Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary

2009-08-25 Thread Second Chance Meows
WOW, I sit here and read all this about all these NEW places to take FeLV cats 
and get very scared... $7500???   for the life   and i feel bad asking $500 for 
the lifetime  and all we take are FeLV's..  who are these people and where do 
they get off asking that much???

 Michael Johnson
Founder/Owner
Second Chance Meows
A FeLV Sanctuary





From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:17:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a 
Sanctuary

Hmmm.  Only 10 cats listed for adoption on their petfinder site.  And only one 
of those, an FIV+ boy, is listed as special needs.  

This also makes me suspicious about the long term viability of the place.  You 
have to be committed to finding homes for the cats.  They need human families, 
attention, and they won't get that in a giant sanctuary setting.  And if you're 
not focused on adoptions, you have to strictly limit your intake to avoid 
becoming overwhelmed.



- Original Message 
From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a 
Sanctuary

Never heard of them.  

According to their website they've only been around since 2005.  Lots-of-cats 
in a rural setting always makes me nervous.  And, whoa!  They want a $5000 
surrender fee for a healthy cat and $7500 to take in an FIV or FeLV cat.  I 
guess that's one way to make sure you don't wind up with too many animals.



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From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:02:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a 
Sanctuary

http://www.loveandhopeforanimals.org/

has anyone ever heard of these folks before?

i find it really scary how many sanctuaries keep appearing, with no history
in the FIV/FeLV community.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary

2009-08-25 Thread Debbie Harrison

My thoughts exactly.

Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo


 
 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:34:14 -0700
 From: secondchanceme...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a 
 Sanctuary
 
 WOW, I sit here and read all this about all these NEW places to take FeLV 
 cats and get very scared... $7500??? for the life and i feel bad asking $500 
 for the lifetime and all we take are FeLV's.. who are these people and where 
 do they get off asking that much???
 
 Michael Johnson
 Founder/Owner
 Second Chance Meows
 A FeLV Sanctuary
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:17:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a 
 Sanctuary
 
 Hmmm. Only 10 cats listed for adoption on their petfinder site. And only one 
 of those, an FIV+ boy, is listed as special needs. 
 
 This also makes me suspicious about the long term viability of the place. You 
 have to be committed to finding homes for the cats. They need human families, 
 attention, and they won't get that in a giant sanctuary setting. And if 
 you're not focused on adoptions, you have to strictly limit your intake to 
 avoid becoming overwhelmed.
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:12:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a 
 Sanctuary
 
 Never heard of them. 
 
 According to their website they've only been around since 2005. Lots-of-cats 
 in a rural setting always makes me nervous. And, whoa! They want a $5000 
 surrender fee for a healthy cat and $7500 to take in an FIV or FeLV cat. I 
 guess that's one way to make sure you don't wind up with too many animals.
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:02:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a 
 Sanctuary
 
 http://www.loveandhopeforanimals.org/
 
 has anyone ever heard of these folks before?
 
 i find it really scary how many sanctuaries keep appearing, with no history
 in the FIV/FeLV community.
 
 MC
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator

2009-08-25 Thread jbero tds.net
Amy,

The shot cost me $60.  It is somewhat expensive and still pretty new to the
field.  I think if you can get them started early on before the bone marrow
suppression starts you have a better chance at controlling the virus.  I
don't know all the details.  I am planning on calling them today to ask a
few more questions.  I will keep you updated.  Good luck with your decision.

Jenny


On 8/24/09, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Jenny,

 Do you mind me asking the price of a shot?  I'm thinking of trying this for
 my cats but I think I heard $90 a shot somewhere and I'm thinking that means
 $360 the first month, $200 the second month, and $90 a month after that.  I
 have several cats and am trying to figure out if it's practical for me to
 start it.

 Thanks
 Amy

 --- On Mon, 8/24/09, jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote:

  From: jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 5:19 PM
  Hello everyone,
 
  I really hope this email works.  I have been a part of
  this community for
  awhile but don't often respond.  I did, however, want
  to share this with
  you.
 
