David == David R Morrison d...@finkproject.org writes:
David What about perl? Should we bring perl 5.8.8 forward, or leave it
David out?
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters/2008/11/msg141328.html
5.8.x is EOLed already. 2.5 years ago.
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$ fink self-update
[normal]
$ fink update-all
Information about 4003 packages read in 0 seconds.
Can't resolve dependency fink (= 0.28.0) for package
gettext-tools-0.14.5-4 (no matching packages/versions found)
Exiting with failure.
$
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Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Randal mv: rename
/sw/src/fink.build/root-postgresql-perl-586-8.2.9-1/sw/lib/postgresql-8.2/plperl.so
to
/sw/src/fink.build/root-postgresql-perl-586-8.2.9-1/sw/lib/postgresql-8.2/plperl-586.so:
No such file or directory
Randal
I'm finally about to cut over from 10.4 to 10.5. What will this do
to my fink install? Do I need to recompile everything? Do I need
to reinstall? Will it be relatively trivial? Transparent?
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Package manager version: 0.27.10
Distribution version: 0.8.1.rsync i386
OK, so I should be fine. I selfupdate daily. :)
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Sorry if this is a fact, but the website appears to be deregistered,
yet SF still points at it. Is this going to change soon?
I ask because I'm still pulling updates and reading this mailing list just
fine... but there's no website I can point my friends at!
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Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Randal The Apple migration tool apparently didn't copy over my fink-added
users.
Randal How do I force install passwd to get them recreated?
Randal (This may be a FAQ, sorry.)
Never post before the first caffiene of the day. fink
) Give up
(2) Retry the same mirror
(3) Retry another mirror from your country
(4) Retry another mirror
How do you want to proceed? [3]
Is that known, and soon to be fixed?
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the legacy means. :(
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Failed: Can't resolve dependency gettext-shlibs for package cvs-1.12.13-1
(no matching packages/versions found)
Started showing up about two days ago. Known? Fixable?
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to *this* list, so it'd be a fast way of determining
whether the problem is known or unknown.
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26.9M
Appears to have no subprocesses (checked via ps laxww | grep 15501)
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Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Martin Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Is 0.5.4 known broken? Is there a newer version?
Martin Works OK here.
Or is it something peculiar to me that keeps it saying updating
the table data with a barber pole forever?
Martin If you run sudo apt
Is 0.5.4 known broken? Is there a newer version?
Or is it something peculiar to me that keeps it saying updating
the table data with a barber pole forever?
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Alexander == Alexander K Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Alexander Both 10.3 and 10.4 have the package available in the unstable tree:
Alexander http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/system-openssl-dev
Alexander So botched seems unjustified
I'm running stable.
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Alexander == Alexander K Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Alexander Both 10.3 and 10.4 have the package available in the unstable tree:
Alexander http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/system-openssl-dev
Alexander So botched seems
-unified-8.0.3-24 (no matching packages/versions found)
ooops. :(
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be confusing this with fink index or fink reindex or something.
Thanks for the update.
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in to the situation.
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5.8.6-4 Core files for perl, v. 5.8.6
pilot-link9-... 0.11.7-2 Palm libraries perl modules
system-perl586[virtual package]
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This system was not released at the time this Fink release was made.
Prerelease versions of Mac OS X might work with Fink, but there are no
guarantees.
ln -s 10.3 /sw/fink/dists
Is this output correct? Because fink list perl5 is still wrong.
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dependency perl581-core for package
xml-parser-pm581-2.34-14 (no matching packages/versions found)
Information about 2181 packages read in 1 seconds.
So, who broke the tree? Why is there a dependency on something that
cannot exist?
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Looks like some postgres things were rolled over, but now
we're missing libgeos2. Is that in unstable, and if so, should
it not already be promoted so that postgres8 can build?
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Tools for enabling prebinding in Fink
How long before fink-mirrors goes to 24.4.1 ? (Note, I'm not using
unstable.)
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, or old ones
used instead.
### execution of /sw/bin/apt-get failed, exit code 100
Did someone break something at sourceforge? Why the 403's?
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that are nowhere to be found on the net, or at least not at
the places in the mirror list?
Or am I just using bad mirror settings?
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I didn't see any reply on this... no comment?
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Randal The most recent ettercap seems to be broken. Is it just me?
Randal Trying even the first example of the manpage:
Randal localhost:~ % sudo ettercap -Tp
Randal ettercap NG
[ec_manuf.c:manuf_init:126]
Cannot open etter.finger.mac
That looks like some major missing install stuff. But is it just me?
Should I retry building other stuff?
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David == David R Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David An update: SourceForge has now responded, and is fixing the problem.
David -- Dave
Yes, I now have new fink!
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Peter == Peter O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Peter Yeah, it was the top news item on fink's home page for a while. It is
Peter still on the front page though.
