Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Werner Pamler]

Am 18.04.2017 um 23:24 schrieb Tomas Hajny:

Which Firefox version? SeaMonkey shows it correctly (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46)...


OK - found it: I have NoScript installed; if I remove the restrictions 
from the site the formulas show up (after some time).


There's a problem with Microsoft Edge: It wraps the inline formulas into 
new lines. But I think I can avoid inline formulas...

___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Denis Kozlov]

On 18/04/2017 22:32, Werner Pamler wrote:

v52.0.2 (Win10-64bit, Firefix is 32-bit). Any extensions needed?


Works fine here with Firefox v52.0.2 on Windows 7. No extensions needed, 
it just needs javascript.


Try clearing your cache.

Denis

___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Jonas Maebe]

Werner Pamler wrote:
> Thank you. Works fine in Chrome, but when I open this page in Firefox I
> don't see the formula, only the header "Math" :-(

Do you have Javascript enabled?


Jonas
___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Werner Pamler]

Am 18.04.2017 um 23:24 schrieb Tomas Hajny:

On Tue, April 18, 2017 23:16, Werner Pamler wrote:

Am 18.04.2017 um 21:42 schrieb Vincent Snijders:

I installed this extension with the default settings for size. See
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/SANDBOX#Math.

Thank you. Works fine in Chrome, but when I open this page in Firefox I
don't see the formula, only the header "Math" :-(

Which Firefox version? SeaMonkey shows it correctly (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46)...


v52.0.2 (Win10-64bit, Firefix is 32-bit). Any extensions needed?
___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Tomas Hajny]

On Tue, April 18, 2017 23:16, Werner Pamler wrote:
> Am 18.04.2017 um 21:42 schrieb Vincent Snijders:
>> I installed this extension with the default settings for size. See
>> http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/SANDBOX#Math.
>
> Thank you. Works fine in Chrome, but when I open this page in Firefox I
> don't see the formula, only the header "Math" :-(

Which Firefox version? SeaMonkey shows it correctly (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46)...

Tomas


___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Werner Pamler]

Am 18.04.2017 um 21:42 schrieb Vincent Snijders:
I installed this extension with the default settings for size. See 
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/SANDBOX#Math.


Thank you. Works fine in Chrome, but when I open this page in Firefox I 
don't see the formula, only the header "Math" :-(

___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Vincent Snijders]

2017-04-18 11:17 GMT+02:00 Vincent Snijders :

>
>
> 2017-04-17 18:17 GMT+02:00 Denis Kozlov :
>
>> On 15/04/2017 20:43, Vincent Snijders wrote:
>>
>> What math rendering extension do you recommend?
>>
>>
>> I recommend *SimpleMathJax* extension for its simplicity. It uses an
>> external resource (mathjax.org) and doesn't require a local rendering
>> engine.
>>
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SimpleMathJax
>>
>>
> I will try to find time this week to install that extension.
>
>
>
I installed this extension with the default settings for size. See
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/SANDBOX#Math.

Please, test if this is OK.

Vincent
___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Werner Pamler]

Am 18.04.2017 um 13:07 schrieb Marco van de Voort:

Note that there is documentation, it is just Dutch and TeX (not latex but
straight tex). Also, for some units the documentation sources are older than
the pascal source.


I know this source, I think you once had posted it in the German forum. 
Yes, I am a heavy user of "google.translate" at the moment...


___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Marco van de Voort]

In our previous episode, Werner Pamler said:
> Does anybody know how to write mathematical expressions in the wiki? I 
> would like to write an article on fpc's NumLib, but I would only want to 
> begin this activity when I know how to enter complex mathematical 
> formulas like integrals etc such that they are displayed decently.

Note that there is documentation, it is just Dutch and TeX (not latex but
straight tex). Also, for some units the documentation sources are older than
the pascal source.

See http://www.stack.nl/~marcov/numlib/
___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Vincent Snijders]

2017-04-17 18:17 GMT+02:00 Denis Kozlov :

> On 15/04/2017 20:43, Vincent Snijders wrote:
>
> What math rendering extension do you recommend?
>
>
> I recommend *SimpleMathJax* extension for its simplicity. It uses an
> external resource (mathjax.org) and doesn't require a local rendering
> engine.
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SimpleMathJax
>
>
I will try to find time this week to install that extension.

With kind regards,
Vincent
___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Michael Thompson]

On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 3:09 AM Werner Pamler 
wrote:

> Thanks. Application of #2 is a bit complicated, but the results are very
> nice - see
> http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/NumLib_Documentation#Gamma_function.
>

As an aside, just wanted to say thanks - that documentation looks awesome!
I see what you mean about the "strange function names" :-)

Mike
___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Denis Kozlov]

On 15/04/2017 20:43, Vincent Snijders wrote:

What math rendering extension do you recommend?


I recommend *SimpleMathJax* extension for its simplicity. It uses an 
external resource (mathjax.org) and doesn't require a local rendering 
engine.


https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SimpleMathJax

Denis

___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Denis Kozlov]

On 15/04/2017 20:06, Werner Pamler wrote:
Thanks. Application of #2 is a bit complicated, but the results are 
very nice - see 
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/NumLib_Documentation#Gamma_function. 
Which resolution would you recommend?