  I have had two cats die from severe anemia and bone marrow
  suppression
  associated from felv+.  It is a common cause of death
  for these guys and I
  have heard over and again in this forum.
 
  I currently have another sweet little girl who is about 1
  1/2 years old.
  She was doing well until recently when she started to
  become lethargic,
  stopped eating and was found to have a hematocrit of
  11%.  This is really,
  really, really low.  It is a non-regenerative anemia,
  with signs of
  lymphoma.  This is pretty much a death sentence for
  these guys.  A blood
  transfusion would only prolong the sufferng
 
  So here's the deal.  I found a vet that had the
  immunomodulator (from
  Imulan), got the shot and gave it to her on Friday.
  Her energy is gradually
  improving, her mucous membrane are pinking up and there are
  signs of
  improvement.
 
  I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I have to
  tell you that this
  is currently the best option out there for treating this
  disease.  I found
  some of the information on it.  There is rapid and
  profound improvement of
  anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and in some
  cases, return to
  normal with negative testing for the virus.
 
  I know there isn't a full proof cure out there but I have
  to say this may
  prove to be very helpful.  The long terms studies are
  still pending.
 
  So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone marrow
  suppression
  (including anemia - low red blood cells, thrombocytopenia -
  low platelets,
  neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or lymphopenia -
  low lymphocyte
  count) and may or may not have the associated
  infections;  I highly
  recommend giving this a try.
 
  It is a simple subcutaneous shot given weekly at first and
  than monthly with
  improvement of bone marrow suppression and clinical
  symptoms.  It requires a
  vet order to get it.
 
  It is a far better alternative than the repeat cycle of
  blood transfusions,
  antibiotic regimens and prednisone.
 
  I will let you know how she does.
 
  Good luck everyone and God bless you for your generous and
  selfless hearts.
 
  Jenny
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Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator

2009-08-25 Thread Catherine Caughie
Jenny,

I'm very much interested in this procedure also as I have a one year old 
Siamese mix female diagnosed with the same disease 2 1/2 weeks ago.  Please 
include me in your postings and findings.  Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:02 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator

Amy,

The shot cost me $60.  It is somewhat expensive and still pretty new to the
field.  I think if you can get them started early on before the bone marrow
suppression starts you have a better chance at controlling the virus.  I
don't know all the details.  I am planning on calling them today to ask a
few more questions.  I will keep you updated.  Good luck with your decision.

Jenny


On 8/24/09, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Jenny,

 Do you mind me asking the price of a shot?  I'm thinking of trying this for
 my cats but I think I heard $90 a shot somewhere and I'm thinking that means
 $360 the first month, $200 the second month, and $90 a month after that.  I
 have several cats and am trying to figure out if it's practical for me to
 start it.

 Thanks
 Amy

 --- On Mon, 8/24/09, jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote:

  From: jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 5:19 PM
  Hello everyone,
 
  I really hope this email works.  I have been a part of
  this community for
  awhile but don't often respond.  I did, however, want
  to share this with
  you.
 
  I have had two cats die from severe anemia and bone marrow
  suppression
  associated from felv+.  It is a common cause of death
  for these guys and I
  have heard over and again in this forum.
 
  I currently have another sweet little girl who is about 1
  1/2 years old.
  She was doing well until recently when she started to
  become lethargic,
  stopped eating and was found to have a hematocrit of
  11%.  This is really,
  really, really low.  It is a non-regenerative anemia,
  with signs of
  lymphoma.  This is pretty much a death sentence for
  these guys.  A blood
  transfusion would only prolong the sufferng
 
  So here's the deal.  I found a vet that had the
  immunomodulator (from
  Imulan), got the shot and gave it to her on Friday.
  Her energy is gradually
  improving, her mucous membrane are pinking up and there are
  signs of
  improvement.
 
  I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I have to
  tell you that this
  is currently the best option out there for treating this
  disease.  I found
  some of the information on it.  There is rapid and
  profound improvement of
  anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and in some
  cases, return to
  normal with negative testing for the virus.
 
