Re: [fpc-other] Mac Questions

2007-10-30 Thread Marco van de Voort
This is kind of not pascal related.. Can one use a Mac to compile BSD web programs and then upload these BSD programs to a BSD server? Can one create ELF on Mac and upload to a linux server fairly easily.. (compared to Windows where it is harder to make Elf's) No. The trouble of

Re: [fpc-other] Re: fpc-other Digest, Vol 10, Issue 3

2007-10-31 Thread Marco van de Voort
Cross compiling on a Mac is no more difficult than cross-compiling on BSD or Linux. The only thing to keep in mind is that if you need to generate i386 programs, the host compiler has to be an i386 binary as well currently. Which Mac compilers/computers not capable of producing i386?

Re: [fpc-other] Re: [fpc-pascal] PCRE

2007-11-13 Thread Marco van de Voort
The fact that we cannot use JCL code inside freepascal is in fact very much on topic. The fact that the freepascal compiler is distributed with a license called GPL is in fact very much on topic since it relates to the Pascal compiler, download, installation, etc. First, it is more likely

Re: [fpc-other] FPC Hypocrisy: overloaded L505

2008-02-26 Thread Marco van de Voort
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Skybuck Flying schrieb: For records, I would use an extension field like: IP.Payload and UDP.Payload I would hardly call that obfuscation :) Having the same name for different things is always obfuscation. procedure test;

Re: [fpc-other] Turbo51

2008-07-05 Thread Marco van de Voort
I think that the biggest problem for using it in a commercial project is that it is not open source and a hobby project. There is a risk it gets abandoned. Yes. But that depends on the scale of you rusage. For PIC microcontrollers there is a good amount of a Pascal compilers. For 8-bitters

[fpc-other] What would your second language be and why?

2008-12-06 Thread Marco van de Voort
But there comes a time, when I like to extend my knowledge a bit. Pick up some new skills and maybe ever carry those skills over to my daytime job and programming language. First, on what primary grounds do you select the language? Commercial (iow something to put on your resume) or technical

Re: [fpc-other] Re: [fpc-pascal] Illogical automatic dereferencing

2009-10-13 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Jonas Maebe said: Then another person pops up and asks why it is allowed only for pchar/pwidechar being illogical because this is not orthogonal. Undoubtedly. I guess the best solution is to have that Delphi switch so everyone can set the behaviour he/she

Re: [fpc-other] Lazarus LRS to Delphi DCR

2009-12-30 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 09:29:13AM -0200, papelhigien...@gmail.com wrote: I'm creating a set of components for lazarus/delphi. Now I'm creating the icons for the component palette. So I drawed it on inkscape, created a shell script to convert from svg = png = xpm = bmp and from these xpm files

Re: [fpc-other] Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal dialect -- was: Re: fpc-pascal Digest, Vol 72, Issue 12y

2010-06-04 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: The main goal is implementing stuff we care about. If Delphi already implemented something similar, then unless there is an extremely good reason for doing things differently, it is stupid to implement it in a different way simply

Re: [fpc-other] Pascal dialect -- was: Re: fpc-pascal Digest, Vol 72, Issue 12

2010-06-05 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho said: It seams to me that they only standarize the language itself, something which could be done adding a {$Mode ExtPascal} or something. Having said that, think that Object Pascal as we know it should also have a standard. Such

Re: [fpc-other] Re: [fpc-devel] Parallel processing in the compiler

2010-09-06 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Henry Vermaak said: how it should integrate with Windows, and how it should handle LineEnding characters etc. ?Nothing difficult about it, and the tools included work just fine. Yes, I'm talking about msysgit. It installs a whole msys tree, which I am not

Re: [fpc-other] Fork

2010-10-22 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Adem said: I don't mind the filter; this is life, it happens, But, I must say I am disappointed at the lack of management skills. You should ask yourself how management skills work in a community where nobody can force work on sb else. Graeme's last mail where he

Re: [fpc-other] Fork

2010-10-24 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: Graeme's last mail where he explains he just wants to drop quick and dirty patches AND IT IS FPC'S CORE TEAM JOB to make head or tails of it, explains the fundamental misconception better than I could do here. And here I thought that is

Re: [fpc-other] old installer

2012-03-01 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, P?ter, Bugledits said: I'm searching for old 1.X (official) FreePascal installers for all platform, especially for DOS (go32v1 and go32v2), OS2, win32 and linux. But I can't found installers older than version 2.X. Can you help me, where can I find these installers?

