[Flightgear-devel] FG/Opengc Interface

2002-02-23 Thread John Wojnaroski
Hi, A question was asked last week on running FG and OpenGC on the same machine. Well, theone way is to run each app in it's own window and use the loopback address of 127.0.0.1 to communicate via sockets. fgfs .. --opengc=socket,out,24,127.0.0.1,5800,udp ... Depending on

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Odd character bug in property manager.

2002-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin van Beilen -- Saturday 23 February 2002 02:54: If I type ls -l (reflex :-)) to the property interface, fgfs locks so hard that my voodoo card doesn't get reset to its off state. If I type ls blah (literally) I get an ERR message as required. It seems to happen with all characters

AW: [Flightgear-devel] Problem report on release 0.7.9

2002-02-23 Thread Michael Basler
Hi, For what it's worth: I made an extended test of several German/Austrian airports after installing the most recent CVS version including Curt's patch. These are the results: Working (no mishap): EDDM LSZR EDDS EDDN LOWI LIBP LSZS LSPM These require scenery packages e000n40 + e010n40. All

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem report on release 0.7.9

2002-02-23 Thread James Turner
On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 20:52, Curtis L. Olson wrote: This may or may not be related but when I start up at an airport for which i have no scenery, the elevation is below 0. At EHAM it is -17 ft as shown in /position/altitude-ft. Actually, when an ocean tile is automatically generated,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem report on release 0.7.9

2002-02-23 Thread Tony Peden
On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 11:25, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I believe I have found/fixed the initialization order problem. Flightgear has a concept of an 'absolute' view position in cartesian coordinates where (0,0,0) is the center of the Earth; and a 'relative' view position where (0,0,0) is the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] - Important -

2002-02-23 Thread Martin Spott
The down side of this is that with the monitoring tools our network admins have, we are most definitely no longer under the radar screen. In fact the network traffic to/from the flightgear server dwarfs the traffic for any other machine here in the department. Oh, I know what you're talking

Re: [Flightgear-devel] - Important -

2002-02-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: If you use flightgear in any academic or research context, please read this message through and please send me a response. (Directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is preferred.) -- Request -- I would like to be able to do a better, more definitive job at justifying our

[Flightgear-devel] FGEnvironment [not] vs. WeatherCM

2002-02-23 Thread Christian Mayer
Hi, first I want to say that there's nothing personal in this 'case'. And I don't care too much if it's my code or David's code (or both) that 'survive' at the end. I've written WeatherCM in an attempt to learn the ++ of the C++ and thus it did it's job for me. But what puzzels me is the

Re: AW: [Flightgear-devel] FG/Opengc Interface

2002-02-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Michael Basler wrote: John Wojnaroski wrote: A question was asked last week on running FG and OpenGC on the same machine. Well, the one way is to John, that might have been me ;-) The picture in the Gallery is just fascinating. I tried downloading OpenGC stuff, but

AW: AW: [Flightgear-devel] FG/Opengc Interface

2002-02-23 Thread Michael Basler
Erik, It looks like the .sf.net domain sometimes doesn't work. Try uding opengc.sourceforge.net instead. ...which does not work either :-( But thanks for the hint, anyway. I'll try again later; it should return sometime. Regards, Michael -- Michael Basler, Jena, Germany

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG/Opengc Interface

2002-02-23 Thread John Wojnaroski
I tried downloading OpenGC stuff, but http://opengc.sf.net/ seems to be dead (might be temporarily, though). Is the FG related stuff under that same address (I recall it was integrated, right?) or somewhere else? Try http://www.opengc.org. If the problem persists, I can upload a

re: [Flightgear-devel] FGEnvironment [not] vs. WeatherCM

2002-02-23 Thread David Megginson
Christian Mayer writes: The rest of FlightGear won't have to know about that -- all it has to know is how to get an environment object: const FGEnvironment * env = globals.get_env_mgr()-getEnv(lat, lon, alt); FGPhysicalProperty wdbpos = WeatherDatabase-get(position);

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Temperature and air pressure

2002-02-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 15:29:18 -0800, Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Megginson wrote: I've added two new properties tied to the FGEnvironment class (you'll see these only if you compile with --with-new-environment):

[Flightgear-devel] Here's a worthy web site

2002-02-23 Thread BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM)
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tower view