  I know there isn't a full proof cure out there but I have
  to say this may
  prove to be very helpful.  The long terms studies are
  still pending.
 
  So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone marrow
  suppression
  (including anemia - low red blood cells, thrombocytopenia -
  low platelets,
  neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or lymphopenia -
  low lymphocyte
  count) and may or may not have the associated
  infections;  I highly
  recommend giving this a try.
 
  It is a simple subcutaneous shot given weekly at first and
  than monthly with
  improvement of bone marrow suppression and clinical
  symptoms.  It requires a
  vet order to get it.
 
  It is a far better alternative than the repeat cycle of
  blood transfusions,
  antibiotic regimens and prednisone.
 
  I will let you know how she does.
 
  Good luck everyone and God bless you for your generous and
  selfless hearts.
 
  Jenny
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[Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

2009-08-25 Thread Susan Hoffman
Just wanted to update everyone.  Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has 
made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada.  Just got a voicemail from 
Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

2009-08-25 Thread Barb Moermond
yay!!!

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From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:57:32 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update:  Snowball has made it to Reno

Just wanted to update everyone.  Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has 
made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada.  Just got a voicemail from 
Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you 
would think he had always lived there.  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

2009-08-25 Thread Debbie Harrison

What wonderful news!

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 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:57:32 -0700
 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
 
 Just wanted to update everyone.  Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has 
 made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada.  Just got a voicemail from 
 Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you 
 would think he had always lived there.  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator

2009-08-25 Thread Christy Buchin

I have shared this information here before.  However, our cat, Gray Kitty, was 
diagnosed with FeLV on September 6, 2008.  At that time he has a hematocrit of 
9%..very near death.  We have used LTCI since his second blood transfusion, 
which has been many, many, months ago.  We also use Prednisolone twice daily.  
As of today, he is testing negative for FeLV.  He has  the non-regenerative 
anemia, and so far so good, his HCT has stayed within normal limits.  We have 
now just gone down to once monthly on the LTCI and see how he does.  We also 
consult with a specialist long distance, that has done his research in bone 
marrow transfusions in cats.  Our cat will be used in his studies as well as a 
case study with our own Vet.  We hope we can have continued success.  We also 
know reality and that he will not live for many, many years.  However, we have 
appreciated the time that we have had with him and hope for the best.
 
 Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:19:58 -0500
 From: jb...@tds.net
 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I really hope this email works. I have been a part of this community for
 awhile but don't often respond. I did, however, want to share this with
 you.
 
 I have had two cats die from severe anemia and bone marrow suppression
 associated from felv+. It is a common cause of death for these guys and I
 have heard over and again in this forum.
 
 I currently have another sweet little girl who is about 1 1/2 years old.
 She was doing well until recently when she started to become lethargic,
 stopped eating and was found to have a hematocrit of 11%. This is really,
 really, really low. It is a non-regenerative anemia, with signs of
 lymphoma. This is pretty much a death sentence for these guys. A blood
 transfusion would only prolong the sufferng
 
 So here's the deal. I found a vet that had the immunomodulator (from
 Imulan), got the shot and gave it to her on Friday. Her energy is gradually
 improving, her mucous membrane are pinking up and there are signs of
 improvement.
 
 I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I have to tell you that this
 is currently the best option out there for treating this disease. I found
 some of the information on it. There is rapid and profound improvement of
 anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and in some cases, return to
 normal with negative testing for the virus.
 
 I know there isn't a full proof cure out there but I have to say this may
 prove to be very helpful. The long terms studies are still pending.
 
 So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone marrow suppression
 (including anemia - low red blood cells, thrombocytopenia - low platelets,
 neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or lymphopenia - low lymphocyte
 count) and may or may not have the associated infections; I highly
 recommend giving this a try.
 
 It is a simple subcutaneous shot given weekly at first and than monthly with
 improvement of bone marrow suppression and clinical symptoms. It requires a
 vet order to get it.
 
 It is a far better alternative than the repeat cycle of blood transfusions,
 antibiotic regimens and prednisone.
 