Thanks... you mean I have to read the news? :) :)
Downloading now.
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Has that ever existed? Who needs to fix this? And how
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is that? I'm going to get errors EVERY TIME I
run fink (usually daily) until fink is updated to 0.20. How soon is
that?
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Benjamin == Benjamin Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Benjamin Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
I haven't seen any .info files updated at all for the past two days.
Did everyone go home? :)
Benjamin it might be my rss feed is acting up... I've seen updates...
$ find /sw/fink/10.3 -name '*.info
Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Martin On 1 avr. 2004, at 14:36, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Did everyone go home? :)
Benjamin it might be my rss feed is acting up... I've seen updates...
$ find /sw/fink/10.3 -name '*.info' -mtime -2 -print
[crickets chirp, nothing
for the
workaround... I'm fetching the file now with /usr/bin/curl. But this
won't help the next guy.
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and an address in SAVVIS space. In both cases,
the curl just starts, but will sit there for 3-5 minutes before I
Ctrl-C it. And I can't ping that host from either of my two hosts,
and a traceroute stops short beore I get there.
Whatever it is, it's a picky host. :)
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ethereal-ssl (rather than the ethereal
I had installed), and all worked fine.
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change? Am I doing it wrong again?
This started about a week ago, if I recall.
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Darian == Darian Lanx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Darian Even though I am a bit scared to say so (The name Randal L. Schwartz
Darian does call for respect ya' know?!).
Darian Unless you intend to have all of the tree around
Darian (10.2/10.2-gcc3.3/10.3), you are behind a very restrictive firewall
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Rob == Rob Braun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Rob On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 12:13:40PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
During fink selfupdate-cvs, I'm seeing a series of 10.3/unstable/...
entries (scrolling by for a minute, probably a few hundred files) on
*EVERY SINGLE UPDATE*.
Rob Well
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Randal And it's a different number after .VERSION every time.
Ahh, the problem seemed to be that /sw/fink was owned by root,
not merlyn. Not sure how it got that way, but what an odd way
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get no mirror site list found for mirror 'master'.
Help!
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Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Martin I am now trying to find a way out of this by
Randal Arggh. I just got bit by this too!
Martin 1. reinstalling the old version of fink-0.17.1-1
Randal I did that with ./inject.pl
Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Martin Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Martin I am now trying to find a way out of this by
Arggh. I just got bit by this too!
Martin 1. reinstalling the old version of fink-0.17.1-1
I did
that should be one of the choices in fink configure.
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(compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0)
time stamp 1064385339 Tue Sep 23 23:35:39 2003
And it still crashes. :(
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it's definitely something only in the display
code.
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, it would shadow the ones
defined later. Apparently that's not the case.
Do I really have to blow away the unstable versions just so that
it sees the stable versions? My next rsync update will then
re-upgrade me. Ugh.
Why isn't the order of Trees important?
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in there somewhere.
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the newer
Perl that also looks at older directories, than to collapse the old
and new directories.
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be that $(PWD) will insert the PWD variable
or PWD envar known to Make, while $$PWD will defer that to the
shell as $PWD. You'd see the difference in:
cd /etc; echo $(PWD)
vs
cd /etc; echo $$PWD
Which one is right? Depends on what you needed it for.
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to ensure the sources are
available for at least part of the time? Or is this a rogue package
wanting this source?
Also, is there any easy way to see which package wants a particular source?
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as far as I can tell never existed anywhere. :(
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: XFree86 4.3.x and Apple X11 1.0
i system-xfree86-upgrade 1.0-1 (place-holder package for upgrading broken
installs)
How do I get the -dev ? I upgraded 10.2 to 10.3, installing in-place.
Do I need to install an optional SDK again?
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, but fink install gtk+2
seems happy.
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/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/games/grhino-0.7.0-11.info.
Updating package index... done.
Are these wanted, expected, known, fixable, hurting anything?
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Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Martin None of the above: Already fixed, about a week ago.
Define already fixed. I just self-updated, and I'm still getting it.
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Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Martin Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Martin None of the above: Already fixed, about a week ago.
Define already fixed. I just self-updated, and I'm still getting
it.
Martin Weird. The only
/x11/xplanet-0.95-12.patch
-rw-r--r--1 merlyn unknown 1813 Nov 8 02:36
/sw/fink/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11/xplanet.info
-rw-r--r--1 merlyn unknown 410 Nov 8 02:36
/sw/fink/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11/xplanet.patch
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Information about 1977 packages read in 2 seconds.
i rsync2.5.5-1 Synchronize filesystems between hosts
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Don == Don McKenzie Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Don [82-69-15-218:~] donpaul% which rsync
Don /sw/bin/rsync
Yes, this does seem to be the culprit now.
