FLUXLIST@scribble.com writes:
Dear Owen,
Can you tell me exactly the title for the Visible Language issue that
contains my little essay?
Yours.
Walter
Sure Walter - it is the second one of the two volume set - it is:
Visible Language 40.1
Fluxus After Fluxus.
Owen
FLUXLIST@scribble.com on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 9:58 AM -0500 wrote:
I would be very interested in hearing the thoughts of both Alison and Hannah
about the current status of Fluxus. If they are prepared to address the
Dead/Alive/Both question head-on that would be very interesting, however
FLUXLIST@scribble.com on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 12:10 PM -0500 wrote:
I think that the answers that I seek arise from two questions:
1) How to deal with critics, curators, and historians who insist that Fluxus
only existed at a particular time in history, and that it only involved the
group
FLUXLIST@scribble.com on Monday, May 15, 2006 at 2:46 PM -0500 wrote:
could you email me off line please? I had a question
for you and I don't have your email address. Thanks Madawg
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, Ina Blom
on the historiographic dialectic of Ben Vautier's signature, and
a special collection of conversations and notes by children of the
Fluxus artists compiled by Hannah Higgins (herself a Fluxkid).
Owen Smith examines Fluxus and learning strategies, and the issue
ends with an inquiry
FLUXLIST@scribble.com writes:
Does anybody know that if there's any (famous) artist that uses
computer/digital stuff to make art, preferably the pioneering ones (i.e.[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldo_Giorgini ]Aldo Giorgini)
Thanks!
regards,
There are literally thousands of interesting
I am still waiting as well since I never got mine either. . . .
So Crispin what is up with this? If you can not or will not finish them maybe
you should turn the contents over to someone who will (finish the boxes that
is).
Owen
FLUXLIST@scribble.com writes:
I didn't get one.
Cecil Touchon
FLUXLIST@scribble.com writes:
from the institute of fluxus brisbane, in australia.
Wow! sounds impressive, the Institute of Fluxus Brisbane.
Bertrand
So, might I ask - what exactly is the Institute of Fluxus? Are you on line? or
do you have examples of what you do?
Owen
FLUXLIST@scribble.com on Monday, January 17, 2005 at 11:11 PM -0500 wrote:
me neither:
And I have not received mine either. . . .
So Crispin (or Don), what is up with the box production?
Owen
Dear Friends,
We are sad to announce that Jackson Mac Low died this morning at 11:30 a.m. at
Cabrini hospital in New York from complications after a stroke he suffered on
November 4th. He was 82.
There will be no funeral, but he will be buried at Cedar Park Cemetery in
Oradell, NJ.
A
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I did that analysis for an article I wrote about Fluxlist that Owen and Ken
were going to use. I did hear that it was finally going to be published but
this was some months ago and I've not heard from Owen since so I assume it's
not going to happen.
Sol (and the rest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
is allen bukoff still on the list?
Allan - he should be - I think he is still the moderator for the list . . .
Owen
Wow! All I did was not check my email for a couple of days and the list exploded with
a flurry of posts. As I read through them what struck me was regardless of the nature
and direction - what has beeen generated is a really interesting series of
statements about fluxus, history, art, theory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am interested in the piece.
Sorry the piece did not come throught the last time - here it is for anyone who is
interested.
Also Suse tell me more about this show, it sounds very interesting even if it did not
happen this time.
Owen
As evidenced by
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
hope this helps,
bests, carol
Richard Joly wrote:
hello Carol, thanks.
I would guess the images were done by Maciunas.. therefore maybe it's
Billy, his widow who holds the copyright [ I think that's her name.]
I'll forward this to some people who might know.
I just came across an action poem Filliou presented in 1965 called Le Filliou Ideal,
which in his book he describes as the secret of Absolute Permanent Creation. The
score of the poem reads:
not deciding
not choosing
not wanting
not owning
aware of self
wide awake
SITTING QUIETLY
DOING
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A.1.Waste Paper Co. Ltd.
So Michael - out of curiosity what goes on at A.1.Waste Paper Co. Ltd. ?
Welcome to the list,
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't this begging for a fluxus/fluxlist project?
--- Original Message ---
From: Edu-News [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:51:05 -0700
Subject: Artforumclassifieds.com
Funny you should mention this Allen - I just placed two adds on the site and it was
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ray wrote:
Hi!
Im eternally grateful
Me? I'm still shocked:
Is Kinkaid truly representing precisely what the American minds of our time desire?
Is his escapism salving souls in droves? Or, has the use of the media truly succeeded
in fundamentally brainwashing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Carol Starr wrote:
hi josh
you are brave to do 'danger music #2'.
very inteesting event, thanks for the photos.
Oh, it was hardly bravery. Foolhardy, maybe, but there was no danger in it (except to
my dignity).
I have actually found it rather an interesting piece to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://homepage.mac.com/shawnfeeney/flux/PhotoAlbum16.html
I am the one in the white shirt and black tie.
Very nice Josh - so how did it feel to perform Danger Music No. 2?
Owen
In light of some of your comments here is a little code art:
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
html
head
titlecode for art/title
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
/headmeta name=art content=html
body
table width=720 height=689 border=0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
REMOVE
UNWANTED
Very nice secret fluxus - realization and context quite wonderful.
Dick would, I am sure be, happy to hear of your performance.
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Following Jon Hendricks, the anouncement sheets were done and distributed
through Maciunas, but the actual posts were done by Paik (even if Jon
Hendricks publishes an abstracts from letters from Maciunas to Paik and Bob
Watts that can make one think the contrary )
I'm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes - this is what I meant as well - one example I came across was a coin.
So I assume that different coins were sent out as part of that edition.
However, I don't know how many were included in that edition. Do you think
the three fans you saw were the only ones in that
To all interested parties (and even if you are not). . . .
The following site is a final beta version of a project I have been working on for the
last year (on and off). Would be interested in any thoughts, comments or suggestions.
The initial animated graphic is a Java script and might load a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's all really easy and a high quality product, just like any
professionally produced paperback. They warn you about layouts and margins
etc. so you can get it right first time..I had no problems at all. You just
pdf everything and jpegs for the cover..they have full
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Just missing ours ;-)
[ http://www.4t.fluxus.net ]www.4t.fluxus.net
Bertrand
PS: dear Candace, thanks a lot for the info related to Paik's Avant-Garde Hinduism,
which leads me to assume that these posts were uniques and not multiples.
All the best,
Bertrand
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks Bertrand.
It seems that a composite of gathered information is the best way to
understand these projects. They are only from the 60s, though, right? One
would think there would be a little more knowledge about them. I'd be
curious to know how many subscribers he
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Make your own t-shirt.
http://www.nutscape.com/Bush2004/
Allen this is great! - you should also set up an account with cafepress (
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/ )
for those who are not DIY people so that they can buy a pre-made one you could also
throw in a nice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Owen I agree cafepress is excellent. Have you tried their digital publishing
facilities..perfect for short run perfect bound paperbacks.I created my
first publication a couple of months ago and am intending to use the service
for the cookbook when I have enough
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well apparently, this topic doesn't raise much reaction... :-)
Maybe it's because it lacks of humour?
Well, too bad
Bertrand
Sorry Bertrand meant to respond to this last week but got sidetracked. I have seen
several examples of this publication in the Sohm archive.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I guess there's hardly another place on the web with a higher percentage of
allans (or alans)
How come?
Yes, i think we have reached or limit, or this might have to be renamed the
al/lanlist, not the fluxlist.. . . . .
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have in my possession two rather exotic looking
ties, which I will send to two gentleman who would be
willing to wear them out for a day, be photographed,
and then send the tie on to another gentleman who will
do the same. Hopefully the ties will travel
constantly, and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
They usually keep performances on their site - so you may be able to listen
to it another time too if you miss Friday.
Candace.
Yes indeed thanks Candice - also some other great links and stuff to the [
http://www.musicnow.co.uk/scratch.html ]Scratch Orchestra
and the
In One Year and Out the Other
On New Year's Eve, make a telephone call from one time zone to
another so that you are conducting a conversation between people
located in two years.
-- Ken Friedman
December 31, 1975
Dear Friend,
This score is your invitation to participate in a performance
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks owen i recieved your editions very nice.
I will be mailing one to WOJTEC
crispin
Hey, they got there this time - Great!
(my guess is that it worked this time since I insured them )
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
By the way, the defense went out very well (mention very honorable+
congratulations of the jury).
Excellent Bertrand - well done and congratulations!!
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyway thought I'd share this with y'all since I've not shared anything with
the list for ages and ages and ages and ages and ages. But maybe you've
already seen it, if so just enjoy again.
Very nice sol - reminds me of some of the earlier work of a fav artist of mine
OK, after many comments from members of the fluxlist I have recompressed the videos to
make them much smaller for those of you on slow connections. The quality has dropped a
bit but not too badly and now those of you who commented can view them (i
hope) without each taking a half hour to load.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am still waitingon owen
and Sol to contribute but i want to get this rolling.
If i do recieve more contributions to the box I will
forward the pieces to those who have gotten their box.
Yes I have been bad and since the first versions got lost in the mail I have just
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ill let you know when i get it up and running.
do you want a link on my artist network for your
transitions.
Sure - that is fine if you want to Crispin.
Thanks,
Owen
Kate - just sent off the receipt to you here is the related info on the purchase
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
name:
Owen Smith
location:
Orono, Maine
age:
44
occupation:
Artist
Why did you buy this item:
For an art project related to economics, originality and creativity
Where did you buy
?ViewItemitem=3632652280category=551rd=1
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Awww come on, Owen. Tell us what the object was. Can you share the ebay url?
Kate - just sent off the receipt to you here is the related info on the
purchase
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
name:
Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Owen, I immediately went, looked up and perused the other eBay items you've
been bidding on during the last month...an interesting collage of stuff I
learned new things, thanks! eBay still knocks me out. It is an amazing
repository of collective human knowledge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
All right I've been reading the emails about the symposium at UMBC and for
the life of me I can't figure out where exactly it is. Maybe I'm just a little
dense but could someone tell me! I would like to go.
The conference is on the 16th - it is scheduled from 4-6 and
Collection will be enhanced by public
programming. On October 16th from 4 to 6 p.m., a symposium will feature Hannah Higgins
(University of Illinois at Chicago and daughter of Dick Higgins), Chris
Thompson (Maine College of Art), Owen Smith (University of Maine), and co-moderators
Kathy ODell (UMBC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am planning to go to he Fluxus symposium at UMBC.
the press release that I received stated that the symposium is on the
16th of October. I know you are a participant and am looking forward to
hearing your talk. Has the date been changed to the 17th, as per you last
Congratulations Bertrand - well done and all that!
I hate to ask you this since I know that you just want to live a bit, but
the fluxus geek scholar in me wants to know how one might be able to
get a copy of your dissertation?
No hurry on the answer just have a good time for a bit, eh?
All
Hey Crispin - I sent you a direct email a couple of days ago about my contribution to
the Fluxlist box but have not gotten a reply - did you get it?
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
WEll it seems to don and I that time has come to
finish the fluxbox and get on to other projects.
Everyone who will be participating should have their
editions and money 7.oo postage to me by august 1st.
I will be sending them out about a week into the month
of august.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm looking for the original version of Dick Higgins' In A Mine
Boatdestroyer around the world, published in german in the 1982 wiesbaden
catalogue.
They used to have on Ubuweb, but it has now disappeared (I'm not even sure
it was complete, anyway).
if someone has it, i'd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have a text from Dick in Flash Art, but the title is; Some Thoughts on the
context of FLuxus (pp. 34-38, in Flash Art n°84-85 oct.nov. 1978).
Maybe there is another text, but I can't check it, because I don't have the
Flash art issue, only xerox, and it may be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Iwould be interested in a copyswap or cash? -Don
_
I would also be interested in a copy - so please let me know about the specifics. . .
. .
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In Happening and Fluxus Szeeman and Sohm say there is a article in
Vernissage, a german newspaper, under the title
Autobusplans als partitur, but don't give the year.
Any clue anyone?
Vostell himself lists the year as 1962 (although his is not necessarily proof)
- in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Can anyone on rhizome let me know when they started restricting access to
members only and charging a membership fee. I'd not looked at their sight
for a long time and wanted to check the artbase and don't understand why
it's no longer freely publicly available.
Sol -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
They lost a
boat-load of subscribers and a host of goodwill, doing that.
Yes, indeed - they lost me and although I think that they probably don't care, I do. .
. .
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
hello
did anyone go to this show , and could offer comments ?
I have not gotten to the show - but Geoff told me that it was up for a while more -
till the end of April or so. From what I have been told it should be a very nice show
and well worth a trip to see it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i did not receive mails from list
So does this mean that we are back on line???