 I will let you know how she does.
 
 Good luck everyone and God bless you for your generous and selfless hearts.
 
 Jenny
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

2009-08-25 Thread Laurieskatz
Thanks for this. I was just wondering about Snowball last night!!!

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

Just wanted to update everyone.  Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has
made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada.  Just got a voicemail from
Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

2009-08-25 Thread MaryChristine
fur out

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Just wanted to update everyone.  Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles,
 has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada.  Just got a voicemail
 from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily
 that you would think he had always lived there.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator

2009-08-25 Thread MaryChristine
personally, i will be far more likely to believe anything about LCTI when
there is ADEQUATE research done on the product (the preliminary research was
done with a statistically insignificant sample), there are independent
findings that confirm the company's claims, and the treatment is fully
approved.

incidentally, i've heard that FeLVs are NOT tested with the IFA before
treatment to ensure that they truly are positive to start with.

imulan's website uses WIKIPEDIA as its source for FeLV information.

I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I have to tell you that
this
is currently the best option out there for treating this disease.  I found
some of the information on it.  There is rapid and profound improvement of
anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and in some cases, return to
normal with negative testing for the virus.

I know there isn't a full proof cure out there but I have to say this may
prove to be very helpful.  The long terms studies are still pending.

So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone marrow suppression
(including anemia - low red blood cells, thrombocytopenia - low platelets,
neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or lymphopenia - low lymphocyte
count) and may or may not have the associated infections;  I highly
recommend giving this a try.:

this sounds like an advertisement, not at all what someone would actually
write on their own.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

2009-08-25 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Very cool! Kudos to everybody involved! And welcome-home skritches to
Snowball. ;-)

Diane R. 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

Just wanted to update everyone.  Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has
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Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you
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Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator

2009-08-25 Thread jbero tds.net
Mary Christine,

I appreciate your skepticism.  I am a pathology resident in human medicine
and have no affiliation or connection with imulan.  I am simply a cat lover
who has lost two felv+ cats to this disease.  It is devastating.  I have
seen them be happy, energetic, wonderful, loving cats and then watched them
fade into thin, weak shells of their former selves.  And then I have had to
make the heart wrenching decision to put them down.

I am entirely frustrated with the current mentality surrounding Felv+ - the
general idea that there are so many cats out there that we should just let
these die.  I have never been one who has been able to sit around and feel
helpless when the ones I care about fade into death.  I am not by any means
saying ltci is the cure all answer to this disease.  I am only saying that
as of yet it is the most promising treatment out there.  And if there is a
chance I can help this little girl (and in the process countless others) I
will do whatever is in my power to do it.

I honestly have no idea if this will work or not and honestly last night I
really doubted it.  But she's still fighting and so I'll continue to pray
and to fight with her.  If this doesn't work, I will let all of you know.  I
just wanted to give you the information I had.

Here's a thought, prior to the discovery of Penicillin countless people were
dying from bacterial infections.  Now it is so common place and so
effective, you would be remiss to not use it.  Every new treatment has
skeptics and rightly so, but maybe this could actually help.  If so, why not
try it?

And by the way, I did write this on my own, no prompting from anyone.  I
just saw a glimmer of hope and wanted to share.

Thanks,

Jenny








On 8/25/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:

 personally, i will be far more likely to believe anything about LCTI when
 there is ADEQUATE research done on the product (the preliminary research
 was
 done with a statistically insignificant sample), there are independent
 findings that confirm the company's claims, and the treatment is fully
 approved.

 incidentally, i've heard that FeLVs are NOT tested with the IFA before
 treatment to ensure that they truly are positive to start with.

 imulan's website uses WIKIPEDIA as its source for FeLV information.

 I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I have to tell you that
 this
 is currently the best option out there for treating this disease.  I found
 some of the information on it.  There is rapid and profound improvement of
 anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and in some cases, return to
 normal with negative testing for the virus.

 I know there isn't a full proof cure out there but I have to say this may
 prove to be very helpful.  The long terms studies are still pending.