2002-02-23 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Boslough, Mark B) [2002.02.22 18:40]: Is there no longer a tower view option? 0.7.8 could toggle from pilot to chase to tower view, I believe. 0.7.9 does not seem to have this feature. I think you're mistaken. FlightGear has never had a tower view. -- Cameron Moore [

[Flightgear-devel] Re: FG/Opengc Interface

2002-02-23 Thread John Wojnaroski
Hi, A question was asked last week on running FG and OpenGC on the same machine. Well, the one way is to run each app in it's own window and use the loopback address of 127.0.0.1 to communicate via sockets. fgfs .. --opengc=socket,out,24,127.0.0.1,5800,udp ... Shift-5

[Flightgear-devel] OpenGL/Plib rotation

2002-02-23 Thread David Megginson
I'm having a mental block right now, and would appreciate help on a simple question. How do I rotate an object (in raw OpenGL or preferable, plib/ssg) around a point other than the origin? Do I have to transform the object to the origin, rotate it, then transform back again? Thanks, David

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGEnvironment [not] vs. WeatherCM

2002-02-23 Thread Wolfram Kuss
David wrote: 3. Concentrate on JSBSim and YASim for the FDM integration at first. I still think sailing planes need a good weather database the most. While JSBSim and YASim may be the best flight models we have generally, AFAIK neither JSBSim nor YASim has a sailing plane (in the works). All

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tower view

2002-02-23 Thread Michael Selig
At 2/23/02, you wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Boslough, Mark B) [2002.02.22 18:40]: Is there no longer a tower view option? 0.7.8 could toggle from pilot to chase to tower view, I believe. 0.7.9 does not seem to have this feature. I think you're mistaken. FlightGear has never had a tower

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Temperature and air pressure

2002-02-23 Thread Jon S. Berndt
..for flight in other atmospheres (Mars, Venus, Jupiter, or in fluids like water), which atmosphere model is easier to work from? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) I started work some time ago on making JSBSim accept a different gravity model. This was specifically

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New subsystem: FGEnvironment

2002-02-23 Thread Martin van Beilen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 05:46:11PM -0500, David Megginson wrote: I'd suggest something like this: /environment/cloud-layer[0]/enabled /environment/cloud-layer[0]/type I'll stick to /environment/clouds/layer[n] for now. There's more to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Odd character bug in property manager.

2002-02-23 Thread Martin van Beilen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 10:00:35AM +0100, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Exceptions are simply broken in gcc around version 2.95.2, they don't work across modules. Oh. Cute. Does gcc 3 support this feature as well? Of course, one could work around

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGEnvironment [not] vs. WeatherCM

2002-02-23 Thread Wolfram Kuss
Jon wrote: There is one in the works for JSBSim, at least Ah - excellent news! Jon Bye bye, Wolfram. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Re: Odd character bug in property manager.

2002-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin van Beilen -- Saturday 23 February 2002 18:30: On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 10:00:35AM +0100, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Exceptions are simply broken in gcc around version 2.95.2, they don't work across modules. Oh. Cute. Does gcc 3 support this feature as well? I don't know, but I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FG/Opengc Interface

2002-02-23 Thread Martin Spott
#define SERV_HOST_ADDR your_NIC_address for the machine running fgfs. As I see it, I've to hard code the NIC at build time, right? This might be a pity for people like me sitting on a (home) network with dynamically assigned addresses (DHCP). The address of your loopback interface should

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGL/Plib rotation

2002-02-23 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: I'm having a mental block right now, and would appreciate help on a simple question. How do I rotate an object (in raw OpenGL or preferable, plib/ssg) around a point other than the origin? Do I have to transform the object to the origin, rotate it, then transform

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Post 0.7.9 priorities

2002-02-23 Thread Petru Paler
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 09:51:31PM -0500, David Megginson wrote: Yes, I agree that bug-swatting is also important. We should aim to have 0.8 build clean with -Wall (under G++), and run clean with all Is someone working on the warning cleanups? If not, I'll have a try at it. Petru

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New subsystem: FGEnvironment

2002-02-23 Thread David Megginson
Martin van Beilen writes: Removal is a bit of a problem though. In the current situation properties are created for life. We could just leave unused nodes, or I could add a delChild() method, or I could add it to the destructor. What do you think? Properties exist for life because any

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGL/Plib rotation

2002-02-23 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: It's been a while, but as I recall you probably want translate the object to the origin (or have it start out there) do whatever combination of rotations to orient it properly, and then translate it to it's final location. Yes, that's what I ended up doing. It

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Tower view

2002-02-23 Thread Boslough, Mark B
There seems to be a vestigial reference to TOWER_VIEW in 0.7.9, but as Michael says, the code section that was in 0.7.8 is no longer there. This would be a useful feature for simulating r/c flight. Mark -Original Message- From: Michael Selig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New subsystem: FGEnvironment

2002-02-23 Thread Martin van Beilen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 06:16:19PM -0500, David Megginson wrote: Properties exist for life because any number of different modules might be holding pointers to them. We'll have to figure out some kind of management scheme if we want node

re: [Flightgear-devel] FGEnvironment [not] vs. WeatherCM

2002-02-23 Thread tcpip
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, David Megginson wrote: Christian -- I'm developing my own weather DB in a separate stream (--with-new-environment) partly to give you and others a chance to integrate your code. If you can tie it in to the rest of FlightGear (including the FDMs), I'll happily stop my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tower view

2002-02-23 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Selig) [2002.02.23 13:32]: At 2/23/02, you wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Boslough, Mark B) [2002.02.22 18:40]: Is there no longer a tower view option? 0.7.8 could toggle from pilot to chase to tower view, I believe. 0.7.9 does not seem to have this feature.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Tower view

2002-02-23 Thread David Megginson
Boslough, Mark B writes: There seems to be a vestigial reference to TOWER_VIEW in 0.7.9, but as Michael says, the code section that was in 0.7.8 is no longer there. This would be a useful feature for simulating r/c flight. There was never any code to support it; Curt just added it to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New subsystem: FGEnvironment

2002-02-23 Thread David Megginson
Martin van Beilen writes: Well, that's the easy part. We can add a DELETE flag and set it on all dynamic properties. I'm more worried about multithreading. It may be necessary to implement a locking scheme to prevent simultaneous access and deletion of a property. (Only if DELETE is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tower view

2002-02-23 Thread Alex Perry
There seems to be a vestigial reference to TOWER_VIEW in 0.7.9, but as Michael says, the code section that was in 0.7.8 is no longer there. This would be a useful feature for simulating r/c flight. There was never any code to support it; Curt just added it to the enum as a bit of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tower view

2002-02-23 Thread Michael Selig
At 2/23/02, you wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Selig) [2002.02.23 13:32]: At 2/23/02, you wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Boslough, Mark B) [2002.02.22 18:40]: Is there no longer a tower view option? 0.7.8 could toggle from pilot to chase to tower view, I believe. 0.7.9 does not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tower view

2002-02-23 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Selig) [2002.02.23 20:08]: At 2/23/02, you wrote: Michael, You had to have put that there yourself because that was never committed to CVS (I know...I wrote it). It works, but it's a major hack and shouldn't be in the official FG source (IMHO). Someone needs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG/Opengc Interface

2002-02-23 Thread Andy Ross
John Wojnaroski wrote: On the 747 YASim model, have not been able to slow to a resonable approach speed 150kts and maintain altitude, run out of elevator authority around 184 kts and flap settings seem to have no effect. The numbers I have in my 747 flight manual don't match up with what

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG/Opengc Interface

2002-02-23 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: Undeniably. Unfortunately, the only way to get it closer is to have people work on and provide feedback for the models. I'll freely admit that I don't spend much time in the 747 model, because big jets don't push my buttons. Jim Brennan, could probably rattle off 747

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG/Opengc Interface

2002-02-23 Thread John Check
On Saturday 23 February 2002 10:24 pm, you wrote: Andy Ross writes: Undeniably. Unfortunately, the only way to get it closer is to have people work on and provide feedback for the models. I'll freely admit that I don't spend much time in the 747 model, because big jets don't push my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG/Opengc Interface

2002-02-23 Thread John Wojnaroski
Andy Ross writes: Undeniably. Unfortunately, the only way to get it closer is to have people work on and provide feedback for the models. I'll freely admit that I don't spend much time in the 747 model, because big jets don't push my buttons. Jim Brennan, could probably rattle off