Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiple channel autopilot controllers

2008-02-15 Thread LeeE
On Friday 15 February 2008 04:19, Jon S. Berndt wrote: [snip...] ...system, and I have an idea. I might start out with vertically launching the X-15... Lol :)) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiple channel autopilot controllers

2008-02-14 Thread LeeE
On Thursday 14 February 2008 02:46, Jon S. Berndt wrote: Sometimes I really wish that I had the necessary data to do JSBSim configs for some of the aircraft I've done - then I could also play with some of the control stuff that JonSB has incorporated in to JSBSim. It's pretty unlikely

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiple channel autopilot controllers

2008-02-14 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Ah - the Grumman X-29 FSW - that could be fun to do:) I see the pdf you link to also includes the XB-70A :) homer XB70/homer IIRC, you were working on the STS program at one point - have you moved over to the Orion project now? Will your JSBSim rocket FDM find it's way into FG at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiple channel autopilot controllers

2008-02-13 Thread LeeE
On Wednesday 13 February 2008 01:12, Jeff McBride wrote: Thanks for your comments - they fit with what I'm finding thinking. Sure, in piloted aircraft takeoff is handled by the pilot, who is able to cope with a wide range of possible failures at this critical phase of flight, but I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiple channel autopilot controllers

2008-02-13 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Sometimes I really wish that I had the necessary data to do JSBSim configs for some of the aircraft I've done - then I could also play with some of the control stuff that JonSB has incorporated in to JSBSim. It's pretty unlikely that I could get good enough data for the aircraft I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiple channel autopilot controllers

2008-02-12 Thread LeeE
On Tuesday 12 February 2008 17:21, Robin van Steenbergen wrote: LeeE wrote: This is just for info and probably mainly directed at Roy Vegard Ovesen but it might also interest other people interested in setting up autopilot systems. As I've mentioned previously, I've had some problems

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiple channel autopilot controllers

2008-02-12 Thread R. van Steenbergen
LeeE wrote: Thanks for your comments - they fit with what I'm finding thinking. Sure, in piloted aircraft takeoff is handled by the pilot, who is able to cope with a wide range of possible failures at this critical phase of flight, but I'm trying to work towards a UAV control

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiple channel autopilot controllers

2008-02-12 Thread Jeff McBride
Thanks for your comments - they fit with what I'm finding thinking. Sure, in piloted aircraft takeoff is handled by the pilot, who is able to cope with a wide range of possible failures at this critical phase of flight, but I'm trying to work towards a UAV control framework, from takeoff

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiple channel autopilot controllers

2008-02-12 Thread Jon S. Berndt
My experience with UAV control systems is that scheduling gains with airspeed is a good idea if you want control over a wide envelope. It is difficult enough to make the vehicle stable over the entire flight envelope. If you want anything approaching optimum control, you need to have gain

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiple channel autopilot controllers

2008-02-12 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
LeeE wrote: This is just for info and probably mainly directed at Roy Vegard Ovesen but it might also interest other people interested in setting up autopilot systems. As I've mentioned previously, I've had some problems tuning PID controllers, specifically controllers that maintain a