 So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone marrow suppression
 (including anemia - low red blood cells, thrombocytopenia - low platelets,
 neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or lymphopenia - low lymphocyte
 count) and may or may not have the associated infections;  I highly
 recommend giving this a try.:

 this sounds like an advertisement, not at all what someone would actually
 write on their own.

 MC

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Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

2009-08-25 Thread Reyna Castano
Hello everyone,
 
I spoke to Michael a few minutes ago and Snowball is doing great. He is getting 
along pretty well with the family and other cats. I'm so happy. Michael 
will post pictures soon.
 
Before Snowball I knew nothing about rescue. I'm glad he came into my life and 
made me aware of the harsh lives of stray and abandoned cats. 
 
I admire all the people who do rescue because although is rewarding it is also 
sad.  I cried when Snowball left. I miss him so much. 
It's hard to let go but we have to do what is best for the animal. That is the 
one thing about rescue that I don't like is saying Goodbye. 
 
Reyna
--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 10:57 AM


Just wanted to update everyone.  Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has 
made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada.  Just got a voicemail from 
Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you 
would think he had always lived there.  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator

2009-08-25 Thread Jane Lyons

I appreciate your input Jenny.

I first heard about Imulan when I joined this list, two years ago,  
with a symptomatic Felv
cat. At the time many of the list members were suspicious of the  
company that had recently
purchased Imulan because they had terminated an on going, limited,  
research study.


I was desperate at the time and asked my vet to look into getting  
Imulan for me. She called the
company and was very discouraged by their lack of transparency and  
she discouraged me from
pursuing it. I managed to treat my cat with supplements and  
homeopathy and was able to get her
to a place where her quality of life was good, although I was never  
able to rid her completely of
stomatitis. I started using interferon about 8 months ago and she has  
been able to maintain a fairly
stable (other than flare ups of stomatitis) quality of health. Her  
appetite is good and while she is thin

she has been able to gain and hold a bit of weight.

Like you, I will do anything to help her from 'fading into death' and  
would be very willing to try Imulan

if I can find a vet who knows about it and is willing to help me.

I am really happy to hear that you are giving it a try. I hope it  
helps your kitty and appreciate your

willingness to share your experience with us.

Hoping that your kitty responds to it.

Jane





On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:56 PM, jbero tds.net wrote:


Mary Christine,

I appreciate your skepticism.  I am a pathology resident in human  
medicine
and have no affiliation or connection with imulan.  I am simply a  
cat lover
who has lost two felv+ cats to this disease.  It is devastating.  I  
have
seen them be happy, energetic, wonderful, loving cats and then  
watched them
fade into thin, weak shells of their former selves.  And then I  
have had to

make the heart wrenching decision to put them down.

I am entirely frustrated with the current mentality surrounding Felv 
+ - the
general idea that there are so many cats out there that we should  
just let
these die.  I have never been one who has been able to sit around  
and feel
helpless when the ones I care about fade into death.  I am not by  
any means
saying ltci is the cure all answer to this disease.  I am only  
saying that
as of yet it is the most promising treatment out there.  And if  
there is a
chance I can help this little girl (and in the process countless  
others) I

will do whatever is in my power to do it.

I honestly have no idea if this will work or not and honestly last  
night I
really doubted it.  But she's still fighting and so I'll continue  
to pray
and to fight with her.  If this doesn't work, I will let all of you  
know.  I

just wanted to give you the information I had.

Here's a thought, prior to the discovery of Penicillin countless  
people were

dying from bacterial infections.  Now it is so common place and so
effective, you would be remiss to not use it.  Every new treatment has
skeptics and rightly so, but maybe this could actually help.  If  
so, why not

try it?

And by the way, I did write this on my own, no prompting from  
anyone.  I

just saw a glimmer of hope and wanted to share.

Thanks,

Jenny








On 8/25/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:


personally, i will be far more likely to believe anything about  
LCTI when
there is ADEQUATE research done on the product (the preliminary  
research

was
done with a statistically insignificant sample), there are  
independent
findings that confirm the company's claims, and the treatment is  
fully

approved.

incidentally, i've heard that FeLVs are NOT tested with the IFA  
before

treatment to ensure that they truly are positive to start with.

imulan's website uses WIKIPEDIA as its source for FeLV information.

