Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-23 Thread Martin Spott
Dene wrote: Having been involved with this project I think that part of Arnt's original post is fuelled by the difficulty in turning TaxiDraw output into something that can be used by FGFS. I personally don't care much abount Arnt's concerns, I'm convinced that he's never ever understood

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-23 Thread Curtis Olson
On 12/23/06, Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still I agree with you that the process of creating Scenery - even though the technical side is pretty nifty - has some drawbacks when it comes to handling this process. I think there is some hen-and-egg problem hiding here: The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-23 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Curt, Curtis Olson wrote: On 12/23/06, Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To quote another recent poster ... ... the above statement above is not completely accurate, and not accurately complete. You do have some great sounding talking points though. :-)) Where do you think

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-22 Thread Dene
And if Oshkosh reconfigures their runways and landing zones for EAA, ..yup, that's what I'm talking about. are they out repaving the runways and taxiways, ..nope, unless somebody coughs up the funds needed. are they repainting line markings? ..I dunno if

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-21 Thread Martin Spott
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:46:00 -0600, Curtis wrote in message On 12/20/06, Arnt Karlsen wrote: DAFIF doesn't release any new data to the public at all, Robin releases every one or two months, so there's no real point in preferring DAFIF over Robin's export,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:42:32 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:46:00 -0600, Curtis wrote in message On 12/20/06, Arnt Karlsen wrote: DAFIF doesn't release any new data to the public at all, Robin releases every

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-21 Thread Curtis Olson
On 12/21/06, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..agreed, I have a vague idea but not enough to show code. ;o) And if Oshkosh reconfigures their runways and landing zones for EAA, are they out repaving the runways and taxiways, are they repainting line markings? That's the sort of stuff that goes into

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:50:09 -0600, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12/21/06, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..agreed, I have a vague idea but not enough to show code. ;o) And if Oshkosh reconfigures their runways and landing zones for EAA, ..yup, that's what I'm talking about.

[Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
There are many TODO-lists for FlightGear that are floating around on The Net. One of thesde is the Feature Requests / Proposals / Ideas page on The Wiki, where someone proposes to load DAFIF into a database. Because I don't really understand what the author is aiming at or if he knows about the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:18 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are many TODO-lists for FlightGear that are floating around on The Net. One of thesde is the Feature Requests / Proposals / Ideas page on The Wiki, where someone proposes to load DAFIF into a database.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:18 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [my own Message-ID removed]: Man, am I glad that I'm using an 'inofficial' domainname for writing these postings, otherwise your ignorance concerning privacy issues would push my address into every harvester

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Curtis Olson
On 12/20/06, Martin Spott wrote: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:18 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [my own Message-ID removed]: Man, am I glad that I'm using an 'inofficial' domainname for writing these postings, otherwise your ignorance concerning privacy issues would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis Olson wrote: I don't see what advantage maintaining our own SQL version of a subset of someone else's SQL database will give us. Faster editing? The file isn't big enough to really worry about speed. Want to use an sql database with flightgear at runtime? Better find an embedded

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Stefan Seifert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Curtis Olson wrote: Want to use an sql database with flightgear at runtime? Better find an embedded database tool that is binary compatible across all platforms ... and is open source ... and compiles on all the platforms we support ... ! Well,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:10:47 +0100, Arnt wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:18 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are many TODO-lists for FlightGear that are floating around on The Net. One of thesde is the Feature Requests /

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:15:11 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:18 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [my own Message-ID removed]: Man, am I glad that I'm using an 'inofficial' domainname for writing these postings,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:27:14 -0600, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12/20/06, Martin Spott wrote: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:18 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [my own Message-ID removed]: Well, my intention was to remove that item from the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..any chance we can get full access to the data we need? It might cover e.g. temporary things like scheduled shutdown of runways or taxiways becoming airshow runways etc. Obviously we're not interested in X-Plane specific data. Where did you spot X-Plane specific data

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:10:13 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..any chance we can get full access to the data we need? It might cover e.g. temporary things like scheduled shutdown of runways or taxiways becoming airshow runways etc.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Curtis Olson
On 12/20/06, Arnt Karlsen wrote: DAFIF doesn't release any new data to the public at all, Robin releases every one or two months, so there's no real point in preferring DAFIF over Robin's export, ..precisely why we might prefer an enhancement to Robin's current export. What are we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:46:00 -0600, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12/20/06, Arnt Karlsen wrote: DAFIF doesn't release any new data to the public at all, Robin releases every one or two months, so there's no real point in preferring DAFIF over Robin's export,