Re: [Framers] Save as PDF - Do not rely on System Fonts

[Stephan Will]

Hi Orly,

as long as you are changing this setting from within FrameMaker (and I 
think this is what you are doing) the change is done only temporarily.


If you want to change the "Do not rely on system fonts" setting constantly 
you have to go to (hope my translation is correct as I am working with a 
german version): Start - Devices and Printers - right-click on Adobe PDF - 
Print Settings (not Printer Settings) - Tab Adobe PDF Settings - change 
settings as needed.


FM should not run at this time.

Now the problem with the flushed conversion process should not occur again 
(as long as the printer driver will not be re-installed).



About the embedding of your font.
For testing it would be a good idea to save the print-job to a PS-file to 
work with and distilling it manually.


1) Your distiller job options are set to embedd all fonts?
Got to your Distiller settings - Tab Fonts and see what is set to happen 
when the embedding fails.

If set to "Warn and go on" have a look at the Log of the distiller.

2) The Kelson family fonts licence allows embedding?
Got to your Distiller settings - Tab Fonts and have a look on the fonts list.
Is the kelson font family shown in a one of the lists?


Regards
Stephan


framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com schrieb am 11.04.2021 um 22:02:


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From: Orly Zimmerman 
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Subject: [Framers] Save as PDF - Do not rely on System Fonts
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HI All,
Allison's recent question - about the old SetPrint reminded me of a problem I 
currently have. I'm running FM2020 (from the Adobe Technical Suite) on a new HP 
EliteBook 84 G6 (Intel core i5-8265U @1.6GHz) with 8GB of 
installed RAM. No problems with processing times or open pod issues. FM works fine, 
thank goodness.

My problem:
I use Kelson family fonts for my cover/back pages. These fonts, for some 
reason, don't embed in the file.
When I quickly want to create a PDF, I'll use the "Save as PDF" File option.
Invariably, the PDF conversion process (via Distiller) gets flushed.
To solve the problem, I need to uncheck an option "Do not rely on system fonts" 
which can be found only in the Adobe Print settings.
And I need to reset this each time I restart FM.
Any ideas on how to avoid this slightly annoying problem.

Many thanks! And have a great week,
Orly


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Re: [Framers] Save as PDF - Do not rely on System Fonts

[tammyvb]

https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker/embedding-fonts-used-in-a-source-framemaker-file-in-the-final-pdf/m-p/11937528#M70160

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-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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Of tammyvb
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Save as PDF - Do not rely on System Fonts

You need to set a custom job options file that specifically embeds these fonts 
and use this file to create your pdf. When I get back to my office this 
afternoon, I will send a link to this topic in the adobe Framemaker forums that 
shows visually where and how to do this.HTH.Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: A Craig  Date: 4/11/21  
12:49 PM  (GMT-07:00) To: "'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker 
software.'"  Subject: Re: [Framers] Save as PDF - 
Do not rely on System Fonts I seem to recall having a custom joboptions file 
that I always selected forPDFs.I don't know how Adobe has changed Frame, but 
maybe this would work? -Original Message-From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Orly 
ZimmermanSent: April 11, 2021 12:19 AMTo: framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: 
[Framers] Save as PDF - Do not rely on System FontsHI All,Allison's recent 
question - about the old SetPrint reminded me of a problemI currently have. I'm 
running FM2020 (from the Adobe Technical Suite) on anew HP EliteBook 84 G6 
(Intel core i5-8265U @1.6GHz) with8GB of installed RAM. No 
problems with processing times or open pod issues.FM works fine, thank 
goodness.M
 y problem:I use Kelson family fonts for my cover/back pages. These fonts, for 
somereason, don't embed in the file.When I quickly want to create a PDF, I'll 
use the "Save as PDF" File option.Invariably, the PDF conversion process (via 
Distiller) gets flushed.To solve the problem, I need to uncheck an option "Do 
not rely on systemfonts" which can be found only in the Adobe Print 
settings.And I need to reset this each time I restart FM.Any ideas on how to 
avoid this slightly annoying problem.Many thanks! And have a great 
week,Orly>>Hi Alison,FrameMaker creates PDF files via Save As PDF with its 
own engine.>>The printer is not involved. This works very well.There can be 
requirements that you create the PDF via Distiller, but thisis also automated. 
You can still use Save As PDF.You do not need to print to a PostScript 
file.>>SetPrint cannot be installed (FM 2020 is 64 bit) and is not 
needed.>>There isn't any headless Distiller in FM 2020.Best 
regardsWinfriedOrly Zimme
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Re: [Framers] Save as PDF - Do not rely on System Fonts

[tammyvb]

You need to set a custom job options file that specifically embeds these fonts 
and use this file to create your pdf. When I get back to my office this 
afternoon, I will send a link to this topic in the adobe Framemaker forums that 
shows visually where and how to do this.HTH.Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: A Craig  Date: 4/11/21  
12:49 PM  (GMT-07:00) To: "'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker 
software.'"  Subject: Re: [Framers] Save as PDF - 
Do not rely on System Fonts I seem to recall having a custom joboptions file 
that I always selected forPDFs.I don't know how Adobe has changed Frame, but 
maybe this would work? -Original Message-From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Orly 
ZimmermanSent: April 11, 2021 12:19 AMTo: framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: 
[Framers] Save as PDF - Do not rely on System FontsHI All,Allison's recent 
question - about the old SetPrint reminded me of a problemI currently have. I'm 
running FM2020 (from the Adobe Technical Suite) on anew HP EliteBook 84 G6 
(Intel core i5-8265U @1.6GHz) with8GB of installed RAM. No 
problems with processing times or open pod issues.FM works fine, thank 
goodness.My problem:I use Kelson family fonts for my cover/back pages. These 
fonts, for somereason, don't embed in the file.When I quickly want to create a 
PDF, I'll use the "Save as PDF" File option.Invariably, the PDF conversion 
process (via Distiller) gets flushed.To solve the problem, I need to uncheck an 
option "Do not rely on systemfonts" which can be found only in the Adobe Print 
settings.And I need to reset this each time I restart FM.Any ideas on how to 
avoid this slightly annoying problem.Many thanks! And have a great 
week,Orly>>Hi Alison,FrameMaker creates PDF files via Save As PDF with its 
own engine.>>The printer is not involved. This works very well.There can be 
requirements that you create the PDF via Distiller, but thisis also automated. 
You can still use Save As PDF.You do not need to print to a PostScript 
file.>>SetPrint cannot be installed (FM 2020 is 64 bit) and is not 
needed.>>There isn't any headless Distiller in FM 2020.Best 
regardsWinfriedOrly ZimmermanTechnical 
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Re: [Framers] Save as PDF - Do not rely on System Fonts

[A Craig]

I seem to recall having a custom joboptions file that I always selected for
PDFs.

I don't know how Adobe has changed Frame, but maybe this would work? 



-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Orly Zimmerman
Sent: April 11, 2021 12:19 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Save as PDF - Do not rely on System Fonts

HI All,
Allison's recent question - about the old SetPrint reminded me of a problem
I currently have. I'm running FM2020 (from the Adobe Technical Suite) on a
new HP EliteBook 84 G6 (Intel core i5-8265U @1.6GHz) with
8GB of installed RAM. No problems with processing times or open pod issues.
FM works fine, thank goodness.

My problem:
I use Kelson family fonts for my cover/back pages. These fonts, for some
reason, don't embed in the file.
When I quickly want to create a PDF, I'll use the "Save as PDF" File option.
Invariably, the PDF conversion process (via Distiller) gets flushed.
To solve the problem, I need to uncheck an option "Do not rely on system
fonts" which can be found only in the Adobe Print settings.
And I need to reset this each time I restart FM.
Any ideas on how to avoid this slightly annoying problem.

Many thanks! And have a great week,
Orly




>>Hi Alison,

>>

>>FrameMaker creates PDF files via Save As PDF with its own engine.

>>The printer is not involved. This works very well.

>>

>>There can be requirements that you create the PDF via Distiller, but this
is also automated. You can still use Save As PDF.

>>

>>You do not need to print to a PostScript file.

>>SetPrint cannot be installed (FM 2020 is 64 bit) and is not needed.

>>There isn't any headless Distiller in FM 2020.

>>

>>Best regards

>>

>>Winfried




Orly Zimmerman
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