Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2013-02-09 Thread Ron Jensen
On Saturday 08 December 2012 12:12:23 Ron Jensen wrote: I took a quick look through the FGData Aircraft directory today and came up with a list of some 27 JSBSim piston engines that still seem to be using either the old aeromatic default values for idle manifold pressure (minmp) or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Eric van den Berg
Ron, From experience: the lyco IO540 idles at 14-15 inHG, 900RPM (MT-prop with P-880-xx governor) Eric From: w...@jentronics.com To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 12:12:23 -0700 CC: jsbsim-de...@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Ron Jensen
On Tuesday 11 December 2012 00:55:35 Eric van den Berg wrote: Ron, From experience: the lyco IO540 idles at 14-15 inHG, 900RPM (MT-prop with P-880-xx governor) Eric Thanks Eric, The JSBSim piston engine model is missing something, probably Mach effect through the intake valve, so models

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Eric van den Berg
To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:20:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle On Tuesday 11 December 2012 00:55:35 Eric van den Berg wrote: Ron, From experience: the lyco IO540 idles at 14-15 inHG, 900RPM (MT-prop with P-880-xx

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Ron Jensen
On Tuesday 11 December 2012 09:46:10 Eric van den Berg wrote: I see. Looking at the code (I think) I can see you are trying calculate the pressure losses in the injector/throttle valve, airbox and inlet tubes. Using throttle position and engine speed (was expecting cylinder displacement here

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Eric van den Berg
So it is kind of modelled like an air pump. Interesting method. BTW p0 =101325 Pa R = 287.05 Cp_air = 1004.68 gamma = 1.4 Handbook of Aviation fuel properties, third edition: net heat of combustion of AVGAS, all grades : min. 43.5 MJ/kg, 44 typical density of AVGAS: 710 at 15degC C_p_AVGAS =

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Ron Jensen
On Tuesday 11 December 2012 13:49:51 Eric van den Berg wrote: So it is kind of modelled like an air pump. Interesting method. Piston engines are basically air pumps. We currently calculate power by dividing the mass fuel flow by the user-entered bsfc multiply by correction factors for mixture

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Ron Jensen
On Tuesday 11 December 2012 13:49:51 Eric van den Berg wrote: So it is kind of modelled like an air pump. Interesting method. Piston engines are basically air pumps. We currently calculate power by dividing the mass fuel flow by the user-entered bsfc multiply by correction factors for mixture

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-10 Thread Torsten Dreyer
I'd be grateful for an update of the Dragonfly and the ogeL. The Dragonfly's configuration was a wild guess, and only very vaguely based on real numbers. ogeL's engine is by definition just fantasy ;-) Thanks, Torsten Am 08.12.2012 20:12, schrieb Ron Jensen: I took a quick look through the

[Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-08 Thread Ron Jensen
I took a quick look through the FGData Aircraft directory today and came up with a list of some 27 JSBSim piston engines that still seem to be using either the old aeromatic default values for idle manifold pressure (minmp) or suspiciously low values. As time permits this week I intend to take a