Re: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

[Amani Oakley]

Normally, with FeLV, the lymphocytes go up, not down.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Corinne Shank
Sent: September-26-16 12:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

The creatinine was at 1.5 and the bun was at 26 so well within normal.  I was 
more concerned about the Lymphocytes which was at 18 and the Absolute 
lymphocyte which was at 864.

I was wondering if I should go ahead and get the IFA test done.  I think I am 
hoping against hope as I think I know that she does have Felv.   I wish that I 
could treat her ear problems but it does not seem that any treatment has 
worked.  

 
On Sep 25, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:

> If there were blood clots, then that takes the platelets out of the blood. 
> Clots are made up of platelets, so the platelets are no longer "loose" and 
> the machine can therefore not detect the platelets.
> 
> What was the creatinine and urea? I don't think I would be too worried about 
> the sodium and albumin (though you haven't given me actual numbers) unless it 
> is early renal signs, so if the creatinine and urea are okay, and the sodium 
> and albumin are just a bit out of range, I wouldn't be too concerned.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Corinne Shank
> Sent: September-25-16 12:35 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs
> 
> My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
> yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
> tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup. 
>  When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
> had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
> blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a 
> death sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  
> When she had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole 
> (systematic fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast 
> ear infection.What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), 
> Sodium (high), platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute 
> Limphocy (low).  A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are 
> detected in the sample and CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what 
> this all
  m
> eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
> should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
> medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
> on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
> that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat.   
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

[Corinne Shank]

The creatinine was at 1.5 and the bun was at 26 so well within normal.  I was 
more concerned about the Lymphocytes which was at 18 and the Absolute 
lymphocyte which was at 864.

I was wondering if I should go ahead and get the IFA test done.  I think I am 
hoping against hope as I think I know that she does have Felv.   I wish that I 
could treat her ear problems but it does not seem that any treatment has 
worked.  

 
On Sep 25, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:

> If there were blood clots, then that takes the platelets out of the blood. 
> Clots are made up of platelets, so the platelets are no longer "loose" and 
> the machine can therefore not detect the platelets.
> 
> What was the creatinine and urea? I don't think I would be too worried about 
> the sodium and albumin (though you haven't given me actual numbers) unless it 
> is early renal signs, so if the creatinine and urea are okay, and the sodium 
> and albumin are just a bit out of range, I wouldn't be too concerned.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Corinne Shank
> Sent: September-25-16 12:35 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs
> 
> My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
> yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
> tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup. 
>  When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
> had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
> blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a 
> death sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  
> When she had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole 
> (systematic fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast 
> ear infection.What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), 
> Sodium (high), platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute 
> Limphocy (low).  A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are 
> detected in the sample and CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what 
> this all
  m
> eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
> should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
> medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
> on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
> that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat.   
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

[Amani Oakley]

Robert

I recommend that you have the vet surgically remove the eye. You would be 
surprised at how quickly a cat will adjust to this, and the pain will stop 
immediately. I had this experience with one of my cats, who also had severe 
uveitis when I got her, and there was just nothing that worked, and the eye was 
really bad.

In the meantime, there are two techniques you might want to try to help with 
pain and controlling infection:

1.  Try putting contact lens saline in the eyes. This is soothing and has a 
tiny bit of disinfectant which is obviously safe for the eyes;
2.  Try putting a used tea bag (warm) on the eye. Only use it once before 
discarding it.

Also, ask the vet for buprenorphine in a transdermal cream. This will help 
tremendously with the pain. Get the vet to obtain it from a compounding 
pharmacy. 

Amani

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CHAPEL
Sent: September-25-16 3:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone


I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy (
Yogi) through  I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had something causing 
him pain at least 5 of them..   I put him on high doses of ocular 
Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a severe Uveitis( bilateral but 
worse in the right eye) and the Vet said it would likely have to be given 
chronicallyVERY unfortunately he developed a huge corneal abrasion ( Green 
dye uptake involved almost his etire eye)... Now I've got the poor little guy 
on atropine and two antibiotics three times a day in hopes of keeping the eye 
from rupturing. This on top of his continuing to lose weight despite 
healthy appetite and still with some blood in the stool.   The BIG problem 
in the moment is that I really can't put him back on topical corticosteroids if 
it is going to do this to him. but.when I tried to back off them before 
his Uveitis returned. There is a good chance it will return again. 
Has anyone ever heard of anything that might be used for a cats eye 
inflammation that is not a corticosteroid??   I'll be frank   this 
little guy is using up every single dime and then some of my retirement " 
disposable" income and I simply won't be able to afford him pretty soon if I 
don't figure something out. beyond that... it is just too sad seeing him 
constantly suffering with one malady after another   Winstrol is not going 
to happen unless I go from Vet to Vet and hope I can find one that will work 
with me but I honestly don't hold out a lot of hope for this guy He 
started getting sick very young and it's not gotten any better.  My other 
guy is holding his own and I haven't had him to the vet more than once for an 
upper respiratory infection.   I'm not just going to wait for the little 
guy to pass.  I'm thinking that if the Uveitis returns and there is nothing 
that will control it besides corticosteroids I'm going to let him go. He's 
just always hurting Hasn't been able to be a kitten for more than a few 
weeks since I brought him home  Add to this that my quality of life is 
pretty crappy at this point as I can take very little time away from home   
I'd spend thousands that I don't have if I had any assurance that it would make 
a difference but not just to keep him " functional" until he fades away while 
his life becomes enduring constant medication... being nearly blind 
sleeping and eating and avoiding the advances of his house mate who still wants 
to play His " better" eye does not appear to be very functional which 
leaves him at risk if the other guy decides to jump him.   I sometimes 
separate them when I am out of the house but it appears that he prefers being 
out in the entire house even with the risk of the other guy Figure for the 
time he has I'll let him do as he prefers as long as it's not too 
dangerous..
But back to the original question. any thought or experiences with anti 
Inflammatory medications that can used ocularly that are not 
Corticosteroids...