I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I have to tell  
you that

this
is currently the best option out there for treating this disease.   
I found
some of the information on it.  There is rapid and profound  
improvement of
anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and in some cases,  
return to

normal with negative testing for the virus.

I know there isn't a full proof cure out there but I have to say  
this may

prove to be very helpful.  The long terms studies are still pending.

So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone marrow suppression
(including anemia - low red blood cells, thrombocytopenia - low  
platelets,
neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or lymphopenia - low  
lymphocyte

count) and may or may not have the associated infections;  I highly
recommend giving this a try.:

this sounds like an advertisement, not at all what someone would  
actually

write on their own.

MC

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)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator

2009-08-25 Thread MaryChristine
jenny, knowing that you're a human medicine person makes me apologize for,
and revise, my statement regarding your statements sounding like an ad.

would i have been in the first line of beta-testers for penicillin? probably
not. would i have used it when it only had provisional approval, was very
expensive, and the only research available was provided by the one company
had a financial investment in it? maybe, if there were ENOUGH research, over
enough time, and if i didn't know way too many vets who have the same
objections that sally's had.

i would LOVE for there to be a cure for FeLV, or at least a treatment that
has a decent rate of efficacy.

i haven't seen anything that shows me that this is it--and their lack of
good data, resources on the virus etc., and questionable marketing practices
all make me wonder what their bottom line really is.

i expect that it's probably much harder to do pure research now than it was
when mold was being grown on slices of bread, without the involvement of
vast sums of money, but i still require more than a company (that just
recently bought out the folks who actually developed the product) say-so.

(and i'm an old hippie herbalist, so it's not like i have any investment in
pharmaceuticals!)

thanks for explaining your decision-making process: actually, i'm quite
convinced from what i've read, that LCTI won't HURT our cats. i'd be a
LOT happier if they were doing rigorous research through clinical trials,
instead of charging people to be their research subjects

MC



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Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

2009-08-25 Thread Susan Hoffman
He had quite the adventure along the way, with the first overnight in LA and 
the second overnight near Sacramento.  At each stop he got a private room, 
catered meals, catnip.  And he shared a turkey sandwich with the truck driver 
who took him from Bakersfield to Sacramento.  He was a great traveler, not at 
all stressed out.  I think he may have actually enjoyed his little road trip.



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Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:01:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

Thanks for this. I was just wondering about Snowball last night!!!

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

Just wanted to update everyone.  Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has
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Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you
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[Felvtalk] Snowball

2009-08-25 Thread Reyna Castano
HELLO EVERYONE,
 
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HELPED SNOWBALL. THANK YOU FOR HELPING 
HIM GET TO HIS FOREVER HOME. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!
 
I spoke to Michael a few minutes ago and Snowball is doing great. He is getting 
along pretty well with the family and other cats. I'm so happy. Michael 
will post pictures soon.
 
Before Snowball I knew nothing about rescue. I'm glad he came into my life and 
made me aware of the harsh lives of stray and abandoned cats. 
 
I admire all the people who do rescue because although is rewarding it is also 
sad.  I cried when Snowball left. I miss him so much. 
It's hard to let go but we have to do what is best for the animal. That is the 
one thing about rescue that I don't like is saying Goodbye. 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

2009-08-25 Thread Reyna Castano
I'm sure Snowball enjoyed the turkey sandwich. He loves turkey!
Everyone took great care of him. He was treated like a king.

--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:04 PM


He had quite the adventure along the way, with the first overnight in LA and 
the second overnight near Sacramento.  At each stop he got a private room, 
catered meals, catnip.  And he shared a turkey sandwich with the truck driver 
who took him from Bakersfield to Sacramento.  He was a great traveler, not at 
all stressed out.  I think he may have actually enjoyed his little road trip.



