On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 03:00:35PM -0800, Casey Ransberger wrote:
Books? First, the smell. Especially old books. I have a friend who has a
Kindle. It smells *nothing* like a library, and I do think something is lost
there.
Some people get olfactorically imprinted on dead tree
during their
One thing I think that is being overlooked in this discussion is that by virtue
of belonging to this mailing list, we are ALL of us demographic outliers and
don't really represent the larger, normal population, thus our personal
impressions of concepts like ease of use are completely skewed
Thanks, interesting link. But I have some questions and comments:
_ How much does an e-reader last?
The article says:
This means an iPad owner would need to offset 32.4 printed
books during the iPad’s lifetime to break even in terms of the carbon
footprint of reading those books.
But as far
On 3/7/2012 8:00 PM, Max Orhai wrote:
Well, I for one dislike e-books (and honestly I don't care all that
much for computers either!), so I could add a few things off the top
of my head to this summing-up:
- Real books don't need power, are readable outdoors without eyestrain
(more than can
On 3/8/2012 7:51 AM, David Corking wrote:
BGB said:
by contrast, a wiki is often a much better experience, and similarly allows
the option of being presented sequentially (say, by daisy chaining articles
together, and/or writing huge articles). granted, it could be made maybe a
little better
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Martin Baldan martino...@gmail.com wrote:
- Print technology is orders of magnitude more environmentally benign
and affordable.
That seems a pretty strong claim. How do you back it up? Low cost and
environmental impact are supposed to be some of the
Here's a study which is a little more careful. Basically, it comes down to
how many e-books your expect to read over the life of your device. Baseline
for an iPad (considering only carbon emissions from manufacturing) is about
100 books.
http://www.greenpressinitiative.org/documents/ebooks.pdf
On 3/8/2012 12:34 PM, Max Orhai wrote:
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Martin Baldan martino...@gmail.com
mailto:martino...@gmail.com wrote:
- Print technology is orders of magnitude more environmentally
benign
and affordable.
That seems a pretty strong claim.
-boun...@vpri.org] On Behalf Of Mack
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 5:12 PM
To: Fundamentals of New Computing
Subject: Re: [fonc] OT: Hypertext and the e-book
Just a reminder that paper-making is one of the more toxic industries in
this country:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
Below.
On Mar 7, 2012, at 3:13 PM, BGB cr88...@gmail.com wrote:
thoughts:
admittedly, I am not really much of a person for reading fiction (I tend
mostly to read technical information, and most fictional material is more
often experienced in the form of movies/TV/games/...).
I did find
Indeed, now that you mention it, there's a paper factory not too far
from where I live...well, far enough, fortunately. By night, with its
huge vapor clouds and red lights, it looks like the gates of hell. And
you know what, it smells accordingly, tens of miles around.
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at
Yeah, true enough, the conventional paper and ink industries are pretty
nasty. But, search for nontoxic printing or nontoxic ink or
environmentally safe paper, and you get real-world products which just
cost marginally more than their poisonous counterparts. Try searching for
nontoxic computer by
On 3/7/2012 3:24 AM, Ryan Mitchley wrote:
May be of interest to some readers of the list:
http://nplusonemag.com/bones-of-the-book
thoughts:
admittedly, I am not really much of a person for reading fiction (I tend
mostly to read technical information, and most fictional material is
more
I am a self-admitted Kindle and iPad addict, however most of the people I know
are real book aficionados for relatively straight-forward reasons that can be
summed up as:
- Aesthetics: digital readers don't even come close to approximating the
experience of reading a printed and bound
On 3/7/2012 5:11 PM, Mack wrote:
I am a self-admitted Kindle and iPad addict, however most of the people I know are
real book aficionados for relatively straight-forward reasons that can be
summed up as:
- Aesthetics: digital readers don't even come close to approximating the
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