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
possibly, coming soon bowman's 4.33cm for guitar.
I like it Alan. . . .
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Amyone out there have update or contact info about George Brecht? If so,
please send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scott - Yes, George is still in Koln as the same address where he has lived for a
number of years now, but he is very unresponsive and has little or no contact
Fluxites - check out this online essay at the NYT (on things fluxish)
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/19/arts/design/19COTT.html
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
how much, if any of this is relevant?
I would at least like to make a decent effort at applying for this show.
it's something that i've never done before - and it's probably about time i
did.
Alan - I would put it all in but break it into relevant sections: Performances
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Just want to clarify: you only need to send me one copy of your card. I
will print the editions. Sorry for any confusion. However, feel free to
send more than one design if you like.
As for a deadline, how about April 1st? Is that reasonable?
Sounds good -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Of course, I could be wrong. Owen Smith has a Ph.D. in art history and
Bertrand Clavez is getting one. Perhaps they can tell us if there are any
two year Ph.D. programs.
No there are most certainly no Phd programs that take two years (most take between 5
and 10 years
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Alright. Send one edition of 50 to be made...
So... if I wanted to include, say an alphabet block - that would be 50 alphabet
blocks, one for each
box...Yes? But you asked for one?
50 total from each contributing artist/person- one for each box, right? Make sure that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why not pursue both avenues in this card idea? I'd like to stick with my
original idea about the cards from scratch,
Sure - I am game count me in on your original card idea Candace. . . .
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Allright, I can see where the paintcan could be construed as so rather
twee. Howza bout we go back to the Ziploc bag, or some other kind of low
rent receptacle. Even a brown paper lunch bag could be used, the crinkling
that would result from the bags repeated handling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hate to jump in last-minute-like, but 75 is a lot more than last time and I
don't think it'll fit in a cigar box unless it's all flat.
Ann - 75 is the total number of the edition not the number of contributors, which I
guess is about 30 or 35 right now.
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Another thing we should discuss: is the theme of Box #2 to be free, i.e. no theme
i.e. anything that strikes our fancy?
I say let it be free, other than Fluxus, fluxis, flxuist, fluxlist in spirit or kind.
. . .
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
so, have we decided what size the coffin will be as yet?
dimensions please + number of participants (75?)
/:b
Since we are still working on the box how about for now we start with the items/works
and set number and max dimensions - so how about the following
Maximum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is it too late to sign up to be part of the BOX
project even if it turns out to be a can?
I don't think so - we really have not begun to do this so any and all are in (if they
want).
Owen
My vote of the mentioned containers (so far) would be for either the cigar box or the
paint can (although I also still like the idea of the globe). I agree with Cecil that
there is no hurry, let's do it but take the time to do it right. As to number
I think that 50 is too small - if there end up
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=309item=3303265409
check these out on ebay good idea and cheep
Looks interesting and if they don't go higher are fairly cheep. I have seen a number
of publications that were published in VHS boxes and they work
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I like the jar unless it's really to fragile, in that case I would go for the
globe. Thanks for doing the research.
May good ideas about containers - I think the globe sounds interesting, particularly
if we can get them at a discount price (1.25 right?) - Josh just to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A paint can?
Cans are cool - I have published several multiples in cans and so I know that they can
work very well - I also have a canning press so we could literally can or seal the
box, so that would have to use an opener to get at the contents (kind of
relates to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[process juju] I think it would be interesting to include a
transcript of this design process. In particular it would start to
give some indications of the relationship between ideas, brainstorming,
online collaboration, decision-making (or not), the resulting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ahgg, no, don't use degradable anything, please! This is a librarian
speaking!
Ah, yes - One of my pieces (Salt Water) was purchased by a book arts collection and
then sent back to me when they realized that the work consisted of a metal can filled
with salt water
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm enjoying this box discussion so much I'm thinking it might be
interesting to make containers the theme of this project. Lots of little
individual-contributed containers, packed nicely together, holding only
themselves. Well...okay...I'll just go back to lurking.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Owen, Do you know any of the history of Fluxus as to how much editing George
did?
At various times quite a bit - although he often said that he only did this because
the artists themselves asked for it. Many people came and went so there were never any
that were out
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes. As I have also stated backchannel: it is wrong to
exclude people from an open list.
/:b
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Bertrand Clavez wrote:
Dear Allen,
I can't believe you've thrown away these fluxlisters!
and if this is the case, I can't agree with such a choice.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The results of the first box can be found here:
http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST/box1/boxfram.html
I think each person made 50 editions of a work and contributed $5 to cover postage
and materials (the box). Everyone got 1 box with one of each submission. I do not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
as for the box, what is used for a box what are the dimensions?
mIEKAL - This is a good place to start since it sets the nature and dimensions of the
contributions (nothing that is 10 foot long). since I make a lot of multiples my self
I have a lot of good sources
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Owen, these are excuses. Can you name one worthwhile thing you have
learned from Eric Anderson's posts to FLUXLIST? Can you produce one even
minimally constructive post? His entire output on this list has been to 1.
maintain his assertion that no one in real Fluxus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Owen,
i'm curious if my e-mail gets to you as i send it, because I keep getting error
e-mail message that your *.edu server can't receive my mail. Or they come to you with
the delay?
Did you get my last reply?
Mindaugas -
Some seem to be coming through, but I think
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
actually what I was thinking of was having a cdr inside of the fluxbox
Im offering to donate the blanks do all the dubbing provided were
still talking 50-100 copy range.
OK, that's what I thought as well - the first box had a CD, but it was by one of the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So my box broke at the hinges has anybody else had that problem yet?
happy new year BTW!
CECIL
Yes, one of the unfortunate sides of using the form of plastic boxes (cheep, with
flexi hinges) that we did. . . .
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
what about some wooden boxes custom made down here in mexico?
cecil
Sounds like a very interesting idea Cecil - what are the options and costs of such a
venture?? - Maybe it does not even have to be custom, might there be some wooden boxes
made for some other use that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That could be a cool idea... how about we each come up with a box, put our
contribution if 50 or whatever number works into it, ship it and then the
central clearing house shuffles up the boxes so that no one gets the one
they sent? I hope that makes sense.
cecil
This
I second and third Josh's and Melissa's ideas about a second box for/of the fluxlist.
I am also happy to help out in any way needed along with contributing. It seems to me
that there are two aspects that would be nice to work into this project: 1. a
collection of scores since there have been
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here, in Lithuania, one really decent Fluxus book was published some time ago. Though
i'm not sure if it's translated to other languages, but it has got some great pieces
from Maciunas mom's diary, thoughts of Jonas Mekas and other fluxers (you
know who they are) with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Searched the web for gossip.
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,870,000.
brilliant !
thanks.
ps :
Searched the web for urinals.
Results 1 - 10 of about 71,800. Search took 0.12
seconds.
richard
Searched the web for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
this is weird. the notice says it's about 160p
. . . you are probably right - I was just guessing since I did not have the book in
front of me - it is about 5.5x8.5 paper and about 3/8 thick.
I know that a similar title was published in Lithuania
about 2 years ago,
Excellent info Bertrand - thanks. . . .
Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jonas Mekas Presente Flux Friends - George Maciunas,Yoko Ono,John Lennon
Centre Georges Pompidou ; ISBN: 284426137X ; (2002/10)
Can anyone point to an online bookshop in Paris, or maybe one in Nice for in person
purchase [ a friend will be there in January] ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Greetings...
Don't know if this is old news or new news
or good news, but...
I was at Moe's in Berkeley on Saturday and
they had Fluxus Codex remaindered at
$48 plus the new Fluxus Experience book.
My wallet came in handy.
Neal - I hate to say this now, but if
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi, I will be very interested in reading more about
this volume
Richard
I got Hannah's book last week and read it on the plane to the Paris Fluxus symposium
and I can say that the book is great - it is easy to read, informative and gives some
new and interesting
the posted review is in reference to:
Shiomi, Mieko
A MUSICAL DICTIONARY OF 80 PEOPLE AROUND FLUXUS
Koln: ? Records, 2002
Standard audio CD in jewel case with 16pp insert. Shiomi's short
musical pieces are created from creating musical anagrams from
pitches obtained from the person's name -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Never seen Better Homes and Gardens magazine but have some old pet care
books for unusual pets (e.g. crocodiles, just bought the book but never
found anywhere selling crocodiles :( ) published by TFH Publications I
think, very cool.
In the same category I like
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