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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:01:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

Thanks for this. I was just wondering about Snowball last night!!!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

Just wanted to update everyone.  Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has
made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada.  Just got a voicemail from
Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you
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Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball

2009-08-25 Thread Debbie Harrison

Letting go never gets any easier, Reynabut we do what we pray is the right 
thing for them.

Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo


 
 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:08:06 -0700
 From: rcpin...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Snowball
 
 HELLO EVERYONE,
  
 I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HELPED SNOWBALL. THANK YOU FOR 
 HELPING HIM GET TO HIS FOREVER HOME. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!
  
 I spoke to Michael a few minutes ago and Snowball is doing great. He is 
 getting along pretty well with the family and other cats. I'm so happy. 
 Michael will post pictures soon.
  
 Before Snowball I knew nothing about rescue. I'm glad he came into my life 
 and made me aware of the harsh lives of stray and abandoned cats. 
  
 I admire all the people who do rescue because although is rewarding it is 
 also sad.  I cried when Snowball left. I miss him so much. 
 It's hard to let go but we have to do what is best for the animal. That is 
 the one thing about rescue that I don't like is saying Goodbye. 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

2009-08-25 Thread Sharyl
Thanks for the update.  Snowball is quite the traveler.  Sounds like a real 
adventure for him.  Glad he made it safe and sound.
Sharyl

--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update:  Snowball has made it to Reno
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 4:04 PM
 He had quite the adventure along the
 way, with the first overnight in LA and the second overnight
 near Sacramento.  At each stop he got a private room,
 catered meals, catnip.  And he shared a turkey sandwich
 with the truck driver who took him from Bakersfield to
 Sacramento.  He was a great traveler, not at all stressed
 out.  I think he may have actually enjoyed his little road
 trip.
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:01:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to
 Reno
 
 Thanks for this. I was just wondering about Snowball last
 night!!!
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:58 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
 
 Just wanted to update everyone.  Snowball, the FeLV+ cat
 in Los Angeles, has
 made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada.  Just got a
 voicemail from
 Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in
 so easily that you
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

2009-08-25 Thread MaryChristine
i think that snowball has learned the most important lesson of all: that
trusting people can be a very good thing!

it's been an honor to be part of his journey.

MC


On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thanks for the update.  Snowball is quite the traveler.  Sounds like a real
 adventure for him.  Glad he made it safe and sound.
 Sharyl

 --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote:

  From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update:  Snowball has made it to Reno
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 4:04 PM
  He had quite the adventure along the
  way, with the first overnight in LA and the second overnight
  near Sacramento.  At each stop he got a private room,
  catered meals, catnip.  And he shared a turkey sandwich
  with the truck driver who took him from Bakersfield to
  Sacramento.  He was a great traveler, not at all stressed
  out.  I think he may have actually enjoyed his little road
  trip.
 
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:01:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to
  Reno
 
  Thanks for this. I was just wondering about Snowball last
  night!!!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
  On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
  Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:58 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
 
  Just wanted to update everyone.  Snowball, the FeLV+ cat
  in Los Angeles, has
  made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada.  Just got a
  voicemail from
  Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in
  so easily that you
  would think he had always lived there.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball

2009-08-25 Thread MaryChristine
well, i always cry into their fur when they leave, but their being able to
leave means i've done my job: turned them from little furballs who weren't
sure that anyone would ever love them, to cats who can shine brightly enough
to attract their forever homes. so i cry, and give them bus fare home should
they need it, and know that while they might have been in my house just a
short time, they will always have a spot in my heart.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball

2009-08-25 Thread Susan Hoffman
Yes it does, it  gets much easier.  I always tell people that if you foster 
long enough you'll reach the point where you cry when they DON'T leave.



- Original Message 
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball


Letting go never gets any easier, Reynabut we do what we pray is the right 
thing for them.

Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo



 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:08:06 -0700
 From: rcpin...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Snowball
 
 HELLO EVERYONE,
  
 I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HELPED SNOWBALL. THANK YOU FOR 
 HELPING HIM GET TO HIS FOREVER HOME. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!
  