Re: [fpc-other] Re: fpc-other Digest, Vol 62, Issue 1

2012-10-07 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said: He unsubscribed from all FPC lists immediately after he sent his last message. Highly regrettable, but at least it happened /before/ all of the mailing lists etc. were transitioned to a system which the core project maintainers didn't

Re: [fpc-other] Re: fpc-other Digest, Vol 62, Issue 1

2012-10-07 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Jonas Maebe said: Highly regrettable, but at least it happened /before/ all of the mailing lists etc. were transitioned to a system which the core project maintainers didn't understand and might not be in control of. I don't think he ever insisted on that, and

[fpc-other] FPC 2.6.2 released!

2013-02-24 Thread Marco van de Voort
Hello, Finally, FPC 2.6.2 has landed. FPC 2.6.2 is an update to 2.6.0 that contains most library progress in 2012 and some crucial compiler fixes, as well as a few new targets. Building is still in progress and some formats (deb,rpm) and targets might not be available yet. Changes that may

[fpc-other] Free Pascal 2.6.4-rc1 released!

2013-12-19 Thread Marco van de Voort
Hello We have placed the first release candidate of the Free Pascal Compiler version 2.6.4 on our ftp servers. You can help improve the upcoming 2.6.4 release by downloading and testing this release. If you want you can report what you have done here: http://wiki.freepascal.org/Testers_2.6.4

[fpc-other] FPC 2.6.4 release!

2014-03-11 Thread Marco van de Voort
Finally, FPC 2.6.4 has landed. FPC 2.6.4 is an update to 2.6.2 and 2.6.0 that contains most library progress over the 2.6.2. It will probably conclude the 2.6.x branch. Building is still in progress and some formats (deb) and targets might not be available yet. Changes that may break backwards

Re: [fpc-other] PROLOG written in Pascal

2014-09-21 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Hans-Peter Diettrich said: I don't understand why interested people couldn't implement mark/release for the base TP compatible level of FPC ? What is so different between TP and FPC there? Perhaps it's the effort to support it for multiple architectures? Afaik

Re: [fpc-other] Anybody using ultra-wide or square monitors for programming?

2015-03-22 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: Or something like the Eizo FlexScan EV2730Q which is a 27 1920x1920 resolution monitor. Giving you back that critically important vertical space we lost since wide screen monitors got introduced.

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-15 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, vfclists . said: Now Florian, considering your preference for GUI tools, won't the development of cross platform Git GUI surpassing Tortoise Git, Github and Atlassian's tools, SmartGit and whatever be the best advert for Lazarus and FPC? There would such a major flow

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: A better metric might be finding somebody who offers a selection of VCS protocols (possibly with a common backend- I believe such things exist?) and then looking at the relative use for checkouts etc. You can start by looking at the

Re: [fpc-other] $100, 000 for C++ implementation of FPC's -CR option

2015-08-14 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR) said: Well, now all they need is a decent equivalent to Pascal's units (instead of relying on preprocessor hacks such as #include), Meet the C(++) Modules proposal: http://llvm.org/devmtg/2012-11/Gregor-Modules.pdf And Stroustrup is

Re: [fpc-other] $100, 000 for C++ implementation of FPC's -CR option

2015-08-14 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Nikolay Nikolov said: http://www.infoq.com/news/2015/04/stroustrup-cpp17-interview Yes, I know about that too, but I'm still wondering why it took so long. C++ has an everything but the kitchen sink approach, where they introduce every programming language feature

Re: [fpc-other] Git repository of FPC not syncing with SVN

2017-02-12 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Victor Campillo said: > I mostly use Git to checkout FPC development and today I saw that the > Git repository created by Graeme is not in sync with Subversion since 6 > days ago. > Graeme, could you check the issue? Considering the date, that might be the 3.0.2

Re: [fpc-other] Git repository of FPC not syncing with SVN

2017-02-12 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Victor Campillo said: > > Considering the date, that might be the 3.0.2 branching it choked on. > > So, this means that 3.0.2 will be released soon or there will be an > another RC? Relatively soon, one or two weeks, depending how building goes, final, no RC2.

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Delphi may have Linux support next year

2016-08-30 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > > > Also afaik the compiler is the same as for mobile targets, with probably the > > same limitations, and not the win32/win64 delphi compiler. > > :-/ Note that I heard this when it first came on the roadmap. I haven't seen any

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Delphi may have Linux support next year

2016-08-30 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > > What might be interesting is if the Delphi command line compiler could run > > on AMD64 Linux, but that's yet to be seen. > > [I would assume your message is off-topic, so I set the reply-to of this > message to FPC-Other] Correct. > I doubt

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Missing messages

2016-10-31 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > They even allow "limited commercial use" with it. I don't know the > details though. iirc up to Eur/$ 1000 turnover. I don't know if you can use it in a big corporation inhouse to send 3 values to your PLC via serial though (since how to

Re: [fpc-other] Your thoughts on cloud based server instances?

2017-03-11 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > > 100 bucks, I'm not complaining, since a standard T1 is only 1.54MBPS. > > Here in the UK they have been trial'ing 1Gbps fiber-to-the-home > connections in a single town for a couple months now. The rate is > ?30/month. I can't remember the

Re: [fpc-other] Anyone using Orange PI

2017-03-01 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said: > > I agree. Most of our RPis are actually running Debian, but in extremis > it's always possible to roll back to Raspbian as a baseline configuration. > > There are of course other small boards: Olimex, Odroid and now Asus. > However RPi does

Re: [fpc-other] Git & SVN

2017-05-23 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > As with any new applications or technologies, there is always some > learning curve (big or small). There are tons of bad habits ingrained in > SVN users. Those do not translate well to Git (thank goodness). Git > works fundamentally different

Re: [fpc-other] Git & SVN

2017-05-23 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said: > Now I don't deny for a moment that Git has its advantages for > distributed working. But am I correct in my understanding that it has > nothing that maps directly onto the monotonic revision list of > traditional VCSs including Subversion?

Re: [fpc-other] Git & SVN

2017-05-24 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, nore...@z505.com said: > >> impossible person is usually swiftly dealt with. > > > > > Honestly, I can't even... You sound like the Expert Beginner Twitter > > account. No personal offense intended, but you just do. > > > > He's talking about Army of Programmers in a

Re: [fpc-other] Git & SVN

2017-05-23 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR) said: > > Git just doesn't do KISS. > > You need an SVN server to start working with SVN. With Git, you go to a > directory, do "git init" and start committing. Everything is local. Not > sure how that's not KISS. (You can add a remote later,

Re: [fpc-other] Git & SVN

2017-05-23 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR) said: > > how to avoid that a push of member X doesn't leave a branch in an > > undesirable state that leaves member Y three choices: > > How to avoid that member X with commit write access doesn't leave a branch > in SVN in an undesirable

Re: [fpc-other] Git & SVN

2017-05-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Santiago A. said: > Workflows are designed according with the tools you had when you > designed it. Sometimes you improve your workflow as you improve your > knowledge of tools. And sometimes you create new tools to improve your > workflow. > > But sometimes other people

Re: [fpc-other] What makes a Compiler project (like FPC) special?

2017-05-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > > Yet the ?packages? and ?rtl? directories is just that - which by the way > is part of the FPC project. Yes, except some of the parts directly connected to the compiler and its features (like exceptions, RTTI etc) > And that is also where

Re: [fpc-other] What makes a Compiler project (like FPC) special?

2017-05-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: >Just to be clear, I'm not pushing Git here - I know you guys will >not change - Florian made that very clear. Yes, boundless leaps of faith are out of the question. Git should be a tool, not a religion. >But Florian's statements

Re: [fpc-other] Git & SVN

2017-05-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Florian Kl?mpfl said: > > donate a month of our time. > > Indeed, it depends on the person who does it. It requires knowledge about the > specific workflow > requirements of a compiler project. And that this is not easy is proven by > the fact that gcc as well > as

Re: [fpc-other] Git & SVN

2017-05-24 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Florian Kl?mpfl said: > > If you haven't found the Git project documentation on this workflow, I'll > > find it for you and post > > the URL. > > The workflow will not change. If the tool does not fit the workflow, it is > the wrong tool. Period. Even if we will change

Re: [fpc-other] Object Pascal Interface Delegation, but in Java

2017-09-09 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > > Does anybody familiar with Object Pascal and Java know if Java supports > something similar to Object Pascal's Interface Delegation "implements > syntax" functionality? That is often called delegation, and if you search for java and

Re: [fpc-other] Object Pascal Interface Delegation, but in Java

2017-09-09 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > > That is often called delegation, and if you search for java and delegation, > > it seems not (which is not THAT surprising IMHO): > > Thanks Marco. So it is actually similar to Object Pascal where you use > object composition, but with Object

Re: [fpc-other] Firebird vs PostgreSQL

2017-10-26 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Santiago A. said: > That's my point. Why Firebird is not more popular? > > Once I read two point about Firebird lack of popularity: > * In early days, firebird documentation was almost inexistent, there > were a few .txt with new features but you had to rely on Interbase

Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-06 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said: > > What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will beowned > > and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.I guess > > I'll be doing what the Free Pascal project has done all along...Host my own > >

Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will be > owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook. Well, there is always Amazon and Oracle :-) ___

Re: [fpc-other] Delphi 10.4

2020-04-11 Thread Marco van de Voort
Op 2020-04-11 om 14:45 schreef Sven Barth via fpc-other: 2: management operators for records, maybe also simple record inheritance to reuse e.g. a refcount record pattern Yay me, we got something incompatible again... 3: (also?) having some of the iOS refcounted classes system for the

[fpc-other] Delphi 10.4

2020-03-27 Thread Marco van de Voort
Some early info about new Delphi 10.4 features https://community.idera.com/developer-tools/b/blog/posts/get-ready-for-the-10-4-beta-with-update-subscription 1 Language Server Protocol for Delphi 2 Language Enhancements: Managed Records 3 Unified memory management across all platforms my

Re: [fpc-other] ARM is the future of desktop

2020-07-04 Thread Marco van de Voort
Op 2020-07-04 om 23:14 schreef Sven Barth via fpc-other: Here is an interesting article by a ex-windows boss. He thinks that in a few years even desktops will be ARM and Intel will be residual. And obviously it will be a mayor problem to Microsoft, whose software is very tied to Intel

Re: [fpc-other] PostgreSQL index tuning

2021-09-25 Thread Marco van de Voort via fpc-other
Op 25-9-2021 om 16:00 schreef Graeme Geldenhuys via fpc-other: Does anybody know if there is a tool I could use to analyse queries to a PostgreSQL database, so I could tune it's performance. eg: detect table scans in the execution plan, suggest creating, dropping or altering indexes etc. MS

Re: [fpc-other] I thought it was going to get better, but no

2023-04-28 Thread Marco van de Voort via fpc-other
On 28-4-2023 23:20, Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-other wrote: After reading this email that I am replying to here, and revisiting the #fpc logs, the only conclusion I can make is that Nikolay Nikolov == "Joanna". Are you joking? I actually smiled. Let's just say that what I see from Joanna