Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSIm, aeromatic, crosswind taxiiing, et cetera

2011-06-20 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sunday 19 June 2011 10:50:01 John Denker wrote: On 06/19/2011 06:46 AM, Jon S. Berndt wrote: Maybe I've gone wrong somewhere here, but something similar might work. Also, in situations like a flat spin or tail slide this probably falls apart! Let's postpone discussion of exotic flight

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal updating properties in the menu

2011-06-20 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Sunday, June 19, 2011 05:12:31 PM Ron Jensen wrote: On Sunday 19 June 2011 17:55:25 Hal V. Engel wrote: On Sunday, June 19, 2011 02:15:54 PM Ron Jensen wrote: http://www.mail-archive.com/flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg3 02 08 .html gui.menuBind(radio,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state feature-freeze until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-20 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Short version for the impatient reader: Please do _NOT_ push any major changes or new features to simgear, flightgear, fgdata until further advice! snip Please refrain from pushing new features or major infrastructure changes to our

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Stuart Buchanan wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Please refrain from pushing new features or major infrastructure changes to our streams. Please note: this includes fgdata, too! [...] What's the position on aircraft updates? They're part of fgdata ;-) Indeed,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Martin Spot wrote: Stuart Buchanan wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Please refrain from pushing new features or major infrastructure changes to our streams. Please note: this includes fgdata, too! [...] What's the position on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread James Turner
On 20 Jun 2011, at 21:18, Stuart Buchanan wrote: No, not generally. Obvious fixes are ok, major overhauls are not, in case of doubt I'd propose that the changes in question should be reviewed (which is a darn good idea anyway ;-) Well, I _was_ planning to review the changes. :)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Stuart, Stuart Buchanan wrote: Both of the changes in question are major model overhauls to the respective models (c172p, c150). Comments on the state of the c172 model went unheard for months, therefore I'd like to hear a really convincing reason why such major overhaul can't wait until

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi all, Stuart wrote: Both of the changes in question are major model overhauls to the respective models (c172p, c150). I need to correct that slightly. All I've been working on is a (c172p) new panel including the pedestal. There were a lot of faults and missing switches in the previous

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Martin Spott wrote: Comments on the state of the c172 model went unheard for months, therefore I'd like to hear a really convincing reason why such major overhaul can't wait until the tree is open for the next development cycle. Not quite unheard - just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Stuart Buchanan wrote: I don't think there's a convincing reason why it can't wait until the next development cycle, but I was unclear as to whether aircraft were considered major features. Ah, well, aircraft are a pretty prominent feature in flight simulation, don't they ;-) While we're

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread James Turner
On 20 Jun 2011, at 21:52, Martin Spott wrote: This is the first time we're aiming at having one release every six months and not everything will be perfect on the first attempt. Anyhow I'm still proposing to let us familiarize ourselves with the implications of having a release plan instead

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
I wrote: ThorstenB wrote: ... snip ... So, I am really sorry, Vivian, that you were still unable to make the system work for you - on day 2 (though it seems people only started trying to use it _today_). ... snip ... Getting back to the original purpose ... it's worse than I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Functions for Propwash and Downwash [was: Clarification on YASim input]

2011-06-20 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Sunday, June 19, 2011 09:58:48 AM Bertrand Coconnier wrote: 2011/6/19 Ron Jensen w...@jentronics.com: On Saturday 18 June 2011 21:00:41 Jon S. Berndt wrote: Here's an example from Hal's P-51D Mustang. This is from an old version, so it may have changed by now, but it illustrates the