thanks for any thoughts..
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Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

[Amani Oakley]

Maira

I learned that garlic and onions can destroy red cells in cats. The problem 
with cats is that they have a very different liver than humans and dogs, so 
things that aren’t poisonous to humans and dogs (and rats, and guinea pigs, 
etc.) are poisonous to cats.

I wouldn’t use garlic – either cooked or uncooked – unless you have found some 
credible studies online to support that garlic won’t harm cats.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maira 
Favela
Sent: September-25-16 8:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone


P.s.:  Also, try garlic and apple cider viniger. Make sure you cook the garlic 
though. These products help kill pathogens/antibacterial and help reduce 
inflamation.

On Sep 25, 2016 12:06 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL" 
> wrote:

I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy ( Yogi) 
through  I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had something causing him 
pain at least 5 of them..   I put him on high doses of ocular Prednisolone 
to try to spare his vision after a severe Uveitis( bilateral but worse in the 
right eye) and the Vet said it would likely have to be given 
chronicallyVERY unfortunately he developed a huge corneal abrasion ( Green 
dye uptake involved almost his etire eye)...   Now I've got the poor little guy 
on atropine and two antibiotics three times a day in hopes of keeping the eye 
from rupturing. This on top of his continuing to lose weight despite 
healthy appetite and still with some blood in the stool.   The BIG problem 
in the moment is that I really can't put him back on topical corticosteroids if 
it is going to do this to him. but.when I tried to back off them before 
his Uveitis returned. There is a good chance it will return again. 
Has anyone ever heard of anything that might be used for a cats eye 
inflammation that is not a corticosteroid??   I'll be frank   this 
little guy is using up every single dime and then some of my retirement " 
disposable" income and I simply won't be able to afford him pretty soon if I 
don't figure something out. beyond that... it is just too sad seeing him 
constantly suffering with one malady after another   Winstrol is not going 
to happen unless I go from Vet to Vet and hope I can find one that will work 
with me but  I honestly don't hold out a lot of hope for this guy He 
started getting sick very young and it's not gotten any better.  My other 
guy is holding his own and I haven't had him to the vet more than once for an 
upper respiratory infection.   I'm not just going to wait for the little 
guy to pass.  I'm thinking that if the Uveitis returns and there is nothing 
that will control it besides corticosteroids I'm going to let him go. He's 
just always hurting Hasn't been able to be a kitten for more than a few 
weeks since I brought him home   Add to this that my quality of life is 
pretty crappy at this point as I can take very little time away from home   
I'd spend thousands that I don't have if I had any assurance that it would make 
a difference but not just to keep him " functional" until he fades away while 
his life becomes enduring constant medication... being nearly blind 
sleeping and eating and avoiding the advances of his house mate who still wants 
to play His " better" eye does not appear to be very functional which 
leaves him at risk if the other guy decides to jump him.   I sometimes 
separate them when I am out of the house but it appears that he prefers being 
out in the entire house even with the risk of the other guy Figure for the 
time he has I'll let him do as he prefers as long as it's not too 
dangerous..
But back to the original question. any thought or experiences with anti 
Inflammatory medications that can used ocularly that are not 
Corticosteroids...

thanks for any thoughts..
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining

[Amani Oakley]

Margo

The Interferon wouldn’t have caused red cell or hematocrit changes directly. 
The idea of the interferon is to boost the cat’s immune system to fight the 
FeLV virus. If successful, this would result in an improvement in the 
haematology results, since the poor results are being caused by the virus 
attacking and destroying the cells and bone marrow.

I never saw an improvement at all in the haematology results while Zander was 
on Interferon, though I left him on it for months, and tested his blood work 
weekly. I think that, as we have learned from other participants on this 
chatline, there seems to be more than one strain of FeLV virus, so that may 
well be why some people have a good response to Interferon and others have seen 
none. I just wouldn’t wait, when a cat is doing poorly. If the Interferon 
doesn’t seem to be working, it is time to quickly get to something which might 
help. The interferon doesn’t need to be discontinued – other treatments can be 
tried while the Interferon continues on to hopefully help in the background.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: September-25-16 6:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining




I never had expected the Interferon to cause red cell or hematocrit changes. 
Where can I find information about that?



Thanks,



Margo
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From: Amani Oakley
Sent: Sep 25, 2016 12:25 AM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining


Elizabeth

My experience was that the interferon did absolutely nothing for my Zander. I 
checked his blood work weekly to track what was happening, and even though I 
left him on it for several months (with blood transfusions, to ensure there was 
a chance for it to work), there was no effect at all on the red blood cells or 
haematocrit.

Do not wait if you don’t see improvement. My strong suggestion is to put him 
back on the doxycycline and try again for some Winstrol.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Liz 
McCarty
Sent: September-25-16 12:20 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining


Hey...  Hodor was pretty steady and eating well, good energy... Until 
Wednesday. Since then be seems to not have enough energy to move very far. Not 
eating well, or drinking well. One of his eyes started tearing occasionally. He 
still gets excited about treats and a water bottle we freeze for him that he 
likes to lick. He has been on interferon for 2 weeks... This past week was his 
7 days off. He started back last night. Has anyone had interferon experience 
and seen their cats drop on the week off? Any suggestions? I don't want to lose 
him. We are also giving him prednisone,  Pet Tinic and Dmg.

I don't think the URI cleared before they stopped his doxycycline... Even 
though I expressed concern they said stop for now... I want to start him 
againany thoughts? I don't think his immune system needs this extra stress! 
He was doing so well when he had the doxycycline.

Thank you.

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

[Amani Oakley]

If there were blood clots, then that takes the platelets out of the blood. 
Clots are made up of platelets, so the platelets are no longer "loose" and the 
machine can therefore not detect the platelets.

What was the creatinine and urea? I don't think I would be too worried about 
the sodium and albumin (though you haven't given me actual numbers) unless it 
is early renal signs, so if the creatinine and urea are okay, and the sodium 
and albumin are just a bit out of range, I wouldn't be too concerned.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Corinne Shank
Sent: September-25-16 12:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup.  
When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a death 
sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  When she 
had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole (systematic 
fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast ear infection. 
   What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), Sodium (high), 
platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute Limphocy (low).  
A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are detected in the sample and 
CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what this all m
 eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat. 
 





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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 30

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

Maria et al:  ( please forgive all the blasted question marks that 
appear in my responses...  I don't put them there they just appear  
I'm going to try NOT using dots to separate  thoughts and see if that 
helps.


Thank you for taking the time to respond.  I am fairly up to date on 
natural supplements ( and , honestly, less than impressed with them for 
such serious disorders)  my Kitties have been on immune enhancers and 
other proprietary natural supplements since the day I got them " just in 
case" they offer any assistance They also get Lysine daily: and I'll 
probably add DMG.   My biggest concern is his eyes and finding an 
alternative to corticosteroids that might be able to stave off a return 
of the Uveitis as once it returns I VERY much doubt there are  natural 
supplements that are going to have the immediate effects he will need( 
much less ones that can be administered directly into the eye but. who 
knows- it took a couple of weeks to bring it under control initially 
with the Prednisolone and even at that it was a judgement call on the 
part of myself AND the vet as we both knew the risks of chronic Pred 
administration intra-ocularly but that had to be weighed against the 
certain loss of the eye if the Uveitis were allowed to continue( also 
his intraocular pressure was rising so it was literally just a matter of 
time.  I'd consider removing the eye if it were not for the fact that he 
had it in both eyes and it is nearly certain to come back in the other 
eye as well if it returns. and to be perfectly honest I'm not 
willing to put either him OR myself through that  the vet recommends 
against this severe an operation for him and considering the risks and 
the expense for a more than uncertain outcome and a life of near or 
total blindness( IF he survives the operation) on TOP of his other ills
now and in the future.   It's just not a good life for either of us.    
Hoping for miracles still ( or even some good luck for my little guy who 
appears to have been born under a bad sign but not banking on them... I 
read the posts here from folks whose Kitties have turned up positive 
after several years and wish that this kind of time had been gifted to 
my little guy  We have a colony of FeLV cats now at the shelter 
where I volunteer and not a one of them have been sick a day since we 
got them in beyond the URI's that affected the rest of the shelter cats 
  I'm hoping the youngest two,at least, might test negative post 6 
months... absolute prettiest and sweetest cats we have at the 
shelter they should be in a home where they can be appreciated   
but I digress   thanks for your thoughts..
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 17:29:51 -0700
From: Maira Favela To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

O.k.. Then, opt for natural, bio degradable cleaning products that 
will do

the same thing, while keeping your cats safe. ?

On Sep 25, 2016 4:44 PM, "kat"  wrote:

Just a caveat on cleaning - do not use lysol or pine-sol - they 
contain

phenol which can be toxic to cats & birds.
Also, stay away from essential oils for cat & birds.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

*Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 6:08 PM
*From:* "Maira Favela" *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone

Try researching natural suppliments or remedies on line. Also, have 
you
considered seeing a holistic vetnerian? I have not been to one, but i 
have
read and heard about them in the internet. Try also using curcumin 
and any
food/vitamin supplyment that might help with inflamation. Try to keep 
your
home and items clean/sanitary to avoid further infections, even items 
used
for feeding/drinking. Bleach/lysol/ and disinfecting wipe will healp, 
and
they don't need the expensive brand either. Also, try to turn on the 
shower

head on hot water to creat steam, as this help him open up his nasal
passages. Try also feeding him good fatty acids and oils, like oil 
based

gel vitamin suppliments-preferably for kittens, even if the cat is an
adult. 

Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

[Maira Favela]

And about essential oils-the purpose of using oils and fats is to give them
to you cat until they gain weight- they are not ment to be used long term.


On Sep 25, 2016 4:44 PM, "kat"  wrote:

> Just a caveat on cleaning - do not use lysol or pine-sol - they contain
> phenol which can be toxic to cats & birds.
> Also, stay away from essential oils for cat & birds.
>
> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 6:08 PM
> *From:* "Maira Favela" 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone
>
> Try researching natural suppliments or remedies on line. Also, have you
> considered seeing a holistic vetnerian? I have not been to one, but i have
> read and heard about them in the internet. Try also using curcumin and any
> food/vitamin supplyment that might help with inflamation. Try to keep your
> home and items clean/sanitary to avoid further infections, even items used
> for feeding/drinking. Bleach/lysol/ and disinfecting wipe will healp, and
> they don't need the expensive brand either. Also, try to turn on the shower
> head on hot water to creat steam, as this help him open up his nasal
> passages. Try also feeding him good fatty acids and oils, like oil based
> gel vitamin suppliments-preferably for kittens, even if the cat is an
> adult. Try also feeding him kitten food and milk, since these have more
> calories and nutriens than adult food-this might help him gain weight.
> Also, incorporate more canned food, and water comsumeption. This increase
> feedings. Hopefully, this might help him gain weight and heal
> better/sooner. Good luck. And if you have faith, pray, pray for your little
> fighter! Stay strong. Have hope. 
>
> On Sep 25, 2016 12:06 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL"  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy (
>> Yogi) through  I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had something
>> causing him pain at least 5 of them..   I put him on high doses of
>> ocular Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a severe Uveitis(
>> bilateral but worse in the right eye) and the Vet said it would likely have
>> to be given chronicallyVERY unfortunately he developed a huge corneal
>> abrasion ( Green dye uptake involved almost his etire eye)...   Now I've
>> got the poor little guy on atropine and two antibiotics three times a day
>> in hopes of keeping the eye from rupturing. This on top of his
>> continuing to lose weight despite healthy appetite and still with some
>> blood in the stool.   The BIG problem in the moment is that I really
>> can't put him back on topical corticosteroids if it is going to do this to
>> him. but.when I tried to back off them before his Uveitis
>> returned. There is a good chance it will return again. Has
>> anyone ever heard of anything that might be used for a cats eye
>> inflammation that is not a corticosteroid??   I'll be frank   this
>> little guy is using up every single dime and then some of my retirement "
>> disposable" income and I simply won't be able to afford him pretty soon if
>> I don't figure something out. beyond that... it is just too sad seeing
>> him constantly suffering with one malady after another   Winstrol is
>> not going to happen unless I go from Vet to Vet and hope I can find one
>> that will work with me but  I honestly don't hold out a lot of hope for
>> this guy He started getting sick very young and it's not gotten any
>> better.  My other guy is holding his own and I haven't had him to the
>> vet more than once for an upper respiratory infection.   I'm not just
>> going to wait for the little guy to pass.  I'm thinking that if the
>> Uveitis returns and there is nothing that will control it besides
>> corticosteroids I'm going to let him go. He's just always hurting
>> Hasn't been able to be a kitten for more than a few weeks since I brought
>> him home   Add to this that my quality of life is pretty crappy at this
>> point as I can take very little time away from home   I'd spend
>> thousands that I don't have if I had any assurance that it would make a
>> difference but not just to keep him " functional" until he fades away while
>> his life becomes enduring constant medication... being nearly blind
>> sleeping and eating and avoiding the advances of his house mate who still
>> wants to play His " better" eye does not appear to be very functional
>> which leaves him at risk if the other guy decides to jump him.   I
>> sometimes separate them when I am out of the house but it appears that he
>> prefers being out in the entire house even with the risk of the other
>> guy Figure for the time he has I'll let him do as he prefers as long as
>> it's not too dangerous..
>> But back to the original question. any thought or experiences with
>> anti Inflammatory 

Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

[Maira Favela]

O.k.. Then, opt for natural, bio degradable cleaning products that will do
the same thing, while keeping your cats safe. 

On Sep 25, 2016 4:44 PM, "kat"  wrote:

> Just a caveat on cleaning - do not use lysol or pine-sol - they contain
> phenol which can be toxic to cats & birds.
> Also, stay away from essential oils for cat & birds.
>
> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 6:08 PM
> *From:* "Maira Favela" 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone
>
> Try researching natural suppliments or remedies on line. Also, have you
> considered seeing a holistic vetnerian? I have not been to one, but i have
> read and heard about them in the internet. Try also using curcumin and any
> food/vitamin supplyment that might help with inflamation. Try to keep your
> home and items clean/sanitary to avoid further infections, even items used
> for feeding/drinking. Bleach/lysol/ and disinfecting wipe will healp, and
> they don't need the expensive brand either. Also, try to turn on the shower
> head on hot water to creat steam, as this help him open up his nasal
> passages. Try also feeding him good fatty acids and oils, like oil based
> gel vitamin suppliments-preferably for kittens, even if the cat is an
> adult. Try also feeding him kitten food and milk, since these have more
> calories and nutriens than adult food-this might help him gain weight.
> Also, incorporate more canned food, and water comsumeption. This increase
> feedings. Hopefully, this might help him gain weight and heal
> better/sooner. Good luck. And if you have faith, pray, pray for your little
> fighter! Stay strong. Have hope. 
>
> On Sep 25, 2016 12:06 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL"  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy (
>> Yogi) through  I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had something
>> causing him pain at least 5 of them..   I put him on high doses of
>> ocular Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a severe Uveitis(
>> bilateral but worse in the right eye) and the Vet said it would likely have
>> to be given chronicallyVERY unfortunately he developed a huge corneal
>> abrasion ( Green dye uptake involved almost his etire eye)...   Now I've
>> got the poor little guy on atropine and two antibiotics three times a day
>> in hopes of keeping the eye from rupturing. This on top of his
>> continuing to lose weight despite healthy appetite and still with some
>> blood in the stool.   The BIG problem in the moment is that I really
>> can't put him back on topical corticosteroids if it is going to do this to
>> him. but.when I tried to back off them before his Uveitis
>> returned. There is a good chance it will return again. Has
>> anyone ever heard of anything that might be used for a cats eye
>> inflammation that is not a corticosteroid??   I'll be frank   this
>> little guy is using up every single dime and then some of my retirement "
>> disposable" income and I simply won't be able to afford him pretty soon if
>> I don't figure something out. beyond that... it is just too sad seeing
>> him constantly suffering with one malady after another   Winstrol is
>> not going to happen unless I go from Vet to Vet and hope I can find one
>> that will work with me but  I honestly don't hold out a lot of hope for
>> this guy He started getting sick very young and it's not gotten any
>> better.  My other guy is holding his own and I haven't had him to the
>> vet more than once for an upper respiratory infection.   I'm not just
>> going to wait for the little guy to pass.  I'm thinking that if the
>> Uveitis returns and there is nothing that will control it besides
>> corticosteroids I'm going to let him go. He's just always hurting
>> Hasn't been able to be a kitten for more than a few weeks since I brought
>> him home   Add to this that my quality of life is pretty crappy at this
>> point as I can take very little time away from home   I'd spend
>> thousands that I don't have if I had any assurance that it would make a
>> difference but not just to keep him " functional" until he fades away while
>> his life becomes enduring constant medication... being nearly blind
>> sleeping and eating and avoiding the advances of his house mate who still
>> wants to play His " better" eye does not appear to be very functional
>> which leaves him at risk if the other guy decides to jump him.   I
>> sometimes separate them when I am out of the house but it appears that he
>> prefers being out in the entire house even with the risk of the other
>> guy Figure for the time he has I'll let him do as he prefers as long as
>> it's not too dangerous..
>> But back to the original question. any thought or experiences with
>> anti Inflammatory medications that can used ocularly 

Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

[Maira Favela]

P.s.:  Also, try garlic and apple cider viniger. Make sure you cook the
garlic though. These products help kill pathogens/antibacterial and help
reduce inflamation.

On Sep 25, 2016 12:06 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL"  wrote:

>
> I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy ( Yogi)
> through  I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had something causing
> him pain at least 5 of them..   I put him on high doses of ocular
> Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a severe Uveitis( bilateral
> but worse in the right eye) and the Vet said it would likely have to be
> given chronicallyVERY unfortunately he developed a huge corneal
> abrasion ( Green dye uptake involved almost his etire eye)...   Now I've
> got the poor little guy on atropine and two antibiotics three times a day
> in hopes of keeping the eye from rupturing. This on top of his
> continuing to lose weight despite healthy appetite and still with some
> blood in the stool.   The BIG problem in the moment is that I really
> can't put him back on topical corticosteroids if it is going to do this to
> him. but.when I tried to back off them before his Uveitis
> returned. There is a good chance it will return again. Has
> anyone ever heard of anything that might be used for a cats eye
> inflammation that is not a corticosteroid??   I'll be frank   this
> little guy is using up every single dime and then some of my retirement "
> disposable" income and I simply won't be able to afford him pretty soon if
> I don't figure something out. beyond that... it is just too sad seeing
> him constantly suffering with one malady after another   Winstrol is
> not going to happen unless I go from Vet to Vet and hope I can find one
> that will work with me but  I honestly don't hold out a lot of hope for
> this guy He started getting sick very young and it's not gotten any
> better.  My other guy is holding his own and I haven't had him to the
> vet more than once for an upper respiratory infection.   I'm not just
> going to wait for the little guy to pass.  I'm thinking that if the
> Uveitis returns and there is nothing that will control it besides
> corticosteroids I'm going to let him go. He's just always hurting
> Hasn't been able to be a kitten for more than a few weeks since I brought
> him home   Add to this that my quality of life is pretty crappy at this
> point as I can take very little time away from home   I'd spend
> thousands that I don't have if I had any assurance that it would make a
> difference but not just to keep him " functional" until he fades away while
> his life becomes enduring constant medication... being nearly blind
> sleeping and eating and avoiding the advances of his house mate who still
> wants to play His " better" eye does not appear to be very functional
> which leaves him at risk if the other guy decides to jump him.   I
> sometimes separate them when I am out of the house but it appears that he
> prefers being out in the entire house even with the risk of the other
> guy Figure for the time he has I'll let him do as he prefers as long as
> it's not too dangerous..
> But back to the original question. any thought or experiences with
> anti Inflammatory medications that can used ocularly that are not
> Corticosteroids...
>
> thanks for any thoughts..
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 01:00 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> wrote:
>
> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to
>> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>1. Re: Hodor Declining (Sandy)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 16:39:49 + (UTC)
>> From: Sandy To: Margo , felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
>> Message-ID:
>> <1801968575.6383755.1474821589502.javamail.zim...@comcast.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>>
>> listen to Amani!! Sandy W - Original Message -
>>
>> From: "Margo"  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September
>> 25, 2016 6:58:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I never had expected the Interferon to cause red cell or hematocrit
>> changes. Where can I find information about that?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Margo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Amani Oakley Sent: Sep 25, 2016 12:25 AM
>> 

Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

[kat]

Just a caveat on cleaning - do not use lysol or pine-sol - they contain phenol which can be toxic to cats & birds.

Also, stay away from essential oils for cat & birds.

 

Kat (Mew Jersey)

 

Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 6:08 PM
From: "Maira Favela" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone


Try researching natural suppliments or remedies on line. Also, have you considered seeing a holistic vetnerian? I have not been to one, but i have read and heard about them in the internet. Try also using curcumin and any food/vitamin supplyment that might help with inflamation. Try to keep your home and items clean/sanitary to avoid further infections, even items used for feeding/drinking. Bleach/lysol/ and disinfecting wipe will healp, and they don't need the expensive brand either. Also, try to turn on the shower head on hot water to creat steam, as this help him open up his nasal passages. Try also feeding him good fatty acids and oils, like oil based gel vitamin suppliments-preferably for kittens, even if the cat is an adult. Try also feeding him kitten food and milk, since these have more calories and nutriens than adult food-this might help him gain weight. Also, incorporate more canned food, and water comsumeption. This increase feedings. Hopefully, this might help him gain weight and heal better/sooner. Good luck. And if you have faith, pray, pray for your little fighter! Stay strong. Have hope. 

 
On Sep 25, 2016 12:06 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL"  wrote:


I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy ( Yogi) through  I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had something causing him pain at least 5 of them..   I put him on high doses of ocular Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a severe Uveitis( bilateral but worse in the right eye) and the Vet said it would likely have to be given chronicallyVERY unfortunately he developed a huge corneal abrasion ( Green dye uptake involved almost his etire eye)...   Now I've got the poor little guy on atropine and two antibiotics three times a day in hopes of keeping the eye from rupturing. This on top of his continuing to lose weight despite healthy appetite and still with some blood in the stool.   The BIG problem in the moment is that I really can't put him back on topical corticosteroids if it is going to do this to him. but.when I tried to back off them before his Uveitis returned. There is a good chance it will return again. Has anyone ever heard of anything that might be used for a cats eye inflammation that is not a corticosteroid??   I'll be frank   this little guy is using up every single dime and then some of my retirement " disposable" income and I simply won't be able to afford him pretty soon if I don't figure something out. beyond that... it is just too sad seeing him constantly suffering with one malady after another   Winstrol is not going to happen unless I go from Vet to Vet and hope I can find one that will work with me but  I honestly don't hold out a lot of hope for this guy He started getting sick very young and it's not gotten any better.  My other guy is holding his own and I haven't had him to the vet more than once for an upper respiratory infection.   I'm not just going to wait for the little guy to pass.  I'm thinking that if the Uveitis returns and there is nothing that will control it besides corticosteroids I'm going to let him go. He's just always hurting Hasn't been able to be a kitten for more than a few weeks since I brought him home   Add to this that my quality of life is pretty crappy at this point as I can take very little time away from home   I'd spend thousands that I don't have if I had any assurance that it would make a difference but not just to keep him " functional" until he fades away while his life becomes enduring constant medication... being nearly blind sleeping and eating and avoiding the advances of his house mate who still wants to play His " better" eye does not appear to be very functional which leaves him at risk if the other guy decides to jump him.   I sometimes separate them when I am out of the house but it appears that he prefers being out in the entire house even with the risk of the other guy Figure for the time he has I'll let him do as he prefers as long as it's not too dangerous..
But back to the original question. any thought or experiences with anti Inflammatory medications that can used ocularly that are not Corticosteroids...

thanks for any thoughts..
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 01:00 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote:
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

[Maira Favela]

Try researching natural suppliments or remedies on line. Also, have you
considered seeing a holistic vetnerian? I have not been to one, but i have
read and heard about them in the internet. Try also using curcumin and any
food/vitamin supplyment that might help with inflamation. Try to keep your
home and items clean/sanitary to avoid further infections, even items used
for feeding/drinking. Bleach/lysol/ and disinfecting wipe will healp, and
they don't need the expensive brand either. Also, try to turn on the shower
head on hot water to creat steam, as this help him open up his nasal
passages. Try also feeding him good fatty acids and oils, like oil based
gel vitamin suppliments-preferably for kittens, even if the cat is an
adult. Try also feeding him kitten food and milk, since these have more
calories and nutriens than adult food-this might help him gain weight.
Also, incorporate more canned food, and water comsumeption. This increase
feedings. Hopefully, this might help him gain weight and heal
better/sooner. Good luck. And if you have faith, pray, pray for your little
fighter! Stay strong. Have hope. 

On Sep 25, 2016 12:06 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL"  wrote:

>
> I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy ( Yogi)
> through  I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had something causing
> him pain at least 5 of them..   I put him on high doses of ocular
> Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a severe Uveitis( bilateral
> but worse in the right eye) and the Vet said it would likely have to be
> given chronicallyVERY unfortunately he developed a huge corneal
> abrasion ( Green dye uptake involved almost his etire eye)...   Now I've
> got the poor little guy on atropine and two antibiotics three times a day
> in hopes of keeping the eye from rupturing. This on top of his
> continuing to lose weight despite healthy appetite and still with some
> blood in the stool.   The BIG problem in the moment is that I really
> can't put him back on topical corticosteroids if it is going to do this to
> him. but.when I tried to back off them before his Uveitis
> returned. There is a good chance it will return again. Has
> anyone ever heard of anything that might be used for a cats eye
> inflammation that is not a corticosteroid??   I'll be frank   this
> little guy is using up every single dime and then some of my retirement "
> disposable" income and I simply won't be able to afford him pretty soon if
> I don't figure something out. beyond that... it is just too sad seeing
> him constantly suffering with one malady after another   Winstrol is
> not going to happen unless I go from Vet to Vet and hope I can find one
> that will work with me but  I honestly don't hold out a lot of hope for
> this guy He started getting sick very young and it's not gotten any
> better.  My other guy is holding his own and I haven't had him to the
> vet more than once for an upper respiratory infection.   I'm not just
> going to wait for the little guy to pass.  I'm thinking that if the
> Uveitis returns and there is nothing that will control it besides
> corticosteroids I'm going to let him go. He's just always hurting
> Hasn't been able to be a kitten for more than a few weeks since I brought
> him home   Add to this that my quality of life is pretty crappy at this
> point as I can take very little time away from home   I'd spend
> thousands that I don't have if I had any assurance that it would make a
> difference but not just to keep him " functional" until he fades away while
> his life becomes enduring constant medication... being nearly blind
> sleeping and eating and avoiding the advances of his house mate who still
> wants to play His " better" eye does not appear to be very functional
> which leaves him at risk if the other guy decides to jump him.   I
> sometimes separate them when I am out of the house but it appears that he
> prefers being out in the entire house even with the risk of the other
> guy Figure for the time he has I'll let him do as he prefers as long as
> it's not too dangerous..
> But back to the original question. any thought or experiences with
> anti Inflammatory medications that can used ocularly that are not
> Corticosteroids...
>
> thanks for any thoughts..
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 01:00 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> wrote:
>
> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to
>> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>
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>>
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>> felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
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>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more 

Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy ( 
Yogi) through  I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had something 
causing him pain at least 5 of them..   I put him on high doses of 
ocular Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a severe Uveitis( 
bilateral but worse in the right eye) and the Vet said it would likely 
have to be given chronicallyVERY unfortunately he developed a huge 
corneal abrasion ( Green dye uptake involved almost his etire eye)...   
Now I've got the poor little guy on atropine and two antibiotics three 
times a day in hopes of keeping the eye from rupturing. This on top 
of his continuing to lose weight despite healthy appetite and still with 
some blood in the stool.   The BIG problem in the moment is that I 
really can't put him back on topical corticosteroids if it is going to 
do this to him. but.when I tried to back off them before his 
Uveitis returned. There is a good chance it will return 
again. Has anyone ever heard of anything that might be used for 
a cats eye inflammation that is not a corticosteroid??   I'll be 
frank   this little guy is using up every single dime and then some 
of my retirement " disposable" income and I simply won't be able to 
afford him pretty soon if I don't figure something out. beyond 
that... it is just too sad seeing him constantly suffering with one 
malady after another   Winstrol is not going to happen unless I go 
from Vet to Vet and hope I can find one that will work with me but  
I honestly don't hold out a lot of hope for this guy He started 
getting sick very young and it's not gotten any better.  My other 
guy is holding his own and I haven't had him to the vet more than once 
for an upper respiratory infection.   I'm not just going to wait for 
the little guy to pass.  I'm thinking that if the Uveitis returns 
and there is nothing that will control it besides corticosteroids I'm 
going to let him go. He's just always hurting Hasn't been able 
to be a kitten for more than a few weeks since I brought him home   
Add to this that my quality of life is pretty crappy at this point as I 
can take very little time away from home   I'd spend thousands that 
I don't have if I had any assurance that it would make a difference but 
not just to keep him " functional" until he fades away while his life 
becomes enduring constant medication... being nearly blind sleeping 
and eating and avoiding the advances of his house mate who still wants 
to play His " better" eye does not appear to be very functional 
which leaves him at risk if the other guy decides to jump him.   I 
sometimes separate them when I am out of the house but it appears that 
he prefers being out in the entire house even with the risk of the other 
guy Figure for the time he has I'll let him do as he prefers as long 
as it's not too dangerous..
But back to the original question. any thought or experiences with 
anti Inflammatory medications that can used ocularly that are not 
Corticosteroids...


thanks for any thoughts..
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 01:00 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org 
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   1. Re: Hodor Declining (Sandy)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 16:39:49 + (UTC)
From: Sandy To: Margo , felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"


listen to Amani!! Sandy W - Original Message -

From: "Margo"  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 
25, 2016 6:58:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining





I never had expected the Interferon to cause red cell or hematocrit 
changes. Where can I find information about that?



Thanks,


Margo




-Original Message- From: Amani Oakley Sent: Sep 25, 2016 12:25 
AM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor 
Declining



Elizabeth


My experience was that the interferon did absolutely nothing for my 
Zander. I checked his blood work weekly to track what was happening, 
and even though I left him on it for several months (with blood 
transfusions, to ensure there was a chance for it to work), there was 
no effect at all on the red blood cells or haematocrit.



Do not 

Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining

[Sandy]

listen to Amani!! 
Sandy W 
- Original Message -

From: "Margo"  
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:58:34 AM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining 





I never had expected the Interferon to cause red cell or hematocrit changes. 
Where can I find information about that? 



Thanks, 



Margo 





-Original Message- 
From: Amani Oakley 
Sent: Sep 25, 2016 12:25 AM 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining 



Elizabeth 



My experience was that the interferon did absolutely nothing for my Zander. I 
checked his blood work weekly to track what was happening, and even though I 
left him on it for several months (with blood transfusions, to ensure there was 
a chance for it to work), there was no effect at all on the red blood cells or 
haematocrit. 



Do not wait if you don’t see improvement. My strong suggestion is to put him 
back on the doxycycline and try again for some Winstrol. 



Amani 



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Liz 
McCarty 
Sent: September-25-16 12:20 AM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining 




Hey... Hodor was pretty steady and eating well, good energy... Until Wednesday. 
Since then be seems to not have enough energy to move very far. Not eating 
well, or drinking well. One of his eyes started tearing occasionally. He still 
gets excited about treats and a water bottle we freeze for him that he likes to 
lick. He has been on interferon for 2 weeks... This past week was his 7 days 
off. He started back last night. Has anyone had interferon experience and seen 
their cats drop on the week off? Any suggestions? I don't want to lose him. We 
are also giving him prednisone, Pet Tinic and Dmg. 

I don't think the URI cleared before they stopped his doxycycline... Even 
though I expressed concern they said stop for now... I want to start him 
againany thoughts? I don't think his immune system needs this extra stress! 
He was doing so well when he had the doxycycline. 

Thank you. 

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 




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[Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

[Corinne Shank]

My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup.  
When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a death 
sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  When she 
had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole (systematic 
fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast ear infection. 
   What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), Sodium (high), 
platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute Limphocy (low).  
A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are detected in the sample and 
CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what this all m
 eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat. 
 





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Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining

[Margo]

 
I never had expected the Interferon to cause red cell or hematocrit changes. Where can I find information about that?
 
Thanks,
 
Margo
-Original Message- From: Amani Oakley Sent: Sep 25, 2016 12:25 AM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining 



Elizabeth
 
My experience was that the interferon did absolutely nothing for my Zander. I checked his blood work weekly to track what was happening, and even though I left him on it for several months (with blood transfusions, to ensure there was a chance for it to work), there was no effect at all on the red blood cells or haematocrit.
 
Do not wait if you don’t see improvement. My strong suggestion is to put him back on the doxycycline and try again for some Winstrol.
 
Amani
 
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Liz McCartySent: September-25-16 12:20 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
 
Hey...  Hodor was pretty steady and eating well, good energy... Until Wednesday. Since then be seems to not have enough energy to move very far. Not eating well, or drinking well. One of his eyes started tearing occasionally. He still gets excited about treats and a water bottle we freeze for him that he likes to lick. He has been on interferon for 2 weeks... This past week was his 7 days off. He started back last night. Has anyone had interferon experience and seen their cats drop on the week off? Any suggestions? I don't want to lose him. We are also giving him prednisone,  Pet Tinic and Dmg. 
I don't think the URI cleared before they stopped his doxycycline... Even though I expressed concern they said stop for now... I want to start him againany thoughts? I don't think his immune system needs this extra stress! He was doing so well when he had the doxycycline. 
Thank you. 
Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438

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Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining

[Margo]

Hi Liz,
 
   What was the reason for the doxy, and how long was he on it?
 
   I've seen one of my boys become a bit "off" n the non-interferon weeks, but was never able to really pinpoint just that. 
 
   Is Hodor getting sub-q B-12? Recently, I've seen that he sometimes seems to decline if I miss his weekly dose.
   Hopefully he'll bounce back :)
-Original Message- From: Liz McCarty Sent: Sep 25, 2016 12:19 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining 
Hey...  Hodor was pretty steady and eating well, good energy... Until Wednesday. Since then be seems to not have enough energy to move very far. Not eating well, or drinking well. One of his eyes started tearing occasionally. He still gets excited about treats and a water bottle we freeze for him that he likes to lick. He has been on interferon for 2 weeks... This past week was his 7 days off. He started back last night. Has anyone had interferon experience and seen their cats drop on the week off? Any suggestions? I don't want to lose him. We are also giving him prednisone,  Pet Tinic and Dmg. 
I don't think the URI cleared before they stopped his doxycycline... Even though I expressed concern they said stop for now... I want to start him againany thoughts? I don't think his immune system needs this extra stress! He was doing so well when he had the doxycycline. 
Thank you. 
Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438

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