 I spoke to Michael a few minutes ago and Snowball is doing great. He is 
 getting along pretty well with the family and other cats. I'm so happy. 
 Michael will post pictures soon.
  
 Before Snowball I knew nothing about rescue. I'm glad he came into my life 
 and made me aware of the harsh lives of stray and abandoned cats. 
  
 I admire all the people who do rescue because although is rewarding it is 
 also sad.  I cried when Snowball left. I miss him so much. 
 It's hard to let go but we have to do what is best for the animal. That is 
 the one thing about rescue that I don't like is saying Goodbye. 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator

2009-08-25 Thread Amy
Thanks Jenny, 

I hope your sweet girl pulls through.  Please keep us posted.

Amy

--- On Tue, 8/25/09, jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote:

 From: jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic immunomodulator
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 11:01 AM
 Amy,
 
 The shot cost me $60.  It is somewhat expensive and
 still pretty new to the
 field.  I think if you can get them started early on
 before the bone marrow
 suppression starts you have a better chance at controlling
 the virus.  I
 don't know all the details.  I am planning on calling
 them today to ask a
 few more questions.  I will keep you updated. 
 Good luck with your decision.
 
 Jenny
 
 
 On 8/24/09, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  Jenny,
 
  Do you mind me asking the price of a shot?  I'm
 thinking of trying this for
  my cats but I think I heard $90 a shot somewhere and
 I'm thinking that means
  $360 the first month, $200 the second month, and $90 a
 month after that.  I
  have several cats and am trying to figure out if it's
 practical for me to
  start it.
 
  Thanks
  Amy
 
  --- On Mon, 8/24/09, jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net
 wrote:
 
   From: jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net
   Subject: [Felvtalk] Imulan - a t cell lymphocytic
 immunomodulator
   To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 5:19 PM
   Hello everyone,
  
   I really hope this email works.  I have been
 a part of
   this community for
   awhile but don't often respond.  I did,
 however, want
   to share this with
   you.
  
   I have had two cats die from severe anemia and
 bone marrow
   suppression
   associated from felv+.  It is a common cause
 of death
   for these guys and I
   have heard over and again in this forum.
  
   I currently have another sweet little girl who is
 about 1
   1/2 years old.
   She was doing well until recently when she
 started to
   become lethargic,
   stopped eating and was found to have a hematocrit
 of
   11%.  This is really,
   really, really low.  It is a
 non-regenerative anemia,
   with signs of
   lymphoma.  This is pretty much a death
 sentence for
   these guys.  A blood
   transfusion would only prolong the sufferng
  
   So here's the deal.  I found a vet that had
 the
   immunomodulator (from
   Imulan), got the shot and gave it to her on
 Friday.
   Her energy is gradually
   improving, her mucous membrane are pinking up and
 there are
   signs of
   improvement.
  
   I don't know if she'll pull through or not, but I
 have to
   tell you that this
   is currently the best option out there for
 treating this
   disease.  I found
   some of the information on it.  There is
 rapid and
   profound improvement of
   anemia, an increase in bone marrow activity and
 in some
   cases, return to
   normal with negative testing for the virus.
  
   I know there isn't a full proof cure out there
 but I have
   to say this may
   prove to be very helpful.  The long terms
 studies are
   still pending.
  
   So here's the deal, if you have a felv+ with bone
 marrow
   suppression
   (including anemia - low red blood cells,
 thrombocytopenia -
   low platelets,
   neutropenia - low levels of neutrophils, or
 lymphopenia -
   low lymphocyte
   count) and may or may not have the associated
   infections;  I highly
   recommend giving this a try.
  
   It is a simple subcutaneous shot given weekly at
 first and
   than monthly with
   improvement of bone marrow suppression and
 clinical
   symptoms.  It requires a
   vet order to get it.
  
   It is a far better alternative than the repeat
 cycle of
   blood transfusions,
   antibiotic regimens and prednisone.
  
   I will let you know how she does.
  
   Good luck everyone and God bless you for your
 generous and
   selfless hearts.
  
   Jenny
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