[Framers] making a table row conditional

2022-07-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
Can recent releases of FrameMaker exclude a table row from output using conditional text? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives

Re: [Framers] activation dialog for old Adobe software

2022-06-14 Thread Robert Lauriston
ve a special department for old people, but they sent me a download link and license for Acrobat X so I'm in good shape. On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 2:13 PM Robert Lauriston wrote: > Not true. It was working fine on this PC for four years. That's no excuse > for invalidating the license anyway.

Re: [Framers] Including a "Subject" in an e-mail link

2022-04-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
Except for "message URL" the mailto link is standard stuff, nothing specific to FrameMaker. There are lots of tutorials, references, etc. online: https://www.google.com/search?q=mailto+links On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 4:30 PM wrote: > > Hi Alison, > > Yes you can. Here is an example of the format

Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] Read the Docs?

2022-03-28 Thread Robert Lauriston
It looks pretty slick, but since I need pretty heavy reuse I wouldn't use any tool that uses Markdown as its source format. I'd also prefer Asciidoc or DocBook over reStructuredText. On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 5:56 AM Art Campbell wrote: > > Anyone using, evaluating, or migrating Frame docs to

Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

2022-03-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
inal Message- > From: Framers On > Behalf Of Robert Lauriston > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 2:08 PM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App > > Also, if you're writing DITA, w

Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

2022-03-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
Also, if you're writing DITA, why use FrameMaker rather than Oxygen? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at

Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

2022-03-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
https://www.w3schools.com/xml/xsl_intro.asp Click Next near the bottom to page through the tutorial. If you're creating XSLT transformations, consider whether there's any reason to import it into FrameMaker. When I used XSLT to document something similar I just went straight to a standalone HTML

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker to Robohelp Integration

2022-03-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
I wouldn't bother looking at WebWorks if RoboHelp's output is acceptable. At my last job we switched because RoboHelp output looked lousy and there was browser-specific bugs Adobe didn't fix, but that was RH9 ten years ago. WebWorks' HTML output looked much better and seemed bug-free. It was

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker to Robohelp Integration

2022-03-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
integrated authoring environment might be attractive. > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 3:27 PM Robert Lauriston > wrote: > > > FrameMaker's multichannel publishing is a subset of RoboHelp features. > > If that subset meets your needs, you don't need RoboHelp. > > >

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker to Robohelp Integration

2022-03-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
FrameMaker's multichannel publishing is a subset of RoboHelp features. If that subset meets your needs, you don't need RoboHelp. I don't think the integration options have changed since I was using them at my last job. Adobe documents importing FrameMaker into RoboHelp, but I don't see that they

Re: [Framers] (no subject)

2022-03-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
I don't think you can. FrameMaker's multichannel output is a subset of RoboHelp features. RoboHelp has Metadata properties for PDF output but not for HTML output. https://helpx.adobe.com/robohelp/using/generate-pdf-output.html

Re: [Framers] Working on external USB drives Re: FM2019 and gremlins

2022-02-24 Thread Robert Lauriston
There's no difference so far as an application is concerned. On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:18 AM Craig Ede wrote: > > Are we talking about working on USB hard drives or USB thumb drives? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to

Re: [Framers] Question about FrameMaker subscription less than a full year

2022-02-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
, other than your past experience and familiarity, why FM? Is there > employment demand in your area? > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2022, 5:57 PM Robert Lauriston wrote: > > > Academic discount aside, FrameMaker's pretty far down on the list of > > things I'd recommend a tech writ

Re: [Framers] Question about FrameMaker subscription less than a full year

2022-02-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
Academic discount aside, FrameMaker's pretty far down on the list of things I'd recommend a tech writing student study today. On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 1:37 PM wrote: > > Hello! This is my first post to this list. I teach tech writers at Austin > Community College (Texas). For years I taught a

Re: [Framers] elusive transparent background

2022-02-01 Thread Robert Lauriston
You just need to use Export As instead of Save in Photoshop. Then you get a Transparency option. On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 5:15 PM Robert Lauriston wrote: > > https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/importing-pngs-with-transparent-backgrounds/m-p/9875581 > > On

Re: [Framers] elusive transparent background

2022-01-31 Thread Robert Lauriston
https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/importing-pngs-with-transparent-backgrounds/m-p/9875581 On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 1:28 PM Ken Poshedly wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > Here's my predicament. I'm using FM 10.0 (which I own), Adobe Acrobat Pro > Version 9.0 (which I also own)

Re: [Framers] An article that mentions FrameMaker

2022-01-14 Thread Robert Lauriston
Acrobat came out in 1993, but I can't remember if it had hyperlinks, let alone whether they were blue. On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 6:33 PM wrote: > > Here is a link to an interesting article that mentions FrameMaker and shows > a screenshot of version 3.0: > >

Re: [Framers] Frame vs InDesign

2021-11-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
It occurs to me that FrameMaker's Word export has reportedly been much improved in recent releases. InDesign's was always excellent, that's how most layout pros get the content they place in ID. So I'd install a free trial of ID and try FM > Word > ID.

Re: [Framers] Frame vs InDesign

2021-11-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
InDesign has been the standard in book publishing and color prepress since it pushed Quark out. It's great at generating TOCs and indexes. PDFs are as good as they get, that's the format graphics professionals use to send books etc. to the printer. You can read up on links and cross-references in

Re: [Framers] Error Message Explanation

2021-11-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
This amusing article about more or less extinct image formats reminded me of this thread. https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7vax4/10-image-file-formats-that-time-forgot ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to

Re: [Framers] activation dialog for old Adobe software

2021-11-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
That doesn't mean they can disable software I paid for. On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 2:17 PM Fred Ridder wrote: > > More to the point, Adobe support for the 8.x Acrobat generation officially > ended in November 2011, a full decade ago. ___ This message is

Re: [Framers] activation dialog for old Adobe software

2021-11-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
ou'll either > have to subscribe to Acrobat or find another product. > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 2:41 PM Robert Lauriston > wrote: > > > This is for Acrobat Standard 8.0 but I figure the issue's the same as > > for FrameMaker. > > > > I've had this on

[Framers] activation dialog for old Adobe software

2021-11-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
This is for Acrobat Standard 8.0 but I figure the issue's the same as for FrameMaker. I've had this on my Windows 7 (now 10) system for four years without trouble. A few weeks ago I installed Acrobat Reader because some downloaded PDFs are not compatible. Today I got an activation dialog that

Re: [Framers] Purchase options

2021-11-10 Thread Robert Lauriston
FM is still locally installed single-user Windows software. It's in no way a cloud application. On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 8:59 AM Spencer Rugaber wrote: > > I had a look at the Adobe site this morning investigating upgrading my > legacy licensed version (v.5.5.6). However, all I saw was a

Re: [Framers] Error Message Explanation

2021-11-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
>From what Spencer has reported, it seems like there are post-1998 flavors of .gif that 5.5.6 can't import. There's more to it than the file extension. On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 10:27 AM Peter Gold wrote: > > Thanks for doing the research. This closes the open-ended mystery. > > So, to continue

Re: [Framers] Error Message Explanation

2021-11-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
That's what I've been telling you. You're using 5.5.6, a release that's 23 years old this month. Of course it can't import a lot of formats created later. Which includes variants of formats such as .jpg, .gif, .bmp that did exist back then. I would not expect Adobe to make any statements about

Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 187, Issue 17

2021-10-26 Thread Robert Lauriston
ight mean? Is there any way to ask > Adobe? > > Thanks. > > Spencer > --- > > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 02:07:03 + > > From: Craig Ede > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. >

Re: [Framers] Error Message Explanation (Robert Lauriston); Framers Digest, Vol 187, Issue 16

2021-10-26 Thread Robert Lauriston
FM 5.5.6 was released in November 1998. Do you have some old FrameMaker projects with image files of the same vintage? If so, see if you can reproduce the import error with any of them. If you can't, that strongly suggests that you're trying to import images in updated formats that 5.5.6 doesn't

Re: [Framers] Error Message Explanation

2021-10-25 Thread Robert Lauriston
Try importing by reference. Even back in 5.5.6 didn't FM create a frame automatically? Which version of which operating system and what exact version of FM? On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 10:25 AM Spencer Rugaber wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a legacy version of Framemaker (v5) and a collection of .fm

Re: [Framers] super-slow tagged FrameMaker Help PDF

2021-10-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
Did you download framemaker_help.pdf from https://www.adobe.com/go/learn_fm16_ug_pdf_en ? I have gigabit internet, so downloading was almost instant, but it took two or three minutes to open in Acrobat Pro DC, and 20 minutes later it still hasn't finished saving as reduced file size. On Fri, Oct

Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Re: Contents of Framers digest... Why so many of us feel the way we do....

2021-10-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
They didn't know better than to create created a tagged PDF? Yikes. That's not as bad as the time they shipped a new version of FrameMaker that wouldn't run unless it was installed in the root of the c: drive. On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 10:52 PM Gust, Dieter wrote: > > Winfried wrote: "You can

Re: [Framers] Contents of Framers digest... Why so many of us feel the way we do....

2021-10-20 Thread Robert Lauriston
You can pay all at once or monthly, but FrameMaker subscriptions are annual. On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:50 AM Peter Gold wrote: > > ... To quote a spokes-emu, "Only subscribe for when you need." ... ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list

Re: [Framers] Contents of Framers digest... Why so many of us feel the way we do....

2021-10-20 Thread Robert Lauriston
For software companies, one big plus for a subscription model is that they only need to support the latest version. On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 6:20 AM Dennis Hays wrote: > > ... I am not happy with the subscription model as I believe it's an > egregious affront to hold the software hostage when

Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

2021-10-19 Thread Robert Lauriston
I suspect the main reason Adobe did not discontinue FrameMaker 20 years ago and has continued to sell it is the significant revenue streams from large customers such as Boeing who built complex toolchains using structured FrameMaker and the Framemaker development kit.

Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

2021-10-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
The current $360 annual subscription price is lower than the old annual maintenance charge, which was 50% of the cost for a new license. On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 12:27 AM Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > > ... I think when Adobe charged less for upgrades people had more tolerance > for Adobe not fixing

Re: [Framers] Stefan wanted to know why so many of us Adobe users "feel" the way we do about Adobe

2021-10-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
Circa 1981 Charles Corfield pitched his idea for an "industrial-strength WYSIWYG word processor" to Sun, which lent him a workstation. https://www.adobe.com/content/dam/acom/en/products/framemaker/whitepapers/25_Years_of_Adobe_Framemaker.pdf On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 10:00 AM Peter Gold wrote: >

Re: [Framers] Other tools

2021-10-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
Flare's arguably the best alternative to FrameMaker. If your .fm files are formatted consistently, little or no cleanup may be required after import. On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 11:49 PM Caroline Tabach wrote: > > Someone said they hesitated to recommend Frame because of recent > installation

Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

2021-10-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
You can't buy FrameMaker any more. Subscription only. $360 a year is quite cheap compared with other tools. I'm paying a little over $3,000 a year for Paligo. Flare is $2,000. PDF's still a customer requirement for many products, but the other single-sourcing tools I've used all produce

Re: [Framers] Windows 11 compatibility?

2021-10-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/08/28/microsofts-loophole-will-allow-windows-11-on-unsupported-hardware/ On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 3:23 PM wrote: > > ... MS put out 11 to appease its hardware partners and force the buying of > more hardware for folks who want to upgrade. ...

Re: [Framers] Windows 11 compatibility?

2021-10-05 Thread Robert Lauriston
My almost-five-year-old Dell Optiplex 7010 is per Microsoft's utility not compatible. Not that there's any reason for me to upgrade. On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 11:16 AM Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > > Hmmm ... apparently because Microsoft wants to "add better security". Thus > the need for the TPM

Re: [Framers] Windows 11 compatibility?

2021-09-29 Thread Robert Lauriston
Interesting that Windows 11 has such steep CPU requirements. That's not something I look for in an operating system. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at

Re: [Framers] New Adobe Profiles - Business, Personal

2021-09-24 Thread Robert Lauriston
Adobe treats its Creative Cloud customers (InDesign / Photoshop / Illustrator / Type / etc.) much better than its TCS (FrameMaker / RoboHelp) / Captivate) customers. On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 7:19 AM Steve Rickaby wrote: > ... Sometimes I think Adobe hates its customers ...

Re: [Framers] OT: Software store

2021-09-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
It's Windows-only, right? How about the Microsoft Store? On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 5:39 AM wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Off topic question here, but my online store vendor is dropping me because > of lower volume. Any recommendations for a new vendor would be appreciated. > It needs to be a place

Re: [Framers] Importing table formats into chapters in a book

2021-09-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
What if you use the regular FrameMaker Import > Formats and select only table formats? On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 3:26 PM wrote: > > ... selected all the chapters in the book that > which I want to import the tables (I did not select Chapter 1), and then > using Rick's awesome Import Formats

Re: [Framers] Importing InDesign IDML into two tools. Was RE: FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-20 Thread Robert Lauriston
https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/kb/supported-file-formats-indesign-cs5.html#main_Export On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 6:49 PM Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > > Robert, my son checked and could not find an Export or Save As capability for > RTF in InDesign. Do you, or anyone else, know if this is

Re: [Framers] Importing InDesign IDML into two tools. Was RE: FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-19 Thread Robert Lauriston
Did you try exporting from InDesign as RTF? Even if they're not using the same library, such as https://github.com/jorisros/IDMLlib , other applications will inevitably have trouble reading IDM if they can't do everything that InDesign can. On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 2:12 PM Syed Zaeem Hosain

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-17 Thread Robert Lauriston
page layout program, Affinity? > > > On 12-Aug-21 10:47 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > > If you don't need a help authoring tool, don't buy Flare. Flare's > expensive because it takes a lot of development to keep up with > customers' evolving requirements. > > If you nee

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
rouble-free. > > Flare prices remind me of FM-UNIX prices of the 1990s. > > Affinity offers ten-day free trials. > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 7:42 PM Robert Lauriston > wrote: > > > Ten years ago I found that Flare did an excellent job of > > "round-trippin

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
Ten years ago I found that Flare did an excellent job of "round-tripping" a FrameMaker book. There was one minor thing that got lost, they might have fixed that since. The book in question was very clean, absolutely consistent formatting with short, minimalist sets of paragraph and character tags

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
I still use Adobe Acrobat Standard 8 on my current computer, which is running 64-bit Windows 10. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-10 Thread Robert Lauriston
MadCap Flare does a great job of importing FrameMaker files. I'm not a big fan of it since it's installed single-user Windows software, but it's a very powerful tool that can do almost everything FrameMaker can, usually better, and a lot more besides. If you use FrameMaker only for page layout,

Re: [Framers] Is this your final answer to equations?

2021-08-09 Thread Robert Lauriston
Do you have to create / maintain the equations with Word's equation editor? How about using a third-party converter? https://www.grindeq.com/ Is this relevant? https://docs.wiris.com/en/mathtype/office_tools/support_notices/tn103 ___ This message is

Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF

2021-08-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
Sounds like you don't have High Quality Print selected in the PDF settings. https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2015/using/using-framemaker-2015/frm_generating_output/Configure_PDF_settings-.htm On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 3:32 PM wrote: > > ... I then import the image into Framemaker by >

Re: [Framers] FM10 templates

2021-08-04 Thread Robert Lauriston
My http://lauriston.com/fm10_link_to_rh9.zip is for FrameMaker 10. Just ignore the RoboHelp part. Not a newsletter layout but you could modify it pretty easily. Or try LibreOffice Writer. On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 9:37 AM Ken Poshedly wrote: > > Hey gang, > I'm now doing a company newsletter

Re: [Framers] Problems with cut off equations

2021-05-25 Thread Robert Lauriston
That's a bug. Have you contacted WebWorks support? When you see the problem on one computer and not on another, are they running the same versions of the same operating system and web browser? If not, it could be browser-specific, or browser-version-specific. But again that's a bug. On Tue, May

Re: [Framers] Windows 10 cursors and Adobe products

2021-04-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
Or not so obviously, given this thread. On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:38 PM Reng Winfried wrote: > > Hi Robert, > > Yes. This was correct for old versions. > However, with FM 2019 (as far as I recall) FM was updated, > so that it observes settings like scaling for your monitor, etc. > And obviously

Re: [Framers] Windows 10 cursors and Adobe products

2021-04-26 Thread Robert Lauriston
FrameMaker isn't a normal Windows application. Since FM9 it has used a proprietary UI layer instead. On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 12:59 AM Simon BUCH wrote: > > Hello, > > Windows 10 allows for mouse cursor pointers to be customised, and so I > when I give training course, I like to use a larger

Re: [Framers] OT: But following on from the "Processing Time" Discussion

2021-04-08 Thread Robert Lauriston
For years I've been buying Optiplex desktops through Dell Outlet for Work. This morning there's a certified refurbished Optiplex 7080 for $1,234 USD, which includes a three-year warranty with onsite service. - Intel Core 10th Generation i7-10700 Processor (8 Core, Up to 4.80GHz, 16MB Cache,

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
FrameMaker 7 was the most reliable version I used, both on Mac and PC. I never owned FM8 but Jeremy Griffith of MIF2Go stuck with it as his primary testing version. FM9 was the release where Adobe added the super-buggy presentation layer on top of the legacy code, which was a weird choice since

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
If you have an Intel CPU with Turbo Boost, make sure it isn't disabled in the BIOS. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
Don't spend money upgrading any of the hardware without using Task Manager to see where the bottleneck is. On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 2:53 PM Art Campbell wrote: > > Your machine is kind of light weight for intensive publishing. I'd > definitely try to boost the RAM. ...

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-05 Thread Robert Lauriston
Use the Task Manager's Performance tab to see what the bottleneck is. Is CPU, memory, or disk at or close to 100%? On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 8:46 AM Sparky Anderson wrote: > > Whenever I publish to HTML or save to PDF, FrameMaker takes longer than I'd > like. Waiting on Frame to finish processing

Re: [Framers] Adobe Framemaker License Inquiry

2021-02-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
https://www.cdw.com/search/?key=framemaker%202019 On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 9:01 AM wrote: > > Based on client needs and how I intend to keep my business going for about 2 > more years, I need to upgrade my Framemaker version; however, the for client > matching and other reasons, the subscription

Re: [Framers] OT: HelpSmith?

2021-02-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
CHM has been for all practical purposes supplanted by various proprietary flavors of web help, but it's still useful as an interchange format since it's a standard. On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 11:59 AM wrote: > > Mein Gott! What does it TAKE to kill off bloody CHM format?!! > > -Original

Re: [Framers] OT: HelpSmith?

2021-02-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
HelpSmith can publish to CHM and Word, which are formats a lot of other authoring tools can import. On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 5:26 AM Steve Rickaby wrote: > > >... My > >reservation about this sort of tool at the time was that you are tied into > >the tool for your source ...

Re: [Framers] Framemaker licensing and channel publishing questions

2021-02-19 Thread Robert Lauriston
One alternative to upgrading would be to get an older copy of RoboHelp of the same vintage as your copy of FrameMaker and link your FM projects to RH. Then you can publish to PDF with FM and to web help or whatever with RH. http://lauriston.com/fm10_link_to_rh9.zip Another alternative is

Re: [Framers] Framemaker licensing and channel publishing questions

2021-02-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
You get upgrades and updates so long as you subscribe. There's tech support by phone, chat, or email, for what it's worth. Multi-channel publishing to HTML5 etc. is via a subset of RoboHelp features, similar to the way publishing to PDF is a subset of Acrobat Pro features. It's not as

Re: [Framers] Using vector images in Frame

2020-12-14 Thread Robert Lauriston
PNG is a raster format. It can't contain vector image data. (Adobe Fireworks used the PNG extension but included a lot of incompatible stuff.) Most vector file formats can also contain bitmaps. It used to be common that users didn't understand why EPS images looked terrible in FrameMaker, where

Re: [Framers] OT: Amalgamation of Pubs and Marcom

2020-12-08 Thread Robert Lauriston
"Content Manager" is common when the roles are blurred. On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:31 AM cuc tu wrote: > > Hi All, > > Looking for insight into this trend. In my company, Pubs has generally > reported to Marketing, historically a Director. The years have dwindled the > organization and Pubs now

Re: [Framers] Oh for the Good Old Days

2020-10-28 Thread Robert Lauriston
That's correct. The bizarre, broken UI was introduced in FM9. On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 4:21 PM Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > > I would also add that if you don't need the Unicode support for _some_ reason > (albeit doubtful in this day and age), then I liked the old UI in FM 7.2 as > being easier

[Framers] Phishing email

2020-10-09 Thread Robert Lauriston
The message I found in my spam folder today was not actually sent from Ken's email box. It just had a subject line "documents from Ken Poshedly." The "from" name and address were some unknown person. Anyone whose spam filter did not flag that message should change their email client or security

Re: [Framers] Oh for the Good Old Days

2020-10-05 Thread Robert Lauriston
The late OmniHelp developer Jeremy H. Griffith also thought FM8 was the classic. On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > It seems like most software programs have a "golden version" before feature > bloat or performance decline. For me, FrameMaker 8 was that version. Good > performance,

Re: [Framers] free vintage books

2020-09-24 Thread Robert Lauriston
i > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:00 PM Robert Lauriston > wrote: > > > You sent it as if I were selling you something, PayPal wants to take a > cut. > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 6:10 PM Roberta Hennessey > > > wrote: > > > > > I

Re: [Framers] free vintage books

2020-09-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
gt; > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 8:50 PM Robert Lauriston > wrote: > > > If you're in the US, media mail postage would be $4.92. You could send > that > > to me by Zelle, (Square) Cash, or PayPal. > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:31 PM Roberta Hennessey > &g

Re: [Framers] free vintage books

2020-09-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
de (Peachpit) > How shall we arrange the transfer if no one else is interested? > Bobbi Hennessey > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 8:15 PM Robert Lauriston > wrote: > > > Purging my bookshelf, free to a good home: > > > >- FrameMaker 5.5 Classroom in a

[Framers] free vintage books

2020-09-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
Purging my bookshelf, free to a good home: - FrameMaker 5.5 Classroom in a Book with CD-ROM - FrameMaker 5.5 User Guide - FrameMaker 6.0 User Guide - FrameMaker 7 Visual Quickstart Guide (Peachpit) ___ This message is from the Framers

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 15

2020-09-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
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Re: [Framers] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based

2020-08-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
The price is $360 a year. Wasn't the perpetual license $1000 including one year of support, then $500 per year for continued support? Learning resources, FrameMaker Classroom in a Book is good. It hasn't been updated since version 11, but the basics haven't changed.

Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] ToolTips from Frame>>Publish>>HTML5

2020-08-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
Vincent and > a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 3:44 PM Robert Lauriston > wr

Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] ToolTips from Frame>>Publish>>HTML5

2020-08-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
Does the glossary definition exist? Is the marker term correct? Have you tried different browsers? If yes to all three, I'd call support.

Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person

2020-06-17 Thread Robert Lauriston
I'm pretty sure FrameMaker 3.0 will work only with legacy fonts. If you like NextStep, you ought to like OS X / MacOS. It's a direct descendant and quite recognizable as such. Lots of scorewriter / music notation software. My main problem with NextStep is that I had to use the mouse for

Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person

2020-06-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
There was an external SCSI CD-ROM drive later on. http://www.kevra.org/TheBestOfNext/NeXTProducts/NeXTHardware/ExternalCD-ROM-Drive/files/page624_2.pdf On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:01 PM Fred Ridder wrote: > > Actually, the original NeXT computer was designed before CD-ROM was > standardized. The

Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person

2020-06-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
spopoulos was part of that crew), I recall that most of the > documentation was included on the delivery media (for NeXT, that would > have been a CD). Unfortunately, I don't have (that I know of), a copy > any more. As Robert Lauriston notes, that documentation should be in the > FrameMak

Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person

2020-06-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
I wrote software reviews for Nextworld back in those days, and I don't recall any printed documentation. The documentation for the operating system, FrameMaker, etc. was all on disk. If you rummage around in the FrameMaker directories, you should find it somewhere. Next's own docs are online:

Re: [Framers] No thesaurus found in FM-15

2020-05-04 Thread Robert Lauriston
Maybe uninstall FrameMaker, delete any remaining x86 files, and reinstall the 64-bit version. On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 8:25 AM Klaus Daube wrote: > > I installed FM-15.0.5.838 on the Wind10 machine of my wife - which is a plain > vanilla > installation - and the problem I have on my machine does

Re: [Framers] Mif2Go

2020-04-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
At my last job I used it for one particular single-sourcing target (FM > MIF2Go > Word > "text with layout"). Wouldn't surprise me if they were still using it. On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 5:02 AM K Grace wrote: > > Does anyone still use Mif2Go or am I dating myself?

Re: [Framers] Grammar question

2020-04-21 Thread Robert Lauriston
I follow the Chicago Manual of Style guidelines, which say go by how it's pronounced. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 8:26 AM Doug wrote: > > MCN is an abbreviation for Multi-Channel Network. When referring to only > one of them, which of the following do you use: > > a MCN > an MCN

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-10 Thread Robert Lauriston
To the contrary, I think pretty much everyone is trying to move off legacy mainframe systems. It's a booming business. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=migrate+cobol+to+the+cloud On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 9:55 AM Lin Sims wrote: > > Because they still work, they're reliable, and

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-10 Thread Robert Lauriston
In related news: "Literally, we have systems that are 40-plus-years-old," New Jersey Gov. > Murphy said over the weekend. "There'll be lots of postmortems and one of > them on our list will be how did we get here where we literally needed > COBOL programmers?" >

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
In the late 70s and 80s I made my living typing, mostly at law firms, so I saw the whole evolution firsthand. When I started it was typewriters with carbon paper and Wite-Out. Then came IBM Correcting Selectric ball typewriters and Xerox machines, then IBM Mag Card or occasionally the MT/ST tape

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
I used FullWrite on an SE/30 in the late 80s. I think it was my preferred word processor for a while. On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:05 PM Peter Gold wrote: > > ... As to nostalgia for lost technologies, Ashton-Tate bought Mac-based > FullWrite Professional, probably one of the only real competitors

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
I'm not sure how nostalgia figures into that. What most programs call paragraph styles and character styles, unstructured FrameMaker calls paragraph tags and character tags. https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2019/using/using-framemaker-2019/frm_page_layout_pl-styles.html On Thu, Apr 2,

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-01 Thread Robert Lauriston
I believe the first time I used FrameMaker it was version 2.0 on a Next cube. On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:53 PM Peter Gold wrote: > > Some of us are old enough to remember using Escape-key sequences with FM 3 > on Unix, Mac, and Windows. Do we win anything other than being grateful > that our

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-01 Thread Robert Lauriston
If you increased the text size in the Display control panel to something higher than the default 100%, FrameMaker doesn't know how to adjust the book window for the larger size. On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:16 PM Jerilynne Knight wrote: > > I did putz and fiddle with some of display settings and

Re: [Framers] Questions re upgrading Frame from 7.1

2020-03-31 Thread Robert Lauriston
I second the recommendation of installing 2019 on a non-production machine. The weird, nonstandard UI introduced in FM9 takes some getting used to, to put it kindly. It would probably be a good idea to evaluate InDesign as well. That's the standard for publishing.

Re: [Framers] Best way to import/add select paragraph formats?

2020-03-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
From an old job, this is the documented procedure for creating a new book. This is probably overkill for your question but it covers the TOC issue. 1. In Perforce, do a Get Latest Revision on the Shared directory. 2. Create an appropriate directory (e.g. Install or OnlineHelp) under the

Re: [Framers] uninstall trial version

2020-03-14 Thread Robert Lauriston
Glad that worked for you. Could be it had to re-download the whole installer to get the uninstaller component. On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 3:32 PM Karen Robbins wrote: > > Thank you, Robert Lauriston! > > At first, Windows wouldn't cooperate because it thought there wasn't en

Re: [Framers] Acrobat glitches

2020-03-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
Adobe Reader installation presumably changed that. Firefox's expected behavior may be to allow that. On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:58 PM Ken Poshedly wrote: > > Mine is a Windows 10 system and I use Firefox as my browser. And no, I did > not change any browser or other settings. After seeing

Re: [Framers] Acrobat glitches

2020-03-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
Which applications open which files is a browser setting. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at

Re: [Framers] uninstall trial version

2020-03-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
Is there an entry for FrameMaker in the Add/Remove Programs control panel? If so, try to uninstall using that. On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 3:54 PM Karen Robbins wrote: > > After my IT folks botched it, I must uninstall the trial version of FM2019 > without damaging the still-functional FMv11 that

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