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Perl
not just version number here. It's versionnumber plus threads,
and no upward compatibility at the binary level.
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series between
Michael similarly configured Perls. Otherwise something's really broken.
Threads are not compatible with non-threads. And the word should
is of course the ideal there, but I think P5P admits dropping the ball
on 5.8.0 vs 5.8.1.
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Hmm. On the rsync update this morning, fink was updated, said something
about switching to 10.3, and now my 5000 packages are down to 800.
Did the latest update get rid of unstable? I can't remember where
I enabled that.
Or is the Right Thing Happening?
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, you get the previous
$1. NEVER NEVER NEVER use $1 except when qualified as the condition
of a match.
Michael grep /^\s+i /, `fink list -i`;
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Perl
nearly anything else without using --force-depends
though. Only X11 did I have to go below the hood.
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should look into DBD::SQLite then... a complete SQL engine with
transactions, subselects, views, etc... but without the server
running! The entire engine is included in the DBD::SQLite distro.
It's really rather remarkable.
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Hisashi == Hisashi T Fujinaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hisashi On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
If there's any part of the Perl programming that is too slow, please
demonstrate it with benchmarks.
Hisashi Reading the code. I can reread most of my code with some work; perl
;
open INFO_FILE, $INFO_FILE.tmp or die Cannot create $INFO_FILE.tmp: $!;
print INFO_FILE END;
Package: system-perlmodules
Version: 1.0
Revision: @{[time]}
Description: Placeholder for self-installed Perl Modules
Maintainer: Randal L. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Provides
that. I've tried at all times of day or night.
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for everyone, and there's no
end to the breakage in sight? How is anyone getting anything done?
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Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Randal I'm using the CVS tip of fink... lately, I've been getting failures to
Randal download that end up trying to download something with master: in
Randal the front. And each failure makes it even longer!
Randal curl -f -L -O
like it is.
Try removing the source from /sw/src, and then fink fetch-missing.
All hades breaks loose.
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/konversation-0.12.tar.gz
What's doing that?
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that's a file already. Why did you use ls? :)
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Ugh. How do you uninstall X11.app? :)
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openssl097-shlibs for package
sitecopy-ssl-0.11.4-6 (no matching packages/versions found)
Just recently, that is.
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installed.
So, please update or outdate bundle-tetex and system-tetex and
tetex-macosx soon. For all of us. :)
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Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Randal You didn't mention that bundle-tetex is now severely broken. It is.
Randal It wants to install things that aren't provided by tetex-base, except
Randal that they are, and so it tries to install the old version of
Randal dvi-something
Max == Max Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Max One of the last changes to speed up re-index causes a regression. Now
Max if I enter e.g. fink list -o when my index is dirty, I get this:
Max fink list -o
What's fink list -o? It's not documented.
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Justin == Justin Hallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Justin try fink list --help
Ahh, another *undocumented* feature.
Try finding *that* in either man fink or fink --help. It's not there.
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that on the mailing list
Ben helps noone, it won't get fixed.
It's a response to you *in* the mailing list telling me about
things that only a psychic could know.
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that. No simple addition of parens will help
you. What you're saying now is the same as leaving the second and
third my off, and use strict would have caught that.
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step?
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nicely with a self-installed Perl installation? Something
system-MUMBLE-ish should work, but will require the support
of the fink developers.
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the core fink tool to understand this relationship.
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the ground up would
certainly tackle this. Unfortunately, I'm recovering from a Q3 and Q4
loss, so every odd ounce of time I've got is spent doing marketing and
sales right now so that Q1 doesn't end up in the same toilet.
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follow the right pattern.
It'd have to go into the fink bible about what pattern your packages
could be.
It might be simpler just to have a list of registered keywords though.
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...\n;
open INFO_FILE, $INFO_FILE.tmp or die Cannot create $INFO_FILE.tmp: $!;
print INFO_FILE END;
Package: system-perlmodules
Version: 1.0
Revision: @{[time]}
Description: Placeholder for self-installed Perl Modules
Maintainer: Randal L. Schwartz merlyn
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Randal Actually, on second thought, I should conflicts: (everything) but
Randal provides: (only the modules I actually have installed).
Randal Maybe for version 2. :)
Sorry, I hit send too quick...
And the *reason* for that is that I don't
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Randal Actually, on second thought, I should conflicts: (everything) but
Randal provides: (only the modules I actually have installed).
Randal Maybe for version 2. :)
Randal Sorry, I
there's a more sane global
solution to that. Maybe there could be one large system-perl that
provides all the perl requirements for every package. Or maybe
just an entry in the config file.
Any thoughts on how to do this without breaking everything open?
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I've also used). Is this some knowledge you
bring from practical use or some secret document?
Unfortunately, I don't have anything I want to recursively remove
right now, or I would have just tried it.
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