Your current resolution appears good on a desktop. On a high DPI device 
(mobile phone) it is a bit pixelated, but still readable.


Denis
___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Vincent Snijders]

2017-04-15 18:59 GMT+02:00 Denis Kozlov :

> On 14/04/2017 11:25, Werner Pamler wrote:
>
>> Does anybody know how to write mathematical expressions in the wiki? I
>> would like to write an article on fpc's NumLib, but I would only want to
>> begin this activity when I know how to enter complex mathematical formulas
>> like integrals etc such that they are displayed decently.
>>
>
> MediaWiki requires a math rendering extension, such as:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Math
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SimpleMathJax
>
> FPC/Lazarus wiki has no math rendering extensions installed, as you can
> see here:
> http://wiki.freepascal.org/Special:Version
>
>
What math rendering extension do you recommend?


> Installing Math extension is a bit of a pain because it usually requires a
> local rendering engine to be installed on the server.
>
> I think you have 2 options:
> 1) Write your formulates using the wiki's standard notation
> LaTeX, and once a Math extension is installed (if ever), your
> formulas will be automatically rendered.
> 2) Generate visual rendering of your LaTeX formulates yourself, for
> example using http://latex2png.com/, and upload them as images with
> associated LaTeX code in comments.
>
>
Vincent
___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Werner Pamler]

Am 15.04.2017 um 18:59 schrieb Denis Kozlov:

I think you have 2 options:
1) Write your formulates using the wiki's standard notation 
LaTeX, and once a Math extension is installed (if ever), 
your formulas will be automatically rendered.
2) Generate visual rendering of your LaTeX formulates yourself, for 
example using http://latex2png.com/, and upload them as images with 
associated LaTeX code in comments.


Thanks. Application of #2 is a bit complicated, but the results are very 
nice - see 
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/NumLib_Documentation#Gamma_function. 
Which resolution would you recommend?

___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Denis Kozlov]

On 14/04/2017 11:25, Werner Pamler wrote:
Does anybody know how to write mathematical expressions in the wiki? I 
would like to write an article on fpc's NumLib, but I would only want 
to begin this activity when I know how to enter complex mathematical 
formulas like integrals etc such that they are displayed decently.


MediaWiki requires a math rendering extension, such as:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Math
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SimpleMathJax

FPC/Lazarus wiki has no math rendering extensions installed, as you can 
see here:

http://wiki.freepascal.org/Special:Version

Installing Math extension is a bit of a pain because it usually requires 
a local rendering engine to be installed on the server.


I think you have 2 options:
1) Write your formulates using the wiki's standard notation 
LaTeX, and once a Math extension is installed (if ever), 
your formulas will be automatically rendered.
2) Generate visual rendering of your LaTeX formulates yourself, for 
example using http://latex2png.com/, and upload them as images with 
associated LaTeX code in comments.


Denis
___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Giuliano Colla]

Il 14/04/2017 22:08, Werner Pamler ha scritto:

It looks to me that something (the math template?) is missing from the 
Lazarus/FPC wiki infrastructure. If this is right, is there anybody I 
could contact? 


Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe that you can either load the template 
from the infrastructure, or add it somehow in your page. That's what I 
gathered from a quick reading of the wiki Template reference.


Giuliano

___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Werner Pamler]

Am 14.04.2017 um 19:33 schrieb Giuliano Colla:

Hope that it helps.


Not really... What I was seeking is a working example for something like

 \sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{x^n}{n!}

My naive assumption is that I'd just have to type this phrase into the 
wiki text to get this formula in perfect math notation. This example is 
taken from http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Help:Editing#emph, i.e. 
from the Lazarus/FPC wiki. I thought that this example should work. But 
it does not, the left column on this site should the code line again, 
not the correctly drawn mathematical formula, unlike the other examples 
- see for example "Math characters" a few boxes higher.


It looks to me that something (the math template?) is missing from the 
Lazarus/FPC wiki infrastructure. If this is right, is there anybody I 
could contact?

___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Giuliano Colla]

Il 14/04/2017 17:21, Werner Pamler ha scritto:

How do I activate this template?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_namespace

and in particular (to fetch the template text)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_namespace#Substitution

Hope that it helps.

Giuliano


___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[Werner Pamler]

Am 14.04.2017 um 14:49 schrieb ListMember:
Apparently, the FPC wiki uses the same software as Wikipedia; if so, 
the following links may be useful.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Mathematics#Using_HTML 



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mathematical_symbols
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mathematical_symbols


Yes I had found similar references myself, but neither they nor those 
above do work: If I insert


{{math|''x'' {{=}} −(''y''2 + 2)}}

 (copied from the first link above) into a wiki article and press "Show 
preview" it just displays Template:math in red. How do I activate this 
template?

|
|
___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Math expressions in wiki

[ListMember]

Apparently, the FPC wiki uses the same software as Wikipedia; if so, the 
following links may be useful.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Mathematics#Using_HTML

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mathematical_symbols
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mathematical_symbols

On 2017-04-14 13:25, Werner Pamler wrote:
Does anybody know how to write mathematical expressions in the wiki? I 
would like to write an article on fpc's NumLib, but I would only want 
to begin this activity when I know how to enter complex mathematical 
formulas like integrals etc such that they are displayed decently.

___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel


___
fpc-devel maillist  -  fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org
http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel