Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-19 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 19/05/17 16:15, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:
> Am 19.05.2017 14:53 schrieb "Lukasz Sokol"
>  >:
>> 
>> On 19/05/17 13:33, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:
>> 
> You don't have to build a 32-bit FPC because an official 
> released installer exists. So this is no problem at all. But 
> seeing as pretty much everything is moving (or already has
> moved) to 64-bit, why bother with 32-bit these days.
> [referring to desktop and server applications - not embedded
> devices]
> 
 
 Is there a way for native 64bit application to load a 32bit 
 library, that then can talk to a 32bit USB driver ? (on
 Windows)
>>> 
>>> Drivers (at least kernel mode drivers) must be 64-bit on 64-bit 
>>> Windows (and also basically every other system I'm aware of).
>>> However it's perfectly possible to talk with a 64-bit driver from
>>> a 32-bit application. And no, you can't load a 32-library from a
>>> 64-bit process.
>> 
>> This one is not a kernel-mode (at least so I think because the
>> same installation succeeds both on 32bit XPSP3, and in recent Win10
>> 64bit)...
>> 
>> (it's the old old Microchip MCHPFUSB driver used e.g. with
>> PIC18F4550, driver version 1.3; it's probably not as much a
>> 'driver' as a way to register the PID and VID with the system, more
>> or less; but the library interfacing it, is 32bit only)
> 
> From what I can see from their site version 1.3 is the first that
> supports 64-bit and it indeed includes a 64-bit driver (and a 32-bit
> one as well). Also if I understand that correctly the source and API
> information to access the driver is provided as well, so you could
> either compile the library for 64-bit or port it to FPC to solve
> this.
> 

Thanks for diving into this :) even though you didn't have to.

Confirmed, the distribution of this driver I am using, 
does contain the 64bit .sys file... and the source code (made in Borland C)
for the .dll. They only provided precompiled 32bit dll by default though. 
At least in the download I currently use.

I will come back to this, when I have some time freed after the current 32bit
backend I am writing now, hits a certain milestone ;)

> Regards, Sven

Kind Regards
-L.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-19 Thread Sven Barth via fpc-pascal
Am 19.05.2017 14:53 schrieb "Lukasz Sokol" :
>
> On 19/05/17 13:33, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:
>
> >>> You don't have to build a 32-bit FPC because an official
> >>> released installer exists. So this is no problem at all. But
> >>> seeing as pretty much everything is moving (or already has moved)
> >>> to 64-bit, why bother with 32-bit these days. [referring to
> >>> desktop and server applications - not embedded devices]
> >>>
> >>
> >> Is there a way for native 64bit application to load a 32bit
> >> library, that then can talk to a 32bit USB driver ? (on Windows)
> >
> > Drivers (at least kernel mode drivers) must be 64-bit on 64-bit
> > Windows (and also basically every other system I'm aware of). However
> > it's perfectly possible to talk with a 64-bit driver from a 32-bit
> > application. And no, you can't load a 32-library from a 64-bit
> > process.
>
> This one is not a kernel-mode (at least so I think because the same
> installation succeeds both on 32bit XPSP3, and in recent Win10 64bit)...
>
> (it's the old old Microchip MCHPFUSB driver used e.g. with PIC18F4550,
driver version 1.3;
>  it's probably not as much a 'driver' as a way to register the PID and
VID with the system,
>  more or less; but the library interfacing it, is 32bit only)

>From what I can see from their site version 1.3 is the first that supports
64-bit and it indeed includes a 64-bit driver (and a 32-bit one as well).
Also if I understand that correctly the source and API information to
access the driver is provided as well, so you could either compile the
library for 64-bit or port it to FPC to solve this.

Regards,
Sven
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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-19 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 19/05/17 13:33, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:

>>> You don't have to build a 32-bit FPC because an official
>>> released installer exists. So this is no problem at all. But
>>> seeing as pretty much everything is moving (or already has moved)
>>> to 64-bit, why bother with 32-bit these days. [referring to
>>> desktop and server applications - not embedded devices]
>>> 
>> 
>> Is there a way for native 64bit application to load a 32bit
>> library, that then can talk to a 32bit USB driver ? (on Windows)
> 
> Drivers (at least kernel mode drivers) must be 64-bit on 64-bit
> Windows (and also basically every other system I'm aware of). However
> it's perfectly possible to talk with a 64-bit driver from a 32-bit
> application. And no, you can't load a 32-library from a 64-bit
> process.

This one is not a kernel-mode (at least so I think because the same
installation succeeds both on 32bit XPSP3, and in recent Win10 64bit)...

(it's the old old Microchip MCHPFUSB driver used e.g. with PIC18F4550, driver 
version 1.3;
 it's probably not as much a 'driver' as a way to register the PID and VID with 
the system,
 more or less; but the library interfacing it, is 32bit only)

-L.

> 
> Regards, Sven
> 
> 
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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-19 Thread Sven Barth via fpc-pascal
Am 19.05.2017 13:54 schrieb "Lukasz Sokol" :
>
> On 19/05/17 11:15, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> > On 2017-05-19 00:38, Nikolay Nikolov wrote:
> >> windows OS - there are simply no known issues with that under any
> >> 64-bit windows version that I know of. snip... It won't work
> >> from the IDE, though, but compiling your program from the command
> >> line, when you want to build a 64-bit .exe shouldn't be hard.
> >
> > So you are contradicting your self a bit. No known problems, and then
> > two paragraphs later... but there is this known problem with the IDE.
> > ;-)
> >
> >
> >> Because it is inferior, since it cannot build a 32-bit FPC.
> >
> > You don't have to build a 32-bit FPC because an official released
> > installer exists. So this is no problem at all. But seeing as pretty
> > much everything is moving (or already has moved) to 64-bit, why
> > bother with 32-bit these days. [referring to desktop and server
> > applications - not embedded devices]
> >
>
> Is there a way for native 64bit application to load a 32bit library,
> that then can talk to a 32bit USB driver ?
> (on Windows)

Drivers (at least kernel mode drivers) must be 64-bit on 64-bit Windows
(and also basically every other system I'm aware of).
However it's perfectly possible to talk with a 64-bit driver from a 32-bit
application.
And no, you can't load a 32-library from a 64-bit process.

Regards,
Sven
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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-19 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 19/05/17 11:15, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> On 2017-05-19 00:38, Nikolay Nikolov wrote:
>> windows OS - there are simply no known issues with that under any
>> 64-bit windows version that I know of. snip... It won't work
>> from the IDE, though, but compiling your program from the command
>> line, when you want to build a 64-bit .exe shouldn't be hard.
> 
> So you are contradicting your self a bit. No known problems, and then
> two paragraphs later... but there is this known problem with the IDE.
> ;-)
> 
> 
>> Because it is inferior, since it cannot build a 32-bit FPC.
> 
> You don't have to build a 32-bit FPC because an official released
> installer exists. So this is no problem at all. But seeing as pretty
> much everything is moving (or already has moved) to 64-bit, why
> bother with 32-bit these days. [referring to desktop and server
> applications - not embedded devices]
> 

Is there a way for native 64bit application to load a 32bit library,
that then can talk to a 32bit USB driver ?
(on Windows)

-L.

> 
> 
> Regards, Graeme
> 


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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys

On 2017-05-18 23:14, James Richters wrote:

That would be very much appreciated,



  http://geldenhuys.co.uk/~graemeg/fpc-3.0.2-win64.7z

It's a 53MB download. It includes the 3.0.2 64-bit Windows compiler and 
source code, as well as the binutils and the go.bat batch file I used to 
compile the 3.0.2 version.


NOTE:
  Not quite ideal, but the fpc.cfg file is referencing the FPC locations
  as c:\lazarus\fpc\\
  So if you unpack this archive to any other location, please adjust the
  paths in the fpc.cfg file. For some reason the Windows VM I used
  installed FPC inside the c:\Lazarus directory. Normally I use c:\fpc\
  instead.

Regards,
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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys

On 2017-05-19 00:38, Nikolay Nikolov wrote:

windows OS - there are simply no known issues with that under any 64-bit
windows version that I know of.
snip...
It won't work from the
IDE, though, but compiling your program from the command line, when you
want to build a 64-bit .exe shouldn't be hard.


So you are contradicting your self a bit. No known problems, and then 
two paragraphs later... but there is this known problem with the IDE. ;-)




Because it is inferior, since it cannot build a 32-bit FPC.


You don't have to build a 32-bit FPC because an official released 
installer exists.
So this is no problem at all. But seeing as pretty much everything is 
moving (or already has moved) to 64-bit, why bother with 32-bit these 
days. [referring to desktop and server applications - not embedded devices]




Regards,
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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-19 Thread Sven Barth via fpc-pascal
Am 19.05.2017 02:22 schrieb "James Richters" :
>
> Thank you for the explanation.  I didn't really understand how to use the
cross compiler.
>
> I have installed the cross compiler and tried to compile my program with
>
> ppcrossx64 program.pas
>
> but I get
> PaStep.pas(3,98) Fatal: Can't find unit smtpsend used by PAStep
>
> Smtpsend is part of synapse...   I was going to try to copy the library
to the x86_64-win64 folder but then I thought, wait a minute, I will need
the 64bit library to get this to work...  but it looks to me like Synapse
has only support for Win32.  So maybe I'm out of luck with a 64bit version
if I'm going to use Synapse, unless the cross compiler will take care of
this for me?  Anyone know about this?

You'll need to compile synapse from source then using the cross compiler (I
doubt that they don't support Win64).

Btw: instead of calling "ppcross64.exe ..." you can also use "fpc -Px86_64
..."

Regards,
Sven
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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-18 Thread James Richters
Thank you for the explanation.  I didn't really understand how to use the cross 
compiler.

I have installed the cross compiler and tried to compile my program with 

ppcrossx64 program.pas

but I get
PaStep.pas(3,98) Fatal: Can't find unit smtpsend used by PAStep

Smtpsend is part of synapse...   I was going to try to copy the library to the 
x86_64-win64 folder but then I thought, wait a minute, I will need the 64bit 
library to get this to work...  but it looks to me like Synapse has only 
support for Win32.  So maybe I'm out of luck with a 64bit version if I'm going 
to use Synapse, unless the cross compiler will take care of this for me?  
Anyone know about this?   

I'm not sure I really need to compile a 64bit version for any reason, it's just 
I don't plan to ever run the program on a 32bit machine, so I'm thinking if I 
have a 64bit machine I might as well have a 64bit program as well and thought 
it might offer a performance advantage.

James

-Original Message-
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Nikolay Nikolov
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:39 PM
To: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org
Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows



On 05/15/2017 02:41 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> On 2017-05-15 11:59, James Richters wrote:
>> When I try to install 64 bit windows
>> version, I don't have this anymore
>
> The Free Pascal project, for some weird reason, only ships a 64-bit 
> Windows cross-compiler. So you need both the 32-bit and 64-bit 
> installs. I don't know why they do this.
Is there an _actual_ problem with that, or is it only imaginary? The
32-to-64 crosscompiler works perfectly fine and has no known disadvantages. On 
the other hand, the 64-bit compiler cannot crosscompile 32-bit fpc, because it 
doesn't support the 80-bit extended float type, which is only supported by the 
x87 FPU, but not by SSE. So, basically, if you're a FPC compiler developer and 
you're using windows as your main platform, the 64-bit native fpc is inferior. 
And I don't think anyone has a problem running a 32-bit hosted compiler on a 
64-bit windows OS - there are simply no known issues with that under any 64-bit 
windows version that I know of.
>
> Simply compile your own _full_ 64-bit FPC, by installing a previous or 
> current stable 32-bit release. Download the latest stable release 
> source code. And then build a new 64-bit target compiler and tools.
Or, alternatively, you can simply install the 32-bit to 64-bit crosscompiler on 
top of your already working install and then crosscompile from the commandline 
with:

  ppcrossx64 program.pas

without any need to compile fpc from sources. It won't work from the IDE, 
though, but compiling your program from the command line, when you want to 
build a 64-bit .exe shouldn't be hard.

Of course, there's no problem in following Graeme's route and compiling the 
compiler yourself (and it might be helpful in the long run to learn how to 
compile the compiler), but installing the already packaged
32-to-64 crosscompiler package might be easier to start with.
>
> It might sound complicate, but the process is pretty easy. Here is a 
> batch file I normally use to do this for me.
>
>
> ...
>
> But again, I don't know why the FPC team doesn't make an official full 
> 64-bit Windows release??
Because it is inferior, since it cannot build a 32-bit FPC. Imagine your advice 
for compiling the 64-bit native compiler, using the 32-bit starting compiler. 
What would happen if you had to go the other way around? Your advice only 
works, because the 32-bit compiler can compile both the 32-bit and 64-bit 
version of FPC. If you were to start with the 64-bit version, it won't be able 
to compile the 32-bit version (under windows, that is; under linux, it works, 
because 64-bit linux has abi support for the 80-bit extended x87 fpu type and 
there we usually ship a native 64-bit compiler). It may not matter for you, but 
is a huge showstopper for any FPC compiler developer that uses Windows.

Nikolay
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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-18 Thread Nikolay Nikolov



On 05/15/2017 02:41 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

On 2017-05-15 11:59, James Richters wrote:

When I try to install 64 bit windows
version, I don't have this anymore


The Free Pascal project, for some weird reason, only ships a 64-bit 
Windows cross-compiler. So you need both the 32-bit and 64-bit 
installs. I don't know why they do this.
Is there an _actual_ problem with that, or is it only imaginary? The 
32-to-64 crosscompiler works perfectly fine and has no known 
disadvantages. On the other hand, the 64-bit compiler cannot 
crosscompile 32-bit fpc, because it doesn't support the 80-bit extended 
float type, which is only supported by the x87 FPU, but not by SSE. So, 
basically, if you're a FPC compiler developer and you're using windows 
as your main platform, the 64-bit native fpc is inferior. And I don't 
think anyone has a problem running a 32-bit hosted compiler on a 64-bit 
windows OS - there are simply no known issues with that under any 64-bit 
windows version that I know of.


Simply compile your own _full_ 64-bit FPC, by installing a previous or 
current stable 32-bit release. Download the latest stable release 
source code. And then build a new 64-bit target compiler and tools.
Or, alternatively, you can simply install the 32-bit to 64-bit 
crosscompiler on top of your already working install and then 
crosscompile from the commandline with:


 ppcrossx64 program.pas

without any need to compile fpc from sources. It won't work from the 
IDE, though, but compiling your program from the command line, when you 
want to build a 64-bit .exe shouldn't be hard.


Of course, there's no problem in following Graeme's route and compiling 
the compiler yourself (and it might be helpful in the long run to learn 
how to compile the compiler), but installing the already packaged 
32-to-64 crosscompiler package might be easier to start with.


It might sound complicate, but the process is pretty easy. Here is a 
batch file I normally use to do this for me.



...

But again, I don't know why the FPC team doesn't make an official full 
64-bit Windows release??
Because it is inferior, since it cannot build a 32-bit FPC. Imagine your 
advice for compiling the 64-bit native compiler, using the 32-bit 
starting compiler. What would happen if you had to go the other way 
around? Your advice only works, because the 32-bit compiler can compile 
both the 32-bit and 64-bit version of FPC. If you were to start with the 
64-bit version, it won't be able to compile the 32-bit version (under 
windows, that is; under linux, it works, because 64-bit linux has abi 
support for the 80-bit extended x87 fpu type and there we usually ship a 
native 64-bit compiler). It may not matter for you, but is a huge 
showstopper for any FPC compiler developer that uses Windows.


Nikolay
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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-18 Thread James Richters
That would be very much appreciated, I don't know why I have such difficulty 
with this.

James

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Graeme Geldenhuys
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:02 PM
To: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org
Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

On 2017-05-18 22:53, James Richters wrote:
> Is there an easier way to generate a 64bit executable for windows than to 
> compile this myself?

I can zip up my 64-bit FPC 3.0.2 directory and make it available for 
_unofficial_ download if that will help. Let me know, and I'll post a link to 
the download.

Regards,
   Graeme

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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys

On 2017-05-18 22:53, James Richters wrote:

Is there an easier way to generate a 64bit executable for windows than to 
compile this myself?


I can zip up my 64-bit FPC 3.0.2 directory and make it available for 
_unofficial_ download if that will help. Let me know, and I'll post a 
link to the download.


Regards,
  Graeme

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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-18 Thread James Richters
I still haven't figured out how to do this.  Is there an easier way to generate 
a 64bit executable for windows than to compile this myself?

I've downloaded fpc-3.0.2.source.zip but I think I'm still not getting the 
directories right or something.   Are there instructions somewhere on how to do 
this?

When I try to do the "Make Clean"  I get
Makefile:29: *** You need the GNU utils package to use this Makefile.  Stop.

I think I am missing something somehow.

James



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Graeme Geldenhuys
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:57 PM
To: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org
Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

On 2017-05-15 18:19, James Richters wrote:
> Could you please give me a link to download 3.0.2 source archive?
> I'm on the FPC sourceforge page but I'm very confused as to what is 
> what.


All downloads can be found from here:

   https://sourceforge.net/projects/freepascal/files/

 From there you click "Source" and then "3.0.2".  ;)

   https://sourceforge.net/projects/freepascal/files/Source/3.0.2/

For Windows you probably want the .zip file so look for:

fpc-3.0.2.source.zip

For Linux/FreeBSD/*nix you probably want the .tar.gz file so look for:

fpc-3.0.2.source.tar.gz

But in actual fact, the FPC compiler will compile either of them without 
problems. I ofter share a source archive between my Linux and Windows VMs.


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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-15 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys

On 2017-05-15 18:19, James Richters wrote:

Could you please give me a link to download 3.0.2 source archive?
I'm on the FPC sourceforge page but I'm very confused as to what is
what.



All downloads can be found from here:

  https://sourceforge.net/projects/freepascal/files/

From there you click "Source" and then "3.0.2".  ;)

  https://sourceforge.net/projects/freepascal/files/Source/3.0.2/

For Windows you probably want the .zip file so look for:

   fpc-3.0.2.source.zip

For Linux/FreeBSD/*nix you probably want the .tar.gz file so look for:

   fpc-3.0.2.source.tar.gz

But in actual fact, the FPC compiler will compile either of them without 
problems. I ofter share a source archive between my Linux and Windows VMs.



Regards,
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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-15 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys

On 2017-05-15 16:57, James Richters wrote:

I'm not quite following your batch file.  I have no 'src' directory,
where is that supposed to be?


If you want the FPC 3.0.2 version, then download the official source 
archive for the 3.0.2 release from FPC's SourceForge page.




Here is where I am at: I have just downloaded your repo at
https://github.com/graemeg/freepascal  and I have it saved at


That repo only tracks the Trunk (unstable) branch. So if you want the 
source code of a stable release, download the archive from SourceForge.



'J:\Programming\FreePascal'   Is there a better place to download the
x86 64bit source?


I normally order my directories as follows:

  c:\FPC
   \2.6.4\
  \src
  \i386-win32
 \bin
 \lib
 \share
  \x86_64-win64
 \bin
 \lib
 \share
   \3.0.2\
  \src
  \i386-win32
 \bin
 \lib
 \share
  \x86_64-win64
 \bin
 \lib
 \share

So a source archive will be unpacked in the correct "src" directory. 
This setup also allows me to have a single global fpc.cfg file for all 
FPC versions. The paths in that fpc.cfg file uses FPC's macros to expand 
to the correct versions.


My Linux and FreeBSD systems have a similar layout.



What directory do I put 'go.bat'


It will go in the c:\fpc\\ directory.  But it doesn't really 
matter, as long as you adjust the paths inside the patch file to match 
your environment.



 Where am I setting Install_prefix?

Is that where I put the source code or where I want the compiled
version to go?


That's where the new compiled version will go. So if you use FPC 2.6.4 
to build a new 3.0.0 compiler, then the install prefix will translate to 
the path:  c:\fpc\3.0.0\x86_64-win64\



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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-15 Thread James Richters
I'm not quite following your batch file.  I have no 'src' directory, where is 
that supposed to be?

Here is where I am at:
I have just downloaded your repo at https://github.com/graemeg/freepascal  and 
I have it saved at 'J:\Programming\FreePascal'   Is there a better place to 
download the x86 64bit source?

My existing 32bit freepascal compiler I have been using is installed at 
'J:\Programming\FPCWin' I believe it's V3.0.0

What directory do I put 'go.bat' 
Where am I setting Install_prefix?  Is that where I put the source code or 
where I want the compiled version to go?

Thanks for the help!

Jim


=[ go.bat ]
set TARGET=x86_64-win64
set COMPILER=J:\Programming\FPCwin\fpc.exe
set NEWFPC=3.0.2

cd src
make clean

make all FPC=%COMPILER%
rem OPT="-Fl/usr/local/lib"

make install INSTALL_PREFIX=c:\lazarus\fpc\%NEWFPC%\%TARGET% FPC=%COMPILER%
cd ..
==

-Original Message-
From: fpc-pascal [mailto:fpc-pascal-boun...@lists.freepascal.org] On Behalf Of 
Graeme Geldenhuys
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 7:41 AM
To: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org
Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

On 2017-05-15 11:59, James Richters wrote:
> When I try to install 64 bit windows
> version, I don't have this anymore

The Free Pascal project, for some weird reason, only ships a 64-bit Windows 
cross-compiler. So you need both the 32-bit and 64-bit installs. 
I don't know why they do this.

Simply compile your own _full_ 64-bit FPC, by installing a previous or current 
stable 32-bit release. Download the latest stable release source code. And then 
build a new 64-bit target compiler and tools.

It might sound complicate, but the process is pretty easy. Here is a batch file 
I normally use to do this for me.


=[ go.bat ]
set TARGET=x86_64-win64
set COMPILER=c:\lazarus\fpc\2.6.2\bin\x86_64-win64\fpc.exe
set NEWFPC=2.6.4

cd src
make clean

make all FPC=%COMPILER%
rem OPT="-Fl/usr/local/lib"

make install INSTALL_PREFIX=c:\lazarus\fpc\%NEWFPC%\%TARGET% FPC=%COMPILER%

cd ..
==

Adjust the paths and versions to match your environment.

But again, I don't know why the FPC team doesn't make an official full 
64-bit Windows release??

Regards,
   Graeme

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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-15 Thread Michael Van Canneyt



On Mon, 15 May 2017, wkitt...@windstream.net wrote:


On 05/15/2017 07:41 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
But again, I don't know why the FPC team doesn't make an official full 

64-bit

Windows release??


IIRC, they say it is because 32bit winwhatever stuff will run on 64bit 
winwhatever stuff and because of that there's no real reason to build 64bit 
only... kinda makes one wonder what will happen when m$ remove 32bit 
capability  like they have 16bit capability...


Then we'll simply ship 64-bit executables.

Michael.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-15 Thread wkitty42

On 05/15/2017 07:41 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

But again, I don't know why the FPC team doesn't make an official full 64-bit
Windows release??


IIRC, they say it is because 32bit winwhatever stuff will run on 64bit 
winwhatever stuff and because of that there's no real reason to build 64bit 
only... kinda makes one wonder what will happen when m$ remove 32bit capability 
like they have 16bit capability...



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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 64bit for windows

2017-05-15 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys

On 2017-05-15 11:59, James Richters wrote:

When I try to install 64 bit windows
version, I don't have this anymore


The Free Pascal project, for some weird reason, only ships a 64-bit 
Windows cross-compiler. So you need both the 32-bit and 64-bit installs. 
I don't know why they do this.


Simply compile your own _full_ 64-bit FPC, by installing a previous or 
current stable 32-bit release. Download the latest stable release source 
code. And then build a new 64-bit target compiler and tools.


It might sound complicate, but the process is pretty easy. Here is a 
batch file I normally use to do this for me.



=[ go.bat ]
set TARGET=x86_64-win64
set COMPILER=c:\lazarus\fpc\2.6.2\bin\x86_64-win64\fpc.exe
set NEWFPC=2.6.4

cd src
make clean

make all FPC=%COMPILER%
rem OPT="-Fl/usr/local/lib"

make install INSTALL_PREFIX=c:\lazarus\fpc\%NEWFPC%\%TARGET% FPC=%COMPILER%

cd ..
==

Adjust the paths and versions to match your environment.

But again, I don't know why the FPC team doesn't make an official full 
64-bit Windows release??


Regards,
  Graeme

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