Re: [Fis] Heretic

On 4 Oct 2017 at 6:01 AM, tozziart...@libero.it wrote: my proposal is to forget about information, and to use your otherwise very valuable skills and efforts in other fields. This penetrating statement reminds me of another similar one made by John

Re: [Fis] Heretic

Dear colleagues In order to know the relations between living organisms and their environment, I use Brillouin's formula (and its fundamental thermodynamical signification) to compute the information contained in biological structures and the probability of events. It is written in french,

Re: [Fis] Heretic

zar.es> on behalf of Bob Logan <lo...@physics.utoronto.ca> Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 12:39 PM To: Arturo Tozzi Cc: fis Subject: Re: [Fis] Heretic Dear Arturo - I enjoyed your expression of your opinion because of its directness and honesty even though I do not quite agree with ever

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Bob -- Your classification of information-related concepts: • Data are the pure and simple facts without any particular structure or organization, the basic atoms of information, • Information is structured data, which adds meaning to the data and gives it context and significance, • Knowledge

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Dear Arturo - I enjoyed your expression of your opinion because of its directness and honesty even though I do not quite agree with everything you said. I enjoyed it because it provoked the following thoughts. Yes you are right there seems to be a variety of opinions as to just what

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Dear Professor Tozzi, Might I suggest that you graciously retire from the list, as you evidently do not wish to participate in what the rest of us find fascinating topics of discussion. As a physicist, I have no difficulty in relating to the concept of 'information', and I am aware of no less

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Thanks Loet, for a very clear and concise exposition of an approach that I agree with. I'm curious about your use of the word 'dualistic'. Dualism usually suggests that there are two aspects to a single phenomenon. As I interpret your post, you are saying that information and meaning are

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Nobody of us is able to provide an operative framework and a single (just one!) empirical testable prevision able to assess "information". Dear colleague, One should not confuse the confusion on the list with the clarity of the concept information in information theory. This definition is