Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-21 Thread dene maxwell
I tried IE/FTP and Firefox/FTP and as you say both reported they had downloaded 530MB but the files were very much smaller. Used BitTorrent with no Antivirus or S/ware firewall (only the NAT router) and got a top download rate of 50KB/s and a 543MB file. Used to use Gozilla as download

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-21 Thread Ima Sudonim
..could also be your Wintendo setups. You might wanna fetch a lightweight distro like http://damnsmalllinux.org/ (50MB for creditcard size cds) and use that to fetch and burn FGLiveCD. Hey Arnt, just an observation I've noticed that alot of *nix users will dis Windows at almost every

[Flightgear-devel] Weekly CVS Changelog Summary: SimGear

2006-05-21 Thread Curtis L. Olson
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[Flightgear-devel] Weekly CVS Changelog Summary: FlightGear source

2006-05-21 Thread Curtis L. Olson
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[Flightgear-devel] Weekly CVS Changelog Summary: FlightGear data

2006-05-21 Thread Curtis L. Olson
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[Flightgear-devel] FGBenachmark; Was: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround

2006-05-21 Thread Martin Spott
Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..that fancy FGBenchmark-0.0.6-4-FGL line should be: Which FGBenchmark are you referring to ? I didn't continue FGBenchmark after 0.0.5a because newer FlightGear releases didn't compile on all platforms I was aiming at. Did somebody actually succeed in building binaries for

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FGBenachmark; Was: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround

2006-05-21 Thread dene maxwell
Just an idea Martin... A FGLive type ISO with programs that will benchmark the hardware only so what if it runs under *nix local optimisations are a matter of personal choice albeit open for public discussion you guys would know if this is do-able/worth-while though just an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGBenachmark; Was: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround

2006-05-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 21 May 2006 10:32:23 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..that fancy FGBenchmark-0.0.6-4-FGL line should be: Which FGBenchmark are you referring to ? ..picked it right outta FGBenchmark-0.0.5. Url to FGBenchmark-0.0.5a (if it used any

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-21 Thread Martin Spott
dene maxwell wrote: ... as for FGLive...I have a 543MB ISO courtesay of Bittorrent.. and will burn it tomorrow onto a CD-RW... what's this MD5 stuff? This is a checksum that allows you to verify the correctness of the downloaded file. Sometimes during download of large files even over

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGBenachmark; Was: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround

2006-05-21 Thread Martin Spott
dene maxwell wrote: Just an idea Martin... A FGLive type ISO with programs that will benchmark the hardware only The FGBenchmark package was meant to compare performance not only under different setups of the same operating system and architecture (say Linux on x86) but to compare

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated

2006-05-21 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: And the Paris scenery is not finished. I have a whole bunch of models to send to Jon. Now that the isses appear to be sorted out you could also send some some of these to me, if you like, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-21 Thread Martin Spott
dene maxwell wrote: so we bit the bullet and got cable TV/2Mb/s SDSL (the cable was aready run to the house)... my poor old P1 can only get 97KB/s out of the 2Mbps pipe The FTP site actually _does_ have a limit per client host but this is set high enough to staturate a 2 MBit/s line,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGBenachmark; Was: ..FGLiveCD boot

2006-05-21 Thread Martin Spott
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 21 May 2006 10:32:23 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..that fancy FGBenchmark-0.0.6-4-FGL line should be: Which FGBenchmark are you referring to ? ..picked it right outta FGBenchmark-0.0.5. Url to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGBenachmark; Was: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround

2006-05-21 Thread dene maxwell
Hi Martin, I can safely say that that one passed over me about 5,000ft ASL, I'll take your word that it's not a viable option... it was just a suggestion :-D ene From: Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-21 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Sunday 21 May 2006 12:58, Martin Spott wrote: # ~ md5sum filename and compare the result with the bublished checksum, Martin. Or if you're lazy or have a md5sum file containing md5sums of several files put them all in one dir and do a : md5sum -c -v md5.sums -v is needed on some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGBenachmark; Was: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround

2006-05-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 21 May 2006 11:06:54 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: dene maxwell wrote: Just an idea Martin... A FGLive type ISO with programs that will benchmark the hardware only The FGBenchmark package was meant to compare performance not only under different

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGBenachmark; Was: ..FGLiveCD boot

2006-05-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 21 May 2006 11:23:44 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 21 May 2006 10:32:23 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..that fancy FGBenchmark-0.0.6-4-FGL line should be: Which

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 21 May 2006 11:22:06 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: dene maxwell wrote: so we bit the bullet and got cable TV/2Mb/s SDSL (the cable was aready run to the house)... my poor old P1 can only get 97KB/s out of the 2Mbps pipe The FTP site actually _does_

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MSVC project files

2006-05-21 Thread Olaf Flebbe
2006/5/19, Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I remember Fredric maintained an archive of project files used to compile under MSVC, but I can't find a link to it on FlightGear.org. Are they hosted somewhere? Is version 2005 supported yet? yes. Please use

[Flightgear-devel] FGLive-0.1 Feedback

2006-05-21 Thread dene maxwell
Hi all, Experience to date; - Don't even try downloading the ISO using FTP! If you need to punish yourself, book in for root canal work, it's less painful. If you want to make it easy, download and install the BitTorrent Client. - FGLive won't run on a P1/166Mhz, 96MB Ram with S3 Trio64V+

[Flightgear-devel] Re: FGLive-0.1 Feedback

2006-05-21 Thread Pigeon
- FGLive won't run on a P1/166Mhz, 96MB Ram with S3 Trio64V+ video card... Loading GRUB ...error 21 That's an unfortunate bug due to old/broken bios with some old machines. Apparently LILO might work. On the other hand, I don't know if your machine is really capable of running FG?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FGLive-0.1 Feedback

2006-05-21 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Pigeon wrote: - FGLive won't run on a P1/166Mhz, 96MB Ram with S3 Trio64V+ video card... Loading GRUB ...error 21 That's an unfortunate bug due to old/broken bios with some old machines. Apparently LILO might work. On the other hand, I don't know if your machine is really capable

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Re: FGLive-0.1 Feedback

2006-05-21 Thread Pigeon
I gather FGLive is based around =FGv0.9.9 ...it loads further from the FGLive CD than it ever did under Windows Me ...so maybe that would indicate that it's not a purely hardware issue. Yes, FGLive's FG is currently 0.9.10, plus a little bit cvs fixes. So do you mean there are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FGLive-0.1 Feedback

2006-05-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 22 May 2006 11:52:45 +1000, Pigeon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - FGLive won't run on a P1/166Mhz, 96MB Ram with S3 Trio64V+ video card... Loading GRUB ...error 21 That's an unfortunate bug due to old/broken bios with some old machines. Apparently LILO might work.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FGLive-0.1 Feedback

2006-05-21 Thread dene maxwell
Hi Curt I couldn't really give two hoots about getting FG running on the P1... it's P4 I want FG=099 to run From: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pigeon wrote: - FGLive won't run on a P1/166Mhz, 96MB Ram with S3 Trio64V+ video card... Loading GRUB ...error 21 That's an

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Re: FGLive-0.1 Feedback

2006-05-21 Thread dene maxwell
ok... ran FGlive and set the debugging level to info... will try to save the resulting log file and make it available to anyone interested. but basically even after the 4th iteration of cutting the ISO, it stops processing (mouse position only gets updated every 30 secs) at the; loading

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FGLive-0.1 Feedback

2006-05-21 Thread dene maxwell
Hi mate, From: Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 22 May 2006 11:52:45 +1000, Pigeon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - FGLive won't run on a P1/166Mhz, 96MB Ram with S3 Trio64V+ video card... Loading GRUB ...error 21 ..ok, now it's getting perrrsonal: http://ubcd.sf.net/