OT: Heading levels in a UG

Hi All I have an off-topic question that may or may not interest you. We are having a discussion at the office regarding the maximum levels of heading that a User guide/User manual can/should contain. Do you know of any best practice rules that define how deep a publication should/could be.

RE: Soliciting hardware recommendations

Hi, If you get an Intel Core 2 Duo (or Core 2 Quad) system, running at 2.6GHz or higher, with 4GB of DDR2 RAM and 7200rpm drives (RAID 0 might be a bit of overkill but easy enough to do), Windows Vista Business 64-bit, and something like an nVidia 9600GT card or better, you will have

RE: Soliciting hardware recommendations

FrameMaker certainly does run on Vista 64-bit and runs exceptionally well! I ran FrameMaker 8 and now FrameMaker 9 in that environment without any problem whatsoever. What is true is that FrameMaker is a 32-bit application. Vista 64-bit runs 32-bit applications without a problem in 32-bit mode.

Re: OT: Heading levels in a UG

I think that a UG should not have more than 4 heading levels. More the heading levels, more the user will be forced to scroll up and down or click the expand all/collapse all button if it is going to be converted into online format.   Your smile

Re: Automated way to import formats?

The Clean Import plugin does everything you want to do, and it works at the book or file level. Highly recommended. at www.electropubs.com/ Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard

Re: OT: Heading levels in a UG

I agree, four is as many as you need (and, I believe the most I've ever seen in a published book) -- if you think you need more, it may be because of an organizational problem. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52

Re: AcroPro 9.0 FM 7.2 - Do they behave well ?

You may just be able to uninstall/reinstall Acrobat 7 and get the menu back. It's a chronological time of install thing. Joel On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Surbhi Singhal surb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Fred One thing, which i encountered was that with Adobe Pro 7.0 and Office 2007, the

Re: What is the optimum way to generate PDF?

Uh, why do you think you need to print to a PS file and distill manually? If you print to a PDF printer instance, it performs the exact same procedure, but does it transparently and automatically. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this

Re: OT: Heading levels in a UG

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Evanth, Henrikhenrik.eva...@sonyericsson.com wrote: Hi All I have an off-topic question that may or may not interest you. We are having a discussion at the office regarding the maximum levels of heading that a User guide/User manual can/should contain. Do

Re: Frame x-refs that wrap and work fine do not work in PDF

We are on win XP with Frame 8 and Acrobat 8. Paul On Dé Máirt14 Iúil 2009, at 14:10, Lizak, Samantha wrote: Versions may matter... We have some heavy-duty scripting in place that converts Frame to PDF, but I recall 4 or 5 years ago we used to still have to check every hotspot that wrapped

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Re: OT: Heading levels in a UG

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Lin Simsljsims...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Evanth, Henrikhenrik.eva...@sonyericsson.com wrote: Hi All I have an off-topic question that may or may not interest you. We are having a discussion at the office regarding the maximum

Re: Frame x-refs that wrap and work fine do not work in PDF

Paul, You wrote: I am just after noticing that, in my PDFs, links that wrap and go to a second line are not active in the part of the link that is on the second line. The start of the link, on the first line, works fine. All x-refs that wrap in Frame work fine in Frame. I never saw this

Re: OT: Heading levels in a UG

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Peter Goldpe...@knowhowpro.com wrote: I guess Tufte didn't verbally indicate * and G with his comment. His methods of providing multiple layers of information - sparklines, common measurement references across graphics that vary in scale, and various graphic

Re: Heading levels in a UG

Personally I think that 6 levels is too deep for a user, but that is just a personal preference that I cannot back up with evidence. I agree. I've read more than once that one should try to stay within three levels of headings (not counting book or chapter titles). In the Chicago Manual of

RE: Soliciting hardware recommendations

If you get an Intel Core 2 Duo (or Core 2 Quad) system, running at 2.6GHz or higher, with 4GB of DDR2 RAM and 7200rpm drives (RAID 0 might be a bit of overkill but easy enough to do), Windows Vista Business 64-bit, and something like an nVidia 9600GT card or better, you will have *more*

RE: Heading levels in a UG

I use a maximum of 4 ... anything more, and the heading numbering scheme gets quite clumsy and distracts from the content. Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Evanth, Henrik Sent: Wednesday, July 15,

RE: Heading levels in a UG

It also looks weird when the font size for the heading is smaller than the font size for the body text. =D Nadine --- On Wed, 7/15/09, syed.hos...@aeris.net syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: From: syed.hos...@aeris.net syed.hos...@aeris.net Subject: RE: Heading levels in a UG To: Evanth, Henrik

FM 7.0 and Acrobat 9

We are still using FrameMaker 7.0. My co-worker was upgraded from Acrobat 6 to 9 and she has no trouble using print to PDF. Clint Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace Electronics | Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113 -Original Message- From:

RE: FM 7.0 and Acrobat 9

Umm, the discussion is not about print to PDF, which is actually the method that several of us have been recommending all along. The discussion has been about _Save As_ PDF, which requires a *lot* more awareness and cooperation between FrameMaker and Distiller. Garnier has some scripted

Re: Customer Support in Adobe is non-existent

Garnier Garnier wrote: Hello Framers, Indeed sad to note that Adobe does not bother to resolve customer issues. We have licensed version of Acrobat Pro 9.0 and our IT has filed a case ticket as per the vendor/customer policy. Its over 10 days now but Adobe has not responded yet. I am

Re: Heading levels in a UG

You can avoid that by starting your chapter titles at 72pt and slowly decrease from there. ;) On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Writergeneric...@yahoo.ca wrote: It also looks weird when the font size for the heading is smaller than the font size for the body text. =D -- Bill Swallow

RE: Heading levels in a UG

Hi Framers, In general if your heading levels descend below three or four in user documentation, you need to take a step back, analyze, and rebalance. Nothing new here, just the old axiom be nice to your user... You can apply the same principle to the navigation over enterprise websites.

RE: What is the optimum way to generate PDF?

Garnier Garnier wrote: I would like to know as to what is the optimum way to generate PDF (300+ FM books with 700 pages (average) each? Many have pointed out that Save As PDF is not the ideal way of converting to pdf. I have automated the process using Framescript. Now I do not have the

RE: OT: Heading levels in a UG

I agree with Neeraj. Several years ago when I was working at HP, we did some usability studies (HP is heavy into usability) and we found that most docs and users could actually get along with just three heading levels. But we used four levels because there were often small topics that needed

RE: What is the optimum way to generate PDF?

I use .bat files and runfm.exe to produce postscript files from FrameMaker, drop them into a watched folder, then a .bat file opens Distiller, creating PDFs. Other .bat files copy the finished PDFs to the product build pickup directory and to other interested parties...and includes an archive copy

Re: What is the optimum way to generate PDF?

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:43:50 -0500, Kelly McDaniel kmcdan...@pavtech.com wrote: I use .bat files and runfm.exe to produce postscript files from FrameMaker, drop them into a watched folder, then a .bat file opens Distiller, creating PDFs. Other .bat files copy the finished PDFs to the product

Re: Heading levels in a UG

You can avoid that by starting your chapter titles at 72pt and slowly decrease from there. ;) Heading1 72 pt. Heading 2 71 pt. Heading 370 pt. etc. : ) Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as

RE: Heading levels in a UG

Ah! 72 levels of headings are quite possible then. . . . I kid, I kid! :) Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:24 PM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: Heading

RE: Heading levels in a UG

Henrik: I think you only get stuck counting levels if you fail to write in topics. If you create a topic (think of a magazine article) then you'll probably only ever need to divide that material into one or two levels. I think of H1 as being a topic title wherever it goes. It never gets

Re: Automated way to import formats? YES!

The fmbatch command supplied with Unix Frame can do it (and much else). Here's an example command file that tells fmbatch to import variables (v option) to all files in a book: Open DevGuide.bkt Open variables.fm ImportFormats v DevGuide.fmt variables.fm Save DevGuide.bkt Quit DevGuide.bkt Quit

THANK YOU RE: NT: Updating the path

Alan, Thanks for making this easy. With a little careful planning, everything is working again. Sue From: Alan T Litchfield [mailto:a...@alphabyte.co.nz] Sent: Tue 7/14/2009 3:04 PM To: Susan Curtzwiler Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: NT:

NT: Updating the path

Sue, On 15/07/2009, at 6:49 AM, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > I need to move a folder of images and a FMKR file to the same > location as the rest of my book. > > Could someone pleas point me in the right direction for some self > study of how to do this and not risk loosing my current path to

Customer Support in Adobe is non-existent

Hello Framers, ? Indeed sad to note that Adobe does not bother to resolve customer issues. We have licensed version of Acrobat Pro 9.0 and our IT has filed a case ticket as per the vendor/customer policy. Its over 10 days now but Adobe has not responded yet. I am still not able to use FM 7.0?s

AcroPro 9.0 & FM 7.2 - Do they behave well ?

Hello Framers I have recently switched to Office 2007, which i believe, does not support Acrobat Professional 7.0. I downloaded an AcroPro v 9.0 trial version, which seems to mingle well with Office 2007. Apart from Office 2007, I am an exhaustive user of FM 7.2 also. Now, i have two queries:

Automated way to import formats?

Assuming that you are using FrameMaker 6.0 or later, you can import the variables and conditional text settings (or any other set of formatting properties) from a template or settings file into all the component files in a book in a single operation. Just select all the files in the book

AcroPro 9.0 & FM 7.2 - Do they behave well ?

Our corporate IT people circulated the same rumor about some incompatibility between Acrobat 7.0 and Office 2007 when they were preparing to roll out the MS suite to the whole corporation (>10K users). I was using Acrobat 7.0 at the time and I saw no incompatibility or other issues on my

What is the optimum way to generate PDF?

Hello Framers, ? I would like to know as to what is the optimum way to generate PDF (300+ FM books with 700 pages (average) each? Many have pointed out that Save As PDF is not the ideal way of converting to pdf. I have automated the process using Framescript. Now I do not have the time to

Customer Support in Adobe is non-existent

? If that is the case, I would like to know how come FM 7.0p576 is working absolutely fine with Acrobat Pro 8.0? The Save As PDF works fine and so does the script that all writers use to convert to pdf. All works fine even without changing the locations of pdf printer instance or the

AcroPro 9.0 & FM 7.2 - Do they behave well ?

Hello Fred One thing, which i encountered was that with Adobe Pro 7.0 and Office 2007, the "Adobe PDF" menu that was appearing in office applications, ceased to exist. The menu was available with Adobe Pro 7.0 and Office 2003. Could you please comment on the same. Regards Surbhi On Wed, Jul

AcroPro 9.0 & FM 7.2 - Do they behave well ?

I seldom (if ever) used that menu in Office apps, so if it went away I had no reason to miss it. -Fred Ridder Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:09:01 +0530 Subject: Re: AcroPro 9.0 & FM 7.2 - Do they behave well ? From: surb...@gmail.com To: docudoc at hotmail.com CC: ankur.1978 at gmail.com;

OT: Heading levels in a UG

Hi All I have an off-topic question that may or may not interest you. We are having a discussion at the office regarding the maximum levels of heading that a User guide/User manual can/should contain. Do you know of any best practice rules that define how deep a publication should/could be.

Soliciting hardware recommendations

Hi, > If you get an Intel Core 2 Duo (or Core 2 Quad) system, running at > 2.6GHz or higher, with 4GB of DDR2 RAM and 7200rpm drives > (RAID 0 might > be a bit of overkill but easy enough to do), Windows Vista Business > 64-bit, and something like an nVidia 9600GT card or better, you will > have

Soliciting hardware recommendations

FrameMaker certainly does run on Vista 64-bit and runs exceptionally well! I ran FrameMaker 8 and now FrameMaker 9 in that environment without any problem whatsoever. What is true is that FrameMaker is a 32-bit application. Vista 64-bit runs 32-bit applications without a problem in 32-bit mode.

OT: Heading levels in a UG

I think that a UG should not have more than 4 heading levels. More the?heading levels, more the user will be forced to scroll up and down or click the expand all/collapse all button if it is going to be converted into online format. ? Your smile

Automated way to import formats?

The Clean Import plugin does everything you want to do, and it works at the book or file level. Highly recommended. at www.electropubs.com/ Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." --

OT: Heading levels in a UG

I agree, four is as many as you need (and, I believe the most I've ever seen in a published book) -- if you think you need more, it may be because of an organizational problem. Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52

AcroPro 9.0 & FM 7.2 - Do they behave well ?

You may just be able to uninstall/reinstall Acrobat 7 and get the menu back. It's a chronological time of install thing. Joel On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Surbhi Singhal wrote: > Hello Fred > One thing, which i encountered was that with Adobe Pro 7.0 and Office 2007, > the "Adobe PDF" menu

What is the optimum way to generate PDF?

Uh, why do you think you need to print to a PS file and distill manually? If you print to a PDF printer instance, it performs the exact same procedure, but does it transparently and automatically. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in

OT: Heading levels in a UG

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Evanth, Henrik wrote: > Hi All > > I have an off-topic question that may or may not interest you. > > We are having a discussion at the office regarding the maximum levels of > heading that a User guide/User manual can/should contain. Do you know of any > best

Frame x-refs that wrap and work fine do not work in PDF

We are on win XP with Frame 8 and Acrobat 8. Paul On D? M?irt14 I?il 2009, at 14:10, Lizak, Samantha wrote: > Versions may matter... We have some heavy-duty scripting in place > that converts Frame to PDF, but I recall 4 or 5 years ago we used > to still have to check every hotspot that wrapped

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OT: Heading levels in a UG

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Evanth, > Henrik wrote: >> Hi All >> >> I have an off-topic question that may or may not interest you. >> >> We are having a discussion at the office regarding the maximum levels of >> heading that a User

Frame x-refs that wrap and work fine do not work in PDF

Paul, You wrote: >I am just after noticing that, in my PDFs, links that wrap and go to a >second line are not active in the part of the link that is on the second line. >The start of the link, on the first line, works fine. >All x-refs that wrap in Frame work fine in Frame. >I never saw this

OT: Heading levels in a UG

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Peter Gold wrote: > I guess Tufte didn't verbally indicate "*" and "" with his comment. > His methods of providing multiple layers of information - sparklines, > common measurement references across graphics that vary in scale, and > various graphic schemes that

Heading levels in a UG

> Personally I think that 6 levels is too deep for a user, but that is just > a > personal preference that I cannot back up with "evidence". I agree. I've read more than once that one should try to stay within three levels of headings (not counting book or chapter titles). In the Chicago

Soliciting hardware recommendations

>> If you get an Intel Core 2 Duo (or Core 2 Quad) system, running at >> 2.6GHz or higher, with 4GB of DDR2 RAM and 7200rpm drives >> (RAID 0 might >> be a bit of overkill but easy enough to do), Windows Vista Business >> 64-bit, and something like an nVidia 9600GT card or better, you will >>

Heading levels in a UG

I use a maximum of 4 ... anything more, and the heading numbering scheme gets quite clumsy and distracts from the content. Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Evanth, Henrik Sent: Wednesday, July

Heading levels in a UG

It also looks weird when the font size for the heading is smaller than the font size for the body text. =D Nadine --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote: From: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net Subject: RE: Heading levels in a UG To: "Evanth, Henrik" , framers at

FM 7.0 and Acrobat 9

We are still using FrameMaker 7.0. My co-worker was upgraded from Acrobat 6 to 9 and she has no trouble using "print to PDF". Clint Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113 -Original Message- From:

FM 7.0 and Acrobat 9

Umm, the discussion is not about "print to PDF", which is actually the method that several of us have been recommending all along. The discussion has been about _Save As_ PDF, which requires a *lot* more awareness and cooperation between FrameMaker and Distiller. Garnier has some scripted

Customer Support in Adobe is non-existent

Garnier Garnier wrote: > Hello Framers, > > Indeed sad to note that Adobe does not bother to resolve customer issues. We > have licensed version of Acrobat Pro 9.0 and our IT has filed a case ticket > as per the vendor/customer policy. Its over 10 days now but Adobe has not > responded yet. I

Heading levels in a UG

You can avoid that by starting your chapter titles at 72pt and slowly decrease from there. ;) On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Writer wrote: > It also looks weird when the font size for the heading is smaller than the > font size for the body text. =D -- Bill Swallow Twitter: @techcommdood

Heading levels in a UG

Hi Framers, In general if your heading levels descend below three or four in user documentation, you need to take a step back, analyze, and rebalance. Nothing new here, just the old axiom "be nice to your user..." You can apply the same principle to the navigation over enterprise websites.

What is the optimum way to generate PDF?

Garnier Garnier wrote: > I would like to know as to what is the optimum way to generate PDF (300+ FM > books with 700 pages (average) each? Many have pointed out that Save As PDF > is not the ideal way of converting to pdf. I have automated the process using > Framescript. Now I do not have

OT: Heading levels in a UG

I agree with Neeraj. Several years ago when I was working at HP, we did some usability studies (HP is heavy into usability) and we found that most docs and users could actually get along with just three heading levels. But we used four levels because there were often small topics that needed

OT: Heading levels in a UG

If you require many sub-levels, it's usually an indication of either: * You are documenting a very poorly designed product or procedure, or * You are trying to group too much under one umbrella. -- Bill Swallow Twitter: @techcommdood Blog: http://techcommdood.com LinkedIn:

What is the optimum way to generate PDF?

I use .bat files and runfm.exe to produce postscript files from FrameMaker, drop them into a watched folder, then a .bat file opens Distiller, creating PDFs. Other .bat files copy the finished PDFs to the product build pickup directory and to other interested parties...and includes an archive copy

What is the optimum way to generate PDF?

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:43:50 -0500, "Kelly McDaniel" wrote: >I use .bat files and runfm.exe to produce postscript files from >FrameMaker, drop them into a watched folder, then a .bat file opens >Distiller, creating PDFs. Other .bat files copy the finished PDFs >to the product build pickup

Heading levels in a UG

> You can avoid that by starting your chapter titles at 72pt and slowly > decrease from there. ;) Heading1 72 pt. Heading 2 71 pt. Heading 370 pt. etc. : ) Mike Wickham

Heading levels in a UG

Ah! 72 levels of headings are quite possible then. . . . I kid, I kid! :) Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:24 PM To: Frame Users Subject: Re:

Heading levels in a UG

Henrik: I think you only get stuck counting levels if you fail to write in topics. If you create a topic (think of a magazine article) then you'll probably only ever need to divide that material into one or two levels. I think of H1 as being a topic title wherever it goes. It never gets

Automated way to import formats? YES!

The fmbatch command supplied with Unix Frame can do it (and much else). Here's an example command file that tells fmbatch to import variables (v option) to all files in a book: Open DevGuide.bkt Open variables.fm ImportFormats v DevGuide.fmt variables.fm Save DevGuide.bkt Quit DevGuide.bkt Quit

THANK YOU RE: NT: Updating the path

Alan, Thanks for making this easy. With a little careful planning, everything is working again. Sue From: Alan T Litchfield [mailto:a...@alphabyte.co.nz] Sent: Tue 7/14/2009 3:04 PM To: Susan Curtzwiler Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: NT: