At 8:14 PM 09/22/02, David W. Fenton wrote:
PageDown and PageUp have moved the cursor since long before there was
such a thing as a graphical user interface. Perhaps it's the Apple
mouse religion that leaves the Mac with such an illogical decoupling
of cursor movement keys from the cursor,
At 8:08 PM 09/22/02, David W. Fenton wrote:
Why would anyone *not* normally use pageup/pagedown to navigate
within a text box? Hello?
Hello, nice to meet you. It's a big world out there, and not everyone
operates the same as you do.
There should also be search and replace functions, so you
At 8:06 PM 09/22/02, David W. Fenton wrote:
I had a score that printed out correctly, but I made the mistake of
looking at the source text in EDIT LYRICS and saw a lot of excess
hyphens, many of them at the *beginning* of syllables. So I was
deleting a few and seeing what happened. The first few
Having unearthed this (small) can of worms I feel
compelled to step in again with the thought that even if logic
would have the phrase to signify : any store built from bricks
and mortar, the compound phrase should indeed be 'a brick-and-mortar'
store, leaving the reader to figure out from the
Yes. Don't buy new keyboards. Older keyboards had two features which make
them more attractive to me (and you can get adapters for the cable
connection).
(1) They had a circuit board which was not made out of flimsy plastic. It
was stiff and allowed the manufacturer to use key mechanisms, in
At 8:06 PM -0400 9/22/02, David W. Fenton wrote:
This is straight-out arranging, happening while I do the inputting.
Yes, I do the lyrics last, naturally.
Hmm, doing the lyrics last might be an example of changing one's work
habits to suit the computer. Often when I am composing to a given
At 8:08 PM -0400 9/22/02, David W. Fenton wrote:
But what happens if you introduce some small inconsistency, like an
extra space or something? How can Finale know what to do with that?
Finale knows perfectly well what to do with a space; it jumps to the
next syllable. Two spaces, two
At 8:18 AM 09/21/02, Bernard Savoie wrote:
I second Linda's comment. I've also been a long-time user [...]
But once I
understood the way the lyrics tool works I have seldom had any problems,
[...] But you have to be aware of the pitfalls which you can easily fall
into.
Actually, I
At 09/22/2002 07:27 PM, Mark D. Lew wrote:
Before this discussion I hadn't realized that so many other users are
accustomed to entering lyrics in a way so completely different from mine.
As an occasional user, but often using lyrics:
I had a lot of problems using type in score. So I read
At 09/22/2002 11:17 PM, Philip Aker wrote:
That depends. Text editors like CodeWarrior, BBEdit, and Alpha don't do
that by default because they observe some long standing conventions
about document navigation keys. You can change the default bindings
though. My Text Editor plugin uses these
At 09/22/2002 07:56 PM, Linda Worsley wrote:
Oops.. I thought you meant the scroll bar. But the same thing
applies. The page down key is for moving the PAGE down. Not the
cursor. The down arrow moves the cursor AND the page down on my mac.
Says who?
It has never worked that way in DOS or
At 09:59 PM 9/23/02 +1000, One of the McKays wrote:
I have been using Finale since 1995, but have never met a person who uses
the program *at home.* I have met a few people who use it in schools,
though.
I'm an independent composer who works at home, in my home office. I've
worked in my home
Robert Patterson wrote:
I actually prefer the mirrored lyrics approach, but it requires
forethought and discipline. Generally, unless you are truly writing
a multiverse piece, such as a hymn, you should put all your lyrics
in a single verse. This avoids the baseline headaches that others
have
On Monday, Sep 23, 2002, at 02:02 US/Pacific, Mark D. Lew wrote:
If you are using a reasonably current MacOS you should check out Text
Editor plugin.
I don't know what counts as reasonably current, but I'll bet it's
not me. It's rare that I find anyone using an older OS than mine.
(I'm
On Monday, Sep 23, 2002, at 04:21 US/Pacific, Phil Daley wrote:
At 09/22/2002 07:56 PM, Linda Worsley wrote:
Oops.. I thought you meant the scroll bar. But the same thing
applies. The page down key is for moving the PAGE down. Not the
cursor. The down arrow moves the cursor AND the page
I use Finale at home - paid for it myself with real live money, nobody offered a penny to soften the blow.
I can also confirm that as of this moment I am also alive, struggling, but alive.
I also like Finale - it's better than the other programs I looked at and the instruction manual tastes
(Cross-posted in part to the Orchestralist and Community Music List.)
Played a very successful Pops concert yesterday, and wanted to pass on
comments on engraving and layout issues on specific pieces.
West Side Story, I don't have the arranger but it's the standard
symphonic medley
(Windows 2002)
I have added an ossia measure to an extracted part. I am now at a loss to
figure out how to change the contents of the ossia measure (to provide a
simpler passage). I can find no way to access the ossia measure itself and
if I change the contents of the original measure, it
Long before I came to work here at Coda, I used Finale 97 at home (windows),
and while I was in college I maintained a mac lab with Finale 3.2.1 and 3.5
(and taught many a fellow student the joys of Finale)
-Original Message-
From: Harold Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday,
David,
My wife will tell you that I use Finale at home (work is work, no matter
where you do it...) :-)
Whether for creating tests and worksheets, or doing moonlighting
orchestrations, or working on my own compositions, or something for church,
or my wife needing something for her elementary
Sean Newhouse wrote:
possible to get different staves to have different
dynamics in playback, using the same MIDI channel/instrument.
I think the same technique applies to all Finale versions (or at least
those since Finale 3.x.) Basically, you create two different instruments
but assign
On 22 Sep 2002 at 21:37, Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 09:30 PM 09/22/02, David W. Fenton wrote:
For whatever reason, I just suddenly started having problems with
articulations.
The behavior is that when I click on a note when the Articulation
tool is selected, it applies an articulation,
On 23 Sep 2002 at 0:44, Mark D. Lew wrote:
At 8:06 PM 09/22/02, David W. Fenton wrote:
But I feel *very* uncomfortable with click assigning the lyrics. One
problem is the size of the dialog and the fact that it is tough to
tell where you are in repetitive text. But I discovered another
On 23 Sep 2002 at 10:54, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote:
Yes. Don't buy new keyboards. Older keyboards had two features which make
them more attractive to me (and you can get adapters for the cable
connection).
I have lots of old keyboards. Unfortunately, they are all bad -- two
have keys that
On 23 Sep 2002 at 1:02, Mark D. Lew wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by wasting good keys, though. . . .
That the Mac gets the same functionality by using a two-key
combination should tell you everything you need to know.
--
David W. Fenton |
At 2:46 PM -0400 9/23/02, Tim Thompson wrote:
Of course, now with laptops, I use it a lot of other places as well.
Home is where the heart (work, physical presence of Finale person)
is, of course. I have used mine on airplanes, on trains, in hotel
rooms, etc. etc. But as a homeless person,
At 3:48 PM -0400 9/23/02, David W. Fenton wrote:
Try this:
Create a new document, and input 4 quarter notes.
With TYPE IN SCORE, put in Hal-le-lu-jah as the lyrics
Now, go to the le syllable, and change it to le,.
Then change the lu to Deutsch- and the jah to land.
You'll see that you have
I expressed myself poorly in my email, and have been misunderstood.
What I meant was this:
Other than on the net, I have never met a person who uses Finale, though I
admit I have met one or two people who use it in high schools.
I have met one or two people who use Sibelius, but I also think
I bought Finale for our High school's main recording computer DAW a
couple of years ago and it basically sat there, only used by myself
(as I slowly converted from the notating using Emagic's Logic).
Then this year I woke up and made all my elective students (years
9-12) download Finale
I ran the word extension plug-in in a 2003 file, on a Mac G4, OS 8.6. It
works great...EXCEPT...
...every once in a while, the plug in skips a couple of spots throughout
the score where a word extension should appear. Anyone else have this
happen? Any fixes, or explanations?
Thanks in advance.
I should have been more precise. Where I wrote
snip
If one deletes the same syllables in "edit
lyrics" mode, OTH, all of
the syllables in the balance of the string visible in the "edit lyrics"
window
get shifted to the left two places, even when this takes the first
syllable of
one staff and
perhaps through a plug-in, to any notation element (expression, shape,
articulation, lyric syllable, c,) and identify all of the places from
which it is linked to. I designed a custom notation element, and may
need to go back and change selected instances to something different
Or has this
is there any way to change the default thickness of the line on the 1/2 and whole rest
when it appears above the staff [in 2001d, or in 2003]? it seems to be calculated to
match the staff line thicknesses, but would make more sense [to me at least] if it
were calculated according to ledger
At 7:28 AM 09/23/02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
[answering Christopher BJ Smith]
That's one more reason why I still compose and arrange with pencil
and paper, and only go to Finale afterwards to make it look nice.
You're right. I realize that I'm uncomfortable composing music with text in
Going off an a tangent, may I ask: What good reason is there to use the
ossia tool instead of a separate staff?
I haven't tried the ossia tool in at least three years. When I did try it,
I remember concluding that it was very clumsy and many things I wanted to
do were either difficult or
At 6:16 AM 09/23/02, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:
Finale knows perfectly well what to do with a space; it jumps to the
next syllable. Two spaces, two syllables. Some people add the extra
spaces in to account for melismas, so that they can opt-click (or
alt-click) assign and not have to shift
At 12:00 PM 09/23/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You have got to be kidding! After all of the verbage on this subject and you
still draw this conclusion? Deleting almost anything in type-in-score is not
at all safer or recommended. God help us if David Fenton follows *this*
advice and we have to
At 3:48 PM 09/23/02, David W. Fenton wrote:
No. I mean the AUTO UPDATE checkbox in the click assignment dialog. I
assume it's intended to update the score in the background, but it is
not reliable. It seems to work for the first syllable of a measure,
and then the lyrics go blank for the rest of
At 1:10 PM 09/23/02, John Howell wrote:
Played a very successful Pops concert yesterday, and wanted to pass on
comments on engraving and layout issues on specific pieces.
Thanks for the report, John. I find these things useful.
Refresh my memory on this: Let's suppose that I'm called upon to
At 7:49 PM 09/23/02, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
If one deletes the same syllables in edit lyrics mode,
OTH, all of the syllables in the balance of the string visible in the
edit lyrics
window
get shifted to the left by the same number of places as the number of syllables
deleted, even when this
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