[Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Selig
Apparently something has changed w/ the z-placement of the model on the runway. With the recent CVS, my models are now sitting below the runway and I can only see (sometimes) the tops of the airplanes. In my *-model.xml files, this was working: offsets z-m-.2/z-m x-m-.6/x-m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Selig
At 4/10/02, you wrote: Apparently something has changed w/ the z-placement of the model on the runway. With the recent CVS, my models are now sitting below the runway and I can only see (sometimes) the tops of the airplanes. In my *-model.xml files, this was working: offsets z-m-.2/z-m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FrameRate !!

2002-04-10 Thread Martin Spott
but 2.0 is in part a 'rconciliation' of the various 'propriatary' extensions and the inclusion of things that almost all of the manufacturers have done to support M$oft DX#. And this driver has more of these upcoming features then any of the previous ones. So this driver is Nvidia's tool to

[Flightgear-devel] stall horn?

2002-04-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Did we lose the stall horn somewhere along the way? It seems to be missing from the default C172. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FTD

2002-04-10 Thread Gene Buckle
YEah, well knowing Austin, I'm going to avoid any flight piloted by someone trained on his software. I'll live longer that way. g. On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Cameron Moore wrote: Looks like X-Plane beat us to the punch, but I'm still impressed. http://www.x-plane.com/FTD.html -- Cameron Moore

[Flightgear-devel] segfault (linux)

2002-04-10 Thread Alex Perry
... Cannot open file: /usr/local/lib/FlightGear/Scenery/Objects.txt Initializing splash screen Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 1024 (LWP 1748)] fgReshape (width=1024, height=768) at main.cxx:1243 1243

Re: [Flightgear-devel] segfault (linux)

2002-04-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Alex, Make sure you have the latest base package ... I think some default properties changed. I don't think this should lead to a segfault, but apparently it does ... Curt. Alex Perry writes: ... Cannot open file: /usr/local/lib/FlightGear/Scenery/Objects.txt Initializing splash screen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim piston engine

2002-04-10 Thread Andy Ross
Alex Perry wrote: I've never noticed it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. For most throttle transients, the combination of prop momentum, throttle pump and induction system effects will hide the blade stall transition. Especially true if you have a controllable prop. Have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-10 Thread Andy Ross
Michael Selig wrote: I can ask this differently. What sets the height above the runway of the hud-ladder target spot (wrt the 3D model view) --- ie the center spot? For c310-yasim and c172-larcsim, it's above the runway. For UIUC models, it's below the runway (a recent change). Where

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim piston engine

2002-04-10 Thread Alex Perry
It is gradual. In fact, if you think about it, it has to be. A propeller that presented the same AoA at every point along the blade would have to change its degree of twist as the advance ratio changed. I was just wondering whether the twist happened to correspond to the AOA-plus-advance so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Selig
At 4/10/02, you wrote: Michael Selig wrote: I can ask this differently. What sets the height above the runway of the hud-ladder target spot (wrt the 3D model view) --- ie the center spot? For c310-yasim and c172-larcsim, it's above the runway. For UIUC models, it's below the runway (a

re: [Flightgear-devel] stall horn?

2002-04-10 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: Did we lose the stall horn somewhere along the way? It seems to be missing from the default C172. As long as we're bitching, I've noticed the slight nosewheel-bouncing (during the takeoff run) are producing loud squeals again. All the best, David -- David

re: [Flightgear-devel] stall horn?

2002-04-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Curtis L. Olson writes: Did we lose the stall horn somewhere along the way? It seems to be missing from the default C172. As long as we're bitching, I've noticed the slight nosewheel-bouncing (during the takeoff run) are producing loud squeals again. I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] My Second Flight

2002-04-10 Thread Gene Buckle
Again, thanks everyone, w00T! Congrats David! g. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] Cockpit transparent to RWY lights

2002-04-10 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Do you notice that : with the modified KSFO.btg.gz provided by Curt to demonstrate runway light and the 3d cockpit, you can see the light points thru the panel ! -Fred ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

re: [Flightgear-devel] Cockpit transparent to RWY lights

2002-04-10 Thread David Megginson
Frederic Bouvier writes: Do you notice that : with the modified KSFO.btg.gz provided by Curt to demonstrate runway light and the 3d cockpit, you can see the light points thru the panel ! Yes. I also noticed that you cannot see the runway lights through the translucent propeller disk

Re: [Flightgear-devel] stall horn?

2002-04-10 Thread Frederic Bouvier
From: Jon S Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the newly trimmed C172 behaves much better it is almost flyable again. :-) Almost? What are the remaining caveats? Besides, that is, no propeller drag at the higher airpseeds and propeller overspeeds?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] stall horn?

2002-04-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Jon S Berndt writes: Curtis L. Olson wrote: I originally did a *very* simplistic model of wheel spin down. This was for the purpose of audio effect only and had nothing to do with modeling actual ground behavior. Do you want

Re: [Flightgear-devel] stall horn?

2002-04-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Curtis L. Olson writes: Sorry, 'almost' is a figure of speech. My cultural heritage doesn't allow me to get too excited about anything. I wouldn't want to make a scene and stand out. :-) That's why Minnesota elected its current governor, I guess. It's the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] stall horn?

2002-04-10 Thread David Megginson
Frederic Bouvier writes: The c172 is flyable now but I thing the stall don't reproduce the real behaviour. I thing it should dive more frankly. Now it seems to stay flat ! My changes shouldn't affect the stall, except for any roll component. I've read that the C172 often stalls very

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cockpit transparent to RWY lights

2002-04-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic Bouvier writes: I don't know how a scene is drawn now but by drawing : 1. the scenery, 2. the lights, 3. the cockpit, 4. the panel. in that order, we should avoid this kind of anomaly. Am I missing something ? If we draw the outside scenery followed by the 3d model / panel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] stall horn?

2002-04-10 Thread Frederic Bouvier
From: David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frederic Bouvier writes: The c172 is flyable now but I thing the stall don't reproduce the real behaviour. I thing it should dive more frankly. Now it seems to stay flat ! My changes shouldn't affect the stall, except for any roll component.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cockpit transparent to RWY lights

2002-04-10 Thread Frederic Bouvier
From: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frederic Bouvier writes: I don't know how a scene is drawn now but by drawing : 1. the scenery, 2. the lights, 3. the cockpit, 4. the panel. in that order, we should avoid this kind of anomaly. Am I missing something ? If we draw the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cockpit transparent to RWY lights

2002-04-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic Bouvier writes: From: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frederic Bouvier writes: I don't know how a scene is drawn now but by drawing : 1. the scenery, 2. the lights, 3. the cockpit, 4. the panel. in that order, we should avoid this kind of anomaly. Am I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] stall horn?

2002-04-10 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:43:03 +0200 Frederic Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the JSBsim model, I don't see the decrease of AoA at stall. Instead, the plane keeps it AoA with the stick completely pulled. It does not swivel around its CG like a real plane ! I'll try and have a look this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] segfault (linux)

2002-04-10 Thread Alex Perry
Yep, that apparently fixed it. Curt said: Make sure you have the latest base package ... I think some default properties changed. I don't think this should lead to a segfault, but apparently it does ... Alex Perry writes: ... Cannot open file:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cockpit transparent to RWY lights

2002-04-10 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Frederic Bouvier writes: I don't know how a scene is drawn now but by drawing : 1. the scenery, 2. the lights, 3. the cockpit, 4. the panel. in that order, we should avoid this kind of anomaly. Am I missing something ? If we draw

Re: [Flightgear-devel] stall horn?

2002-04-10 Thread Tony Peden
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 14:43, Frederic Bouvier wrote: From: David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frederic Bouvier writes: The c172 is flyable now but I thing the stall don't reproduce the real behaviour. I thing it should dive more frankly. Now it seems to stay flat ! My

Re: [Flightgear-devel] stall horn?

2002-04-10 Thread David Megginson
Jon S Berndt writes: I'll try and have a look this evening, but Tony's probably the better one to look at this. But, IIRC he's very busy this week. Basically, Frederic's loosing elevator authority before he loses lift. I don't have my C172 POH yet (the flying club usually has students

Re: [Flightgear-devel] segfault (linux)

2002-04-10 Thread Jim Wilson
Curt, The new default properties set up the various views. So the problem is if running the new code, and none is defined there would be no view to access. I'm going to submit some patches that consolidate some of the matrix math for models and views, which included some patches to the view

Re: [Flightgear-devel] My Second Flight

2002-04-10 Thread John Check
On Wednesday 10 April 2002 04:26 pm, you wrote: Again, thanks everyone, w00T! Congrats David! g. Hear hear ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] My Second Flight

2002-04-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:22:41 -0400, John Check [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 10 April 2002 04:26 pm, you wrote: Again, thanks everyone, w00T! Congrats David! g. Hear hear ..we have him hooked now. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] My Second Flight

2002-04-10 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I've signed up for ground school and for more lessons and have joined the Ottawa Flying Club as a student member (about US $60/year) -- I'll introduce them to FlightGear when I'm better established. Yep, your in it now. Congratulations! Best, Jim

[Flightgear-devel] Windows Build Problems

2002-04-10 Thread Jonathan Polley
With the latest updates to CVS, MSVC is having problems. c:\flightgear\src\main\location.hxx(96) : error C2440: 'return' : cannot convert from 'float [4][4]' to 'const float ()[4][4]' Reason: cannot convert from 'float [4][4]' to 'const float [4][4]' There is no context in which this conversion

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windows Build Problems

2002-04-10 Thread Jim Wilson
Jonathan on those four lines (thats all there is) change the text from sgMat4 get... to sgVec4 * get If you bring up lines 96-99 you'll see where the change is required. Sorry about that. I should be able to get a patch done sometime tomorrow. Best, Jim Jonathan Polley [EMAIL PROTECTED]