Good luck with your decision. Jenny On 8/24/09, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: Jenny, Do you mind me asking the price of a shot? I'm thinking of trying this for my cats but I think I heard $90 a shot somewhere and I'm thinking that means $360 the first month, $200 the second month, and $90 a month after that. I have several cats and am trying to figure out if it's practical for me to start it. Thanks Amy --- On Mon, 8/24/09, jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: From: jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net Subject: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 5:19 PM Hello everyone, I really hope this email works. I have been a part of this community for awhile but don't often respond. I did, however, want to share this with you. I have had two cats die from severe anemia and bone marrow suppression associated from felv+. It is a common cause of death for these guys and I have heard over and again in this forum. I currently have another sweet little girl who is about 1 1/2 years old. She was doing well until recently when she started to become lethargic, stopped eating and was found to have a hematocrit of 11%. This is really, really, really low. It is a non-regenerative anemia, with signs of lymphoma. This is pretty much a death sentence for these guys. A blood transfusion would only prolong the sufferng So here's the deal. I found a vet that had the immunomodulator (from Imulan), got the shot and gave it to her on Friday. Her energy is gradually improving, her mucous membrane are pinking up and there are signs of improvement. I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I have to tell you that this is currently the best option out there for treating this disease. I found some of the information on it. There is rapid and profound improvement of anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and in some cases, return to normal with negative testing for the virus. I know there isn't a full proof cure out there but I have to say this may prove to be very helpful. The long terms studies are still pending. So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone marrow suppression (including anemia - low red blood cells, thrombocytopenia - low platelets, neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or lymphopenia - low lymphocyte count) and may or may not have the associated infections; I highly recommend giving this a try. It is a simple subcutaneous shot given weekly at first and than monthly with improvement of bone marrow suppression and clinical symptoms. It requires a vet order to get it. It is a far better alternative than the repeat cycle of blood transfusions, antibiotic regimens and prednisone. I will let you know how she does. Good luck everyone and God bless you for your generous and selfless hearts